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FR | 4-1-05 | Bob J

Posted on 04/01/2005 9:51:33 PM PST by Bob J

For those of you who don’t know, Jim and the mods treat old timers a little different than newbies. They get a little more slack, a few more mulligans than those who signed up in last four years or so.

I always wondered if that was a good policy. After all, why should the crusty buggers be treated any differently than someone who signed up last week? Are they more intelligent, are their arguments more cohesive…persuasive? Do they have any more or less to contribute to this community we call the Free Republic? Not necessarily.

But they do have one thing new participants don’t and that is perspective. In a way us curmudgeons can help provide a sense of continuity and historical perspective to events that newcomers cannot. Sometimes, we are the glue the bridges Free Republic from one crisis to the next. I believe the recent Sciavo issue is one of those times so I am going to ante again and prove to Jim that his investment is worthy of it’s returns. I ask other old timers to chime in and pull their weight as well.

The Forum has a history of going through upheavels in terms of political philosophy and/or cultural standards, this is not unusual for a community such as outs. The first thing we need to understand is that the conservative movement is made up of many individuals with different motivations. For example, some are economic minded, some are culturally based, some are second amendment supporters and others view their vision on religious principles. Sometimes these differences can cause us to reevaluate our alliances. But that would be a mistake. The left is counting on us tearing ourselves apart from within for that is the very philosophy upon which their strategy is based…foment division and hatred then attack at the breach. It has worked well for them in the past and they count on it working again for them now and in the future.

My humble opinion and suggestion to all is in these times of contention and confusion, that we remind ourselves who the real enemy is and where the battles ought to be fought. On more than one occasion I have had firefights on FR with individuals who later I found myself sitting next to in a foxhole when we were fighting the real enemy…the militant left. I berated myself for some of the things I had posted and wished I could take them back. For here was my true brother or sister, sitting in the foxhole with me, taking hits with me, helping to lead the bravest charge at our direst moment. How could I have been so thoughtless in my moment of indulgence?

We may divided, on occasion, but let’s not lose sight of the fact that we are all brothers and sisters fighting the good fight against those who would enslave us and our children into bondage for generations. Argue the good argument, stand on principle, but let’s not forget we are all ultimately on the same team. The man or woman you trash today might be the brave soul who saves your behind tomorrow.

Let’s keep out eye on the ball.


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1 posted on 04/01/2005 9:51:33 PM PST by Bob J
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To: Bob J
The left is counting on us tearing ourselves apart from within for that is the very philosophy upon which their strategy is based…foment division and hatred then attack at the breach. It has worked well for them in the past and they count on it working again for them now and in the future.

Well said Bob.

2 posted on 04/01/2005 9:54:42 PM PST by ClintonBeGone (In politics, sometimes it's OK for even a Wolverine to root for a Buckeye win.)
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To: Bob J

Amen...


3 posted on 04/01/2005 9:55:05 PM PST by Stellar Dendrite (a PROUD member of the "Blame the MSM first" crowd!!!!!)
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To: Bob J
we are all brothers and sisters fighting the good fight against those who would enslave us and our children into bondage for generations

I believe a sifting out has come, however, over the issue of life. There are a sizable minority apparently doggedly wedded to the idea of "life unworthy of life."

There's no way a sane soul can fail to see that this leads to an enslavement to forces far worse than mere political oppression.

4 posted on 04/01/2005 9:55:25 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (No wonder the Southern Baptist Church threw Greer out: Only one god per church! [Ann Coulter])
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To: Bob J

That sounds like newbie talk to me, Bob.

In all seriousness, I think you make a good point that bears repeating every once in a while. It's easy for those of us here to lose sight of the real enemy while we debate our petty differences. Those differences are worth debating, but in the end we cannot forget that we are all on the same side.


5 posted on 04/01/2005 9:58:13 PM PST by MWS (Errare humanum est, in errore perservare stultum.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

I honestly think most of those espousing those views are disrupters.

I don't see how anyone could be a conservative and not value life. To me that is part of the definition of a conservative.


6 posted on 04/01/2005 9:58:22 PM PST by OH Swing Voter
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To: Bob J

I hope others will read this and consider what you've said.


7 posted on 04/01/2005 9:58:51 PM PST by zlala (I used to have a handle on life but it broke.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

Then refine your argument and convince them. If you cannot move sentimets here on FR, what chance do you have against the legion spurged out every year by our socialist education system?


8 posted on 04/01/2005 9:58:56 PM PST by Bob J (RIGHTALK.com...a conservative alternative to NPR!)
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To: Bob J

amen


9 posted on 04/01/2005 9:59:23 PM PST by fooman (Get real with Kim Jung Mentally Ill about proliferation)
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To: Bob J

You are right on the money as usual! Thank you.


10 posted on 04/01/2005 9:59:55 PM PST by Rabid Dog (Make a difference in your community - Join your local Free Republic Chapter!)
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To: Bob J
Thank you for your great essay!

We may divided, on occasion, but let’s not lose sight of the fact that we are all brothers and sisters fighting the good fight against those who would enslave us and our children into bondage for generations. Argue the good argument, stand on principle, but let’s not forget we are all ultimately on the same team. The man or woman you trash today might be the brave soul who saves your behind tomorrow.

Let’s keep out eye on the ball.

Indeed. Count me in!

No surrender. No retreat. Remember the Alamo!


11 posted on 04/01/2005 10:00:40 PM PST by Alamo-Girl (Please donate monthly to Free Republic!)
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To: ClintonBeGone
In politics, sometimes it's OK for even a Wolverine to root for a Buckeye win.

traitor lmao

Hail to the victors!!!

i guess ohio finally got somethin right hehe

12 posted on 04/01/2005 10:01:33 PM PST by MetalHeadConservative35 (To the Wayne,Mi, Pop Scene...Be afriad...Be VERY afraid)
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To: OH Swing Voter

You trivialize the opinions of some good conservatives here on FR. Everyone has an epiphany, be the catalyst, not the catapult.


13 posted on 04/01/2005 10:01:44 PM PST by Bob J (RIGHTALK.com...a conservative alternative to NPR!)
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Big problem I see on this forum is absolute intolerance for differing points of view. You say one thing here and you get savagely attacked. Some of these people are often tyrannical in their opinions and their reactions. They act like a bunch of narrow minded libs or fanatic Muslims. Another problem is the lack of reading and comprehension skill. Some people do not read well and start flaming away when they misread a post. Spell check and grammar are also not the friends of many.
14 posted on 04/01/2005 10:02:50 PM PST by satchmodog9 (Murder and weather are our only news)
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To: Bob J
Been here a while haven't you member #48?
15 posted on 04/01/2005 10:03:42 PM PST by Graybeard58 (Remember and pray for Spec.4 Matt Maupin - MIA/POW- Iraq since 04/09/04)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

How did we deal with that jive?

number

*5*


16 posted on 04/01/2005 10:04:06 PM PST by fooman (Get real with Kim Jung Mentally Ill about proliferation)
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To: MWS

Yes, all on the same side. We should stop beating the piss out of each other when we disagree and discuss things like reasonable people. There are just some people who resort to name calling right off the bat.


17 posted on 04/01/2005 10:04:45 PM PST by satchmodog9 (Murder and weather are our only news)
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You say one thing here and you get savagely attacked.

How dare you say that you #*)%@

18 posted on 04/01/2005 10:05:25 PM PST by Graybeard58 (Remember and pray for Spec.4 Matt Maupin - MIA/POW- Iraq since 04/09/04)
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To: Bob J

Excellent essay Bob - I was thinking the same thing....

It is a very controversial situation, and even though I'm pro-life - I would not want to live like that - however, since there was no concrete evidence of Terri's wishes, of course one should side on the side of life, especially since her parents wanted to take care of her.

In any event, I want to express my outrage at the Berger slap on the wrist? WHERE IS THE OUTRAGE?????

The Clinton's garbage and stench remains even after they've been gone so long....


19 posted on 04/01/2005 10:05:39 PM PST by M. Peach (eschew obfuscation)
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To: Bob J
Bravo!



But don't call me crusty. I shower
once a month whether I need it or not.

20 posted on 04/01/2005 10:06:00 PM PST by Petronski (I thank God Almighty for a most remarkable blessing: John Paul the Great.)
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