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Archaeologists Uncover A Russian "Stonehenge"
Novosti ^ | 11-12-2004 | Olga Sobolevskaya

Posted on 11/13/2004 4:25:38 PM PST by blam

2004-11-12 18:08

ARCHEOLOGISTS UNCOVER A RUSSIAN "STONEHENGE"

MOSCOW (RIA Novosti commentator Olga Sobolevskaya)--

Russia now has a Stonehenge of its own. In the summer, a 4,000-year-old megalithic structure was uncovered at a Spasskaya Luka site, in the central Russian region of Ryazan. This structure, which, archeologists believe, was built as a sanctuary, sits on a hill overlooking the confluence of the Oka and the Pron rivers. The surrounding area has always been seen as an "archeological encyclopedia," a kaleidoscope of cultures ranging from the Upper Paleolithic to the Dark Ages.

"If we look at this archeological site as represented on a map, it will be a circle seven meters in diameter, marked with pillars, half a meter thick and the same distance apart from each other," says the expedition leader Ilya Akhmedov, who works in the Moscow Historical Museum's Archeological Monuments Department. "Here's a large rectangular hole and a pillar in the center of the circle. The wooden pillars have not survived, of course, but the large holes from which they once stuck out can be seen pretty clearly. Along the edges of the site there are two more holes. Originally, there may have been four of them, but the bank over here is being destroyed by a ravine, so the temple has caved in partially."

Another hole with a pillar has been unearthed several meters east of the site. And there is also one to the south, which was discovered three years ago. "In all probability, there's a second row of pillars surrounding the shrine, a dozen meters away," Mr. Akhmedov says.

The two pillar pairs form a gateway, which, if looked through from the center, will provide a spectacular sunset view in the summertime. Another pillar, behind the circular fence, points to where the sun rises. The monument's structure has prompted scholars to advance a hypothesis about its astronomical purpose. The objects found here must have been designed with religious ritual in mind.

The size of the holes varies from 44x46cm to 75x56cm. A small ceramic vessel has been found in the central hole. It is finely decorated with zigzags, resembling sunrays, and with curly lines, which symbolize water. Archeologists specializing in the Bronze Period have recognized the artifact as dating back to "their age." Visually, it is reminiscent of objects produced by southern Eurasian tribes.

Fragments of long bones and teeth have been extracted from one of the holes outside the sanctuary. These are believed to be the remains of a sacrifice. But neither can we disregard the fact that the large holes were used for burial. A layer of organic decay has been discovered on the bottom of the central hole-archeologists put the decomposition of bones down to some peculiar properties of the local soils. The remains found here may well have belonged to a posthumously sanctified tribal chief.

Old sanctuaries are often located beside burial sites. This is attributable to pagans' view of death as the point of transition to the afterlife. In ancient folklore, not only the life of nature was seen as a cycle, but human life was, too. The solar and the lunar cults were related to the cult of fertility and to the mythological link between life and death. There are numerous tombs at Stonehenge and Avebury - Europe's most famous circular-shaped sanctuaries. The very idea of a circular structure goes back to ancient legends about the Creation. The circle - a magic geometrical shape with no beginning or end - was regarded as a symbol of eternity and infinity.

There is more than one cemetery at the Spassakya Luka site. Finno-Ugric tribes arrived here at some point during the period known as the Great Resettlement. Interestingly enough, not a single one of their tombs encroached upon the ancient observatory, a fact suggesting that they must have known about the structure's sacral significance.

The old Ryazan sanctuary is, indeed, a unique monument. Similar monuments have been found in southern Russian steppes and in the trans-Urals tundra, but these are not as representative and have few artifacts.

Sanctuaries with pillars began spreading across Europe at the end of the 1st millennium AD. Some examples have been excavated in the modern-day Czech Republic and Slovakia. "There can be no blood kinship between the ethnic groups who erected Stonehenge and the Ryazan observatory," Mr. Akhmedov contends. "The latter obviously points to some influence by migrant groups from the southeast of the Eurasian steppe."


TOPICS: News/Current Events; Russia
KEYWORDS: archaeologists; archaeology; ggg; godsgravesglyphs; history; okariver; pronyariver; russia; russian; ryazan; spasskayaluka; stonehenge; uncover
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To: MacDorcha
"Any speculations about the Picts?"

Related to the Scythians and/or Xiongnu?

21 posted on 11/16/2004 3:52:44 PM PST by blam
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To: MacDorcha

22 posted on 11/16/2004 4:07:31 PM PST by the invisib1e hand (if a man lives long enough, he gets to see the same thing over and over.)
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To: blam

read later


23 posted on 11/16/2004 4:09:14 PM PST by Sam Cree (Democrats are herd animals)
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To: LoneRangerMassachusetts

Thanks for the link- fascinating site.


24 posted on 11/16/2004 4:37:06 PM PST by visualops (Freedom is worth fighting for, dying for and standing for: the advance of freedom leads to peace-GWB)
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To: blam

From what I understand (limited IMO) I would venture to say the Scythians. It seems to reason that a people who could take 40 days to mourn a fallen tribesman, would have the free time to construct a shamanistic megalith.

That and when I say "Pictish" I myself assume the Scottish national pose... "Blondes from the North noted by the Caesars" leading me to think "Aryan" over "Mongol."

Again though, I feel my understanding is VERY basic on this level.


25 posted on 11/16/2004 7:10:14 PM PST by MacDorcha
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To: TXnMA; blam

This might be old to you, but a few months back I saw a show on History Channel. It showed how the Egyptians may have used kites to move their blocks and erect the oblisks at such great distances. The eventual conclusion was that a similar principle could have been used on the megaliths.

All one needs is a few people to keep the kites from running wild and enough rope with a support system to place the blocks with precision.


26 posted on 11/16/2004 7:23:02 PM PST by MacDorcha
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To: Chani

ping


27 posted on 11/16/2004 8:01:29 PM PST by Chani
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To: MacDorcha
One of the (many) problems with kites as prime movers, IMHO, is the requirement for huge amounts of extremely strong cables -- and organic fiber ropes won't fit the bill.

You owe it to yourseif -- if you haven't done so already -- to do as I did in my #13, above, and view all the movies on Wallington's "The Forgotten Technology" website.

28 posted on 11/16/2004 8:13:00 PM PST by TXnMA
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To: TXnMA

Oh yes, I saw those. Sheer genious. Wouldn't put it past the ancient peoples either. And given the resources, it would make more sense for the Aryan tribes to imploy his methods to make the megaliths.

And yes, they did come across that "problem."

They made/found adequate organic fibers to perform the tasks. The egyptians were a people who also sailed, they had the knowhow to produce such items.

They also sited the hyroglyphic images. On all the known images they found with simple wings (maybe with a head) the proportions were always the exact same used in making a level-flying kite.


29 posted on 11/16/2004 8:19:11 PM PST by MacDorcha
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To: MacDorcha

lol, "genious" spelling too, eh?

sigh...


30 posted on 11/16/2004 8:19:51 PM PST by MacDorcha
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To: blam

hmmm bump for later perusal.


31 posted on 11/16/2004 8:46:00 PM PST by soundbits
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