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"A HOUSE DIVIDED" - Pukin's FReeperversary Rant

Posted on 05/17/2006 7:47:58 AM PDT by Pukin Dog

Edited on 05/17/2006 8:30:59 AM PDT by Lead Moderator. [history]

"A house divided against itself cannot stand." – Abraham Lincoln, 1858

It is getting somewhat strange around these parts when not only the President, but yesterday the First Lady was personally attacked by someone claiming to be a ‘Conservative’. Can there be any doubt that there are forces among us looking to drive a wedge between us?

A few weeks ago, this forum’s owner attempted to remind all of us of the big picture, that regardless of any personal animosity towards the President or Republican Party over their adherence to Conservative principles, that they are still a clear choice over the alternative Democrat Party rule. At that time, I assumed that FReeper-sanity had been restored, and that some of the negative rhetoric aimed at those in Washington D.C. would be dialed back.

Free Republic is a political forum with a proud history and vision, responsible for dragging Dan Rather from his post, and providing countless radio-talk shows with their daily talking points. FReepers are unique in their determination and energy towards protecting and defending the goals of our Founding Fathers.

We are also quite a powder keg of emotion and anticipation, expecting our Republican majorities to take advantage of this opportunity to make permanent gains in our Conservative agenda. Some might argue that this opportunity has been squandered, but those persons would be ignorant of history, lacking understanding that change cannot occur overnight in Washington, and that this is the way our Founders designed our Republic.

In frustration, impatience, and ignorance, we have allowed this forum to become a haven for those who do not share our Conservative goals. I do not blame our enemies anymore then I would blame a scorpion for stinging me. If anger and stupidity were one’s nature, I would expect the trolls that infect this forum to be angry and stupid consistently, which also makes them somewhat easy to detect.

The trolls are not the problem, though. The problem is that so many of us are allowing ourselves to be taken in by those who seek only to prevent us from going to the polls in November to keep their stinking hands off our government for another term. There can be no doubt, that no matter how disappointing our current government has been in promoting the Conservative agenda, that the alternative, enabled by our staying home will be MUCH worse.

The way to deal with Republicans who have actively worked against our goals is to defeat them in Primary elections. We do not even have to defeat them all, only enough of them to send the message that we will indeed target them if they work against our agenda. It should be the goal of EVERY conservative to see that Lincoln Chaffee is defeated in November. His seat is one we can afford to lose. Were I a Rhode Island resident, I would vote for the Democrat if only to send a message to Snowe, Hagel, Collins, Graham, and especially that bastard Specter that their primaries just got a lot tougher.

We only need to get one of them, and Chaffee is the one to get. It does not really matter if a Democrat takes his seat; he will be junior and mute as long as we maintain our overall majority in the Senate.

The one thing that bothers me here like nothing else, is the simple disrespect of the President. Am I am Bush-Bot? Damn straight I am. If you want to know why, click on my handle to read Southack’s excellent list of Bush’s accomplishments in office. But if Bush had done almost nothing in office, it would be no excuse for some of the slights and disrespect he has received from some of us on this forum.

Some of the things I have read here this past week match in tone what one can find on our favorite Democrat sewer site. Someone calling himself or herself a FReeper was promoting shooting aliens at the border until they stopped coming. Is that what we are about? Obviously not, and that so-called Conservative has been eliminated from this forum.

I think it is important to remember that you and I have just as much responsibility as George Bush does in changing our culture to better reflect Conservative values. Right now, this very moment, Conservatives have the government they deserve. We put them there. They are not our mommies and daddies sent out to bring home our Conservative bread. That responsibility lies with all of us. These Republicans represent us, they don’t serve us. Our job is to pick the best individual and send him/her to Washington in the hope that their CHARACTER will see them through.

This is why it is such a nutty thing to consider punishing the Republican party, when we should be letting them know that we’ve got their back, but if they cant do the job, we will replace them with ANOTHER Republican, instead of handing the reigns of government to the party of anger, hopelessness and despair. We sometimes like to think that those people we send to Washington are different from us, that they are capable of meeting our every need and desire.

I want every one of you to think about what you would consider to be your perfect mate. Maybe some of you think you have found that person. If you are married and totally in love with another person, that is great. Now I want to ask you to think about the last time that person you love, who is PERFECT for you, completely pissed you off. Remember, this is your perfect mate, your one true love. Do they do everything you want them to do? Obey your every desire? If you answer yes, I am going to put you on my troll list.

Those people in Washington do not even cut your lawn, yet you expect perfection. Get over it.

I am issuing a challenge to every person who considers him or her to be a Conservative; why don’t we all commit to a return to HONOR? Do we honor our Conservative agenda when we comport ourselves in disgraceful ways? Is it an honorable thing to suggest that our President is a moron, as I read here a few days ago? Is it honorable to attack Laura Bush or any other person representing true Conservative values?

Some of you might argue that George Bush is not representing Conservative values to your liking. I would remind you that the first thing Bush said upon taking office, is that he was going to be President of ALL the people, not just some. You know that if you followed Bush from the beginning that he campaigned of the very immigration platform he is defending right now. Did you vote for him? Yeah?

If you have ever had a steak at a Ruth’s Chris restaurant, you know that sometimes they bring that wonderful steak to your table with a sprig of parsley on it. I hate parsley. Hate it. If I were to treat my steak the way some of us want to treat our President, I would have to throw out the steak, due to that nasty parsley that comes with it. I can deal with the parsley to get the steak, and that is what I am asking FReepers to do.

Expecting perfection from any person, group or team is a recipe for disaster. George W. Bush is my president. You can disagree with him, you can blame him for your problems if that is your desire. If you disrespect his office, his service, his risking his life to be with our troops in Iraq, his steadfast desire to bring a new tone to Washington, or if you just like the way he keeps Democrats so pissed off they lose their minds on a regular basis, I ask you to treat him and his wife with respect and cut the personal attacks. If you call him ‘Shrub’ or ‘Jorge’ consider yourself my enemy.

Right now, our real enemy are the Main Stream Media, the Democrat Party, and all who follow and support them. If you want to jump-ugly on someone, why not start with those leaky bastards and give our side a break?

Do it for Pukin.

I knew that you could.


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To: Cold Heat
The border crossings did spike, but they spiked because of the use of the "Amnesty word" which did not come from Bush. it came from the detractors of the "guest worker program and from nowhere else.

It happened because changes were being discussed and the border was not secure.

1,401 posted on 05/17/2006 12:47:58 PM PDT by dirtboy (An illegal immigrant says my tagline used to be part of Mexico)
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To: RinaseaofDs

Here here.. Well said, thank you.


1,402 posted on 05/17/2006 12:48:01 PM PDT by SeaBiscuit (God Bless America and All who protect and preserve this Great Nation.)
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To: nicmarlo
"Wasn't the idea behind this thread to promote Conservative Republicans?"

Those who don't have a death wish, yes.

1,403 posted on 05/17/2006 12:48:10 PM PDT by Lead Moderator
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To: Rokke
California is one of the few western states that repeatedly votes to compound its own problems.

Like when we passed Prop 187, which made all law enforcement officers check immigration status, and denied ALL benefits to illegal immigrants a FULL TWELVE YEARS AGO! Long before illegal immigration was a blip any other state's radar.

As I recall a Federal judge struck it down. Please spare me the California bashing. The President got more votes from here then from any other state, and the Republican party gets the vast majority of its money from here. Not to mention it's the home of this website.

..everyone else is too busy trying to clean the problem up..

Please..

1,404 posted on 05/17/2006 12:48:15 PM PDT by Smogger (It's the WOT Stupid)
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To: azhenfud

Well all I can say is...that sometimes a good fight can make very good FRiends out of those who were previously engaged in combat. At times a mutual respect can be formed by combatants when each score their share of valid blows.


1,405 posted on 05/17/2006 12:48:28 PM PDT by BlueStateDepression
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To: Jim Robinson
And you wonder why people consider you a troll?

I am a troll for having conservative leanings? Sure, i don't support the presidents lack of movement on the invasion of mexicans & al quaeda and the 400 billion precription program, but I do think he's a hell of a lot better than our other option we were given.

How am I a troll. My convictions are squarely in line with those on the front page here at FR, just not the latest unwritten interpretation. What have i ever said that was trollish? So I have a goofy profile page. That makes me a troll? I donate here, and have supported FR in my time here.

Yeah, I am a veteran, son of a Viet Nam veteran (BOTH my mom & dad!), nephew to two Viet Nam puprple heart veterans, and grandson to 2 purple heart WWII vets, one a veteran of D-Day.

How doea any of that make me a troll?

1,406 posted on 05/17/2006 12:48:32 PM PDT by Toby06 (I'm a conservative-I'll support conservative candidates. That does NOT necessarily mean republican)
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To: Torie; Mo1

Well, "the greatest" is definitely pushing it! The Vitter amendment would've stripped the guest worker amnesty provisions from the bill. It's been rejected, but the roll call isn't online yet.


1,407 posted on 05/17/2006 12:48:37 PM PDT by AntiGuv (How is Mexico our friend?)
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To: billbears
We have opposing parties. The Republicans vs the RINOs. Hopefully, someday, we'll have enough Republicans to overpower both the RINOs and their Democrat accomplices.
1,408 posted on 05/17/2006 12:48:38 PM PDT by Jim Robinson
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To: RinaseaofDs
Not to be unnecessarily particular about your specific analogies, but the immigration issue - especially - and his stand on it goes beyond 'parsley'.

Lifetime appointments of Roberts and Alito = Big Juicy Porterhouse Steak.

Immigration Debate = Parsley.

Perspective, baby!

Now, I really gotta get outta here.

1,409 posted on 05/17/2006 12:48:48 PM PDT by Pukin Dog (Sans Reproache)
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To: najida
the "Wimmen 'R Evil Threads" and the "Shop for Furrn' Wives" threads are a hoot!

Why do I always miss the good threads, dangit!

1,410 posted on 05/17/2006 12:48:49 PM PDT by The_Victor (If all I want is a warm feeling, I should just wet my pants.)
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To: OldFriend
It has nothing to do with anecdotal trash thrown at the President for talking about guest workers.

Dead wrong. The economy was doing well in 2004 as well.

1,411 posted on 05/17/2006 12:48:58 PM PDT by dirtboy (An illegal immigrant says my tagline used to be part of Mexico)
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To: Pukin Dog

Damn!!! see what you started?


1,412 posted on 05/17/2006 12:49:48 PM PDT by digger48
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To: Just another Joe
There is a difference between Republican and conservative, and a difference between Democrat and liberal.

At one time, perhaps.

Regarding Dems...don't think that holds true today.

Virtually every democrat I know is straight liberal.

1,413 posted on 05/17/2006 12:49:48 PM PDT by DCPatriot ("It aint what you don't know that kills you. It's what you know that aint so" Theodore Sturgeon)
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To: Brian Allen

>><< It should be the goal of EVERY conservative to see that Lincoln Chaffee is defeated in November. His seat is one we can afford to lose. Were I a Rhode Island resident, I would vote for the Democrat if only to send a message to Snowe, Hagel, Collins, Graham, and especially that bastard Specter that their primaries just got a lot tougher.<<

Chaffee's conservative rating of 12 ties him exactly with Hillary Clinton

http://www.acuratings.org/2005all.htm#RI


1,414 posted on 05/17/2006 12:49:48 PM PDT by gondramB (He who angers you, in part, controls you. But he may not enjoy what the rest of you does about it.)
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To: tarheelswamprat

If what is necessary is sitting out an election - it is unacceptable and is only helping the enemy.

I don't have time to read all the posting history of the posters to get their full views - sorry - but that is reality.


1,415 posted on 05/17/2006 12:49:48 PM PDT by ClancyJ (To cause a democrat to win is the most effective way to destroy this country.)
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To: BlueStateDepression

It's looking GOOD today thus far, and for that I am grateful and a little more optimistic.

Tony Snow is in command again today. FNC is covering if you have access to TV.


1,416 posted on 05/17/2006 12:50:28 PM PDT by onyx (Deport the trolls --- send them back to DU)
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To: Vicomte13
"Bush's plan won't go through. The House will refuse to capitulate on amnesty. So we will have status quo."

I hope your right Vicomte13 but this is what we thought about the McPain/Finkgold Campaign Finance Reform bill. Sometimes the Repubis seem to have no limits to their gullability.

1,417 posted on 05/17/2006 12:50:38 PM PDT by Desron13 (If you constantly vote between the lesser of two evils then evil is your ultimate destination.)
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To: feinswinesuksass
I am tired of all sailors being called drunks.

ok, one more.

I'm afraid that one is true. :-)

1,418 posted on 05/17/2006 12:50:41 PM PDT by Pukin Dog (Sans Reproache)
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To: DCPatriot

Ah, I have seen "placemarker" or "sit-rep" or "bookmark" for that, but was taught "BTTT" means bump to the top, so as to have this thread appear at the top of the recent posts list.

In any case, i'll accept your explanation with a thank you.


1,419 posted on 05/17/2006 12:50:49 PM PDT by Toby06 (I'm a conservative-I'll support conservative candidates. That does NOT necessarily mean republican)
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To: onyx; Howlin
You're not. He pulls that regularly with Howlin.

Oh, that's rich. Howlin is the queen of attack mode on FR.

I've debated plenty of people in a polite manner over this issue. But when people say I want Dems to win, or imply I'm a Stormfronter, guess what? I will return fire, especially now since the moderators are taking sides in this debate.

1,420 posted on 05/17/2006 12:51:07 PM PDT by dirtboy (An illegal immigrant says my tagline used to be part of Mexico)
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