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Did first Americans come from Europe?
MSNBC ^ | 2/20/06 | By Bjorn Carey

Posted on 02/20/2006 12:01:38 AM PST by minus_273

ST. LOUIS - The first humans to spread across North America may have been seal hunters from France and Spain.

This runs counter to the long-held belief that the first human entry into the Americas was a crossing of a land-ice bridge that spanned the Bering Strait about 13,500 years ago.

The new thinking was outlined here Sunday at the annual meeting of the American Association for the Advancement of Science.

Recent studies have suggested that the glaciers that helped form the bridge connecting Siberia and Alaska began receding around 17,000 to 13,000 years ago, leaving very little chance that people walked from one continent to the other.

Also, when archaeologist Dennis Stanford of the Smithsonian Institution places American spearheads, called Clovis points, side-by-side with Siberian points, he sees a divergence of many characteristics.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 1492; ageofsail; clovis; cloviscomet; columbus; columbusday; duplicate; firstnation; godsgravesglyphs; kennethtankersley; nativeamericans; notmuslims; preclovis
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this is going to upset a lot of people and turn worlds upside down
1 posted on 02/20/2006 12:01:41 AM PST by minus_273
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To: minus_273

see - you owe it all to us ! Now show a bit gratitude ... :)


2 posted on 02/20/2006 12:28:40 AM PST by globalheater (There is no instance of a country having benefited from prolonged warfare - Sun Tzu)
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To: minus_273

This sort of reminds me of the lady who said humans evolved from dolphins. With one "piece" of the puzzle, non-substantiated assertions are made.


3 posted on 02/20/2006 12:40:41 AM PST by kipita (Conservatives: Freedom and Responsibility………Liberals: Freedom from Responsibility)
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To: minus_273

I've been watching this issue unfold for several years. The Kennewick Man is the trigger to this debate and really heated the atmosphere. Without the completed DNA tests...we are left with the strong possibility that around 7000 years ago...a non-Indian existed in the Pacific northwest. The amusing part of this...is that numerous tribes have attempted to grab Kennewick and forbid DNA testing. Reason: if you have one shred of evidence that shows white Europeans actually were here...then the "holy grail" of the Indian empire is blown.

In the last five year...this whole issue goes into overdrive with a significant find in Penn...which leads historians to a slightly different history...not only did Asians cross over the Alaskan or Canadian region....but White Europeans also made their way over. At some point...one group met another...in whatever numbers...and the lesser was eridicated from the American landscape. We could be very well talking about two native American groups (European and Asian) who met in the eastern US...and with the Asian group being more aggressive and warlike...they simply annihilated a lesser group of Europeans, and assimilated what remained into their tribes.

It changes history to great extent. But a similiar arguement is brewing over Chinese exploration of the Pacific in the early 1400's....and they may have discovered America 70 years prior to Columbus. Enough evidence exists which forces everyone to go back to the drawingboard.

By 2010...we may have two major parts of American history...which may have to be rewritten...with both adults and children learning a vastly different past.


4 posted on 02/20/2006 12:45:36 AM PST by pepsionice
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To: minus_273

This is not exactly a new theory.


http://www.dailylobo.com/media/paper344/news/2004/11/09/News/Arrowheads.Spur.New.Theory-798163.shtml?norewrite&sourcedomain=www.dailylobo.com


5 posted on 02/20/2006 12:52:44 AM PST by Pontiac (Ignorance of the law is no excuse, ignorance of your rights can be fatal.)
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To: minus_273

Does this mean I can open a casino now?


6 posted on 02/20/2006 12:56:08 AM PST by Names Ash Housewares
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To: minus_273

Interesting in this regard is the fact that, after nine years of litigation, the courts have finally lifted prohibitions on examination of the remains of Kennewick Man. Since July, 2005, these remains have been a subject of study for scientists at the Burke Museum of Natural History, Seattle.


7 posted on 02/20/2006 1:03:23 AM PST by Jack Hammer
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To: pepsionice

We already have a bandwagon and a magazine. We just need a theme song now.

http://www.ancientamerican.com/


8 posted on 02/20/2006 1:58:28 AM PST by Marius3188
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To: minus_273

So no one could possibly have made it across the Bering Strait because the water wasn't frozen; therefore the likely scenario is that people came to the Americas from Europe, across the Atlantic in boats. Sounds like good, solid logic to me.


9 posted on 02/20/2006 2:24:43 AM PST by Mr Ramsbotham (Bend over and think of England.)
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To: pepsionice
We could be very well talking about two native American groups (European and Asian) who met in the eastern US...and with the Asian group being more aggressive and warlike...they simply annihilated a lesser group of Europeans, and assimilated what remained into their tribes.

I demand reparations! Or you can just give me 5% of Foxwoods.

10 posted on 02/20/2006 3:43:52 AM PST by montag813
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To: minus_273
Recent studies have suggested that the glaciers that helped form the bridge connecting Siberia and Alaska began receding around 17,000 to 13,000 years ago...

Remind me, why did the glaciers begin receding beween 17,000 and 13,000 years ago?

11 posted on 02/20/2006 4:32:46 AM PST by Steely Tom (Your taboos are not my taboos.)
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To: minus_273

North America populated by a lost hunting party? My guess is those parties didn't have lots of females.


12 posted on 02/20/2006 4:40:45 AM PST by BadAndy (The DemocRATs are the enemy's most effective weapon.)
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To: minus_273
Ok, now. First of all, I share blankets with "native Americans" and as a member of the Chickasaw tribe of optimistic, independent voting, rather successful right thinkers I have to tell you this opens up some room for debate.

Secondly, I think that land-bridge theory is a real diaper-load of misinformation.

Skulls of euro-trash have been found predating most of my red skinned cousins. Just because some of my more misguided Northwestern U.S. cousins wanted to claim those lost bones doesn't make them right. Get over it! They (first euro-trash): came, made no difference, did not survive, and did not propagate. So what?

The truth be told, CHINESE seafarers more than likely traded with my cousins on the West Coast long before Jesus was nailed to the tree.
And that land-bridge theory? Total arrogance.

Who is truly informed enough to say my distant ancestors (and maybe yours) didn't PADDLE or SAIL across the Bering Strait, or walk across the ice? There is no evidence of a LAND bridge.

13 posted on 02/20/2006 4:52:39 AM PST by MarshallDillon ( FIGHT THE TEXAS TOLL ROAD KLAN www.corridorwatch.com)
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To: Steely Tom

"Global warming!" - Algore


14 posted on 02/20/2006 4:54:22 AM PST by cll
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To: pepsionice

In Heavener, Oklahoma there is evidence of European explorers predating Columbus. The Heavener Runestone has markings made by Vikings.


15 posted on 02/20/2006 4:55:15 AM PST by MarshallDillon ( FIGHT THE TEXAS TOLL ROAD KLAN www.corridorwatch.com)
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To: Steely Tom
"Remind me, why did the glaciers begin receding beween 17,000 and 13,000 years ago?"

Could have been the result of the Great Flood from the days of Noah.

16 posted on 02/20/2006 4:57:07 AM PST by F16Fighter
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To: minus_273
I think modern day man thinks too lowly of ancient man. Look at what the Egyptians did or the Incas and Aztecs.

A question I would like answered is how did the Hawaiian natives come to exist? If the Japanese or some other Asian peoples were able to reach Hawaii by crossing the Pacific then it would reason that Europeans could cross the Atlantic, especially since both were seafaring people and the distance is about half of what the Asians would have had to cross to reach Hawaii.

I also think it would be entirely possible for Egyptians to travel to West Africa and sail or row to South America and Central America.

17 posted on 02/20/2006 4:57:15 AM PST by normy (Don't hit at all if it is honorably possible to avoid hitting; but never hit soft.)
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To: minus_273

My tribe wants a casino right now!


18 posted on 02/20/2006 5:11:21 AM PST by Jimmy Valentine (DemocRATS - when they speak, they lie; when they are silent, they are stealing the American Dream)
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To: Steely Tom
Remind me, why did the glaciers begin receding beween 17,000 and 13,000 years ago?

Scientists believe that the landslide election of an early tribe of Republicans was responsible. They designed advanced bronze weapons, traded stock certificates hand-printed on birchbark and, most egregiously, invented fire, even though they had never agreed on a plan for safe long-term disposal of ashes.

19 posted on 02/20/2006 5:19:42 AM PST by BlazingArizona
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"Scientists believe that the landslide election of an early tribe of Republicans was responsible. They designed advanced bronze weapons, traded stock certificates hand-printed on birchbark and, most egregiously, invented fire, even though they had never agreed on a plan for safe long-term disposal of ashes."

Not to mention their use in large numbers of flatulent, high emission domesticated sports-utility wooly mamooths.


20 posted on 02/20/2006 7:21:03 AM PST by cll
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