Posted on 05/17/2006 7:47:58 AM PDT by Pukin Dog
Edited on 05/17/2006 8:30:59 AM PDT by Lead Moderator. [history]
"A house divided against itself cannot stand." – Abraham Lincoln, 1858
It is getting somewhat strange around these parts when not only the President, but yesterday the First Lady was personally attacked by someone claiming to be a ‘Conservative’. Can there be any doubt that there are forces among us looking to drive a wedge between us?
A few weeks ago, this forum’s owner attempted to remind all of us of the big picture, that regardless of any personal animosity towards the President or Republican Party over their adherence to Conservative principles, that they are still a clear choice over the alternative Democrat Party rule. At that time, I assumed that FReeper-sanity had been restored, and that some of the negative rhetoric aimed at those in Washington D.C. would be dialed back.
Free Republic is a political forum with a proud history and vision, responsible for dragging Dan Rather from his post, and providing countless radio-talk shows with their daily talking points. FReepers are unique in their determination and energy towards protecting and defending the goals of our Founding Fathers.
We are also quite a powder keg of emotion and anticipation, expecting our Republican majorities to take advantage of this opportunity to make permanent gains in our Conservative agenda. Some might argue that this opportunity has been squandered, but those persons would be ignorant of history, lacking understanding that change cannot occur overnight in Washington, and that this is the way our Founders designed our Republic.
In frustration, impatience, and ignorance, we have allowed this forum to become a haven for those who do not share our Conservative goals. I do not blame our enemies anymore then I would blame a scorpion for stinging me. If anger and stupidity were one’s nature, I would expect the trolls that infect this forum to be angry and stupid consistently, which also makes them somewhat easy to detect.
The trolls are not the problem, though. The problem is that so many of us are allowing ourselves to be taken in by those who seek only to prevent us from going to the polls in November to keep their stinking hands off our government for another term. There can be no doubt, that no matter how disappointing our current government has been in promoting the Conservative agenda, that the alternative, enabled by our staying home will be MUCH worse.
The way to deal with Republicans who have actively worked against our goals is to defeat them in Primary elections. We do not even have to defeat them all, only enough of them to send the message that we will indeed target them if they work against our agenda. It should be the goal of EVERY conservative to see that Lincoln Chaffee is defeated in November. His seat is one we can afford to lose. Were I a Rhode Island resident, I would vote for the Democrat if only to send a message to Snowe, Hagel, Collins, Graham, and especially that bastard Specter that their primaries just got a lot tougher.
We only need to get one of them, and Chaffee is the one to get. It does not really matter if a Democrat takes his seat; he will be junior and mute as long as we maintain our overall majority in the Senate.
The one thing that bothers me here like nothing else, is the simple disrespect of the President. Am I am Bush-Bot? Damn straight I am. If you want to know why, click on my handle to read Southack’s excellent list of Bush’s accomplishments in office. But if Bush had done almost nothing in office, it would be no excuse for some of the slights and disrespect he has received from some of us on this forum.
Some of the things I have read here this past week match in tone what one can find on our favorite Democrat sewer site. Someone calling himself or herself a FReeper was promoting shooting aliens at the border until they stopped coming. Is that what we are about? Obviously not, and that so-called Conservative has been eliminated from this forum.
I think it is important to remember that you and I have just as much responsibility as George Bush does in changing our culture to better reflect Conservative values. Right now, this very moment, Conservatives have the government they deserve. We put them there. They are not our mommies and daddies sent out to bring home our Conservative bread. That responsibility lies with all of us. These Republicans represent us, they don’t serve us. Our job is to pick the best individual and send him/her to Washington in the hope that their CHARACTER will see them through.
This is why it is such a nutty thing to consider punishing the Republican party, when we should be letting them know that we’ve got their back, but if they cant do the job, we will replace them with ANOTHER Republican, instead of handing the reigns of government to the party of anger, hopelessness and despair. We sometimes like to think that those people we send to Washington are different from us, that they are capable of meeting our every need and desire.
I want every one of you to think about what you would consider to be your perfect mate. Maybe some of you think you have found that person. If you are married and totally in love with another person, that is great. Now I want to ask you to think about the last time that person you love, who is PERFECT for you, completely pissed you off. Remember, this is your perfect mate, your one true love. Do they do everything you want them to do? Obey your every desire? If you answer yes, I am going to put you on my troll list.
Those people in Washington do not even cut your lawn, yet you expect perfection. Get over it.
I am issuing a challenge to every person who considers him or her to be a Conservative; why don’t we all commit to a return to HONOR? Do we honor our Conservative agenda when we comport ourselves in disgraceful ways? Is it an honorable thing to suggest that our President is a moron, as I read here a few days ago? Is it honorable to attack Laura Bush or any other person representing true Conservative values?
Some of you might argue that George Bush is not representing Conservative values to your liking. I would remind you that the first thing Bush said upon taking office, is that he was going to be President of ALL the people, not just some. You know that if you followed Bush from the beginning that he campaigned of the very immigration platform he is defending right now. Did you vote for him? Yeah?
If you have ever had a steak at a Ruth’s Chris restaurant, you know that sometimes they bring that wonderful steak to your table with a sprig of parsley on it. I hate parsley. Hate it. If I were to treat my steak the way some of us want to treat our President, I would have to throw out the steak, due to that nasty parsley that comes with it. I can deal with the parsley to get the steak, and that is what I am asking FReepers to do.
Expecting perfection from any person, group or team is a recipe for disaster. George W. Bush is my president. You can disagree with him, you can blame him for your problems if that is your desire. If you disrespect his office, his service, his risking his life to be with our troops in Iraq, his steadfast desire to bring a new tone to Washington, or if you just like the way he keeps Democrats so pissed off they lose their minds on a regular basis, I ask you to treat him and his wife with respect and cut the personal attacks. If you call him ‘Shrub’ or ‘Jorge’ consider yourself my enemy.
Right now, our real enemy are the Main Stream Media, the Democrat Party, and all who follow and support them. If you want to jump-ugly on someone, why not start with those leaky bastards and give our side a break?
Do it for Pukin.
I knew that you could.
There is also a general feeling in some corners that it is ok to drool over Coulter or Malkin, but somehow demeaning to comment on the appeal o male politicians, pundits or celebrities.
I remember one guy getting all upset about a President Bush photo that was particularly good and had garnered by some positive reactions. He said something along the lines of "You girls are so embarrassing, drooling all over a politician. How demeaning. You are lowering the entire intelligence of FR." And then promptly left to make comments on a Coulter thread and demanding pictures. ROFL. Very funny.
When was the last time you heard the phrase "Coulterbot?"
>> If you call him ‘Shrub’ or ‘Jorge’ consider yourself my enemy.
JORGE!<<
I wouldn't have said "enemy." I would say that is someone deliberately making a personal attack on the President instead talking issues. And that does reflect on the speaker.
In four years, Bush doubled the GOP Hispanic vote.
Don't sweat it, we are not "professional", as our pay stub indicates. We do this strictly voluntarily, as our time allows us. (I am not any of the mods that have posted previously)
You've told me not to post to you and I have respected that. On this post of yours I have too. If(when)the fence goes up, you'll not hear one squeak out of me. The money used to build it would in time pay for itself on the money we, as a country, would save giving illegals welfare, free medical, housing, foodstamps and all the other freebees they think they are entitled too off my, your and every other taxpayers dime.
Build the fence! My country means more to me than money.
I'll go back to not posting to you again.
Everybody likes me. Only a psychotic hatemonger wouldn't.
"When was the last time you heard the phrase "Coulterbot?"
I'm glad you said it...the Brotherhood of the Popsicle Worship and don't forget the Malkinites.
Cameron County George W. Bush 34,801 50.32% John Kerry 33,998 49.16%
Ah, shift change!
Good evening AM!
btw, it's nice to be having a pleasant conversation with you
"'President Bush and the Senate Republicans have simply got to give in to the _______________ demand of...'
The demand is always the same, fill in the blank with the crusade of choice."
You're right, the demand IS always the same.
And when the demand comes from tax-hawks and it's "No New Taxes" the Republicans always give in on that demand, because 1992 taught them that doing anything else with that PARTICULAR constituency, tax-hawks, will result in defeat.
And when the demand is "clear pro-life nominees", the Republicans always cave in and give into that demand, because they know that the pro-life wing of the party is huge, and not bluffing.
The Border Conservatives are a large enough, angry enough, important enough faction of the party that the Republicans have to give on their demand too, because they can't win without them.
If the blank was filled by, say, "drill in ANWR", the truth is that the faction of the party committed to that is NOT so big or so strong that the Republicans have to cave into it or lose, so they don't.
The entirety of the problem here is a misunderstanding consisting of treating the BorderBots as though they were a fringe group, as opposed to treating them as though they were like the tax hawks or pro-lifers or the business roundtable: core constitutents who cannot be ignored on their core issues.
So yes, your sentence is true. There is, indeed, always some group or other saying "Give us X or else." You can't give everybody everything. But when it's tax-hawks, pro-lifers or the Business Roundtable, you bet your sweet bippy that the GOP leadership steps and fetches: because the "or else" for THOSE massive groups is "Or else you get a 1992".
The big chunks of the base have to be appeased.
BorderBots are a big part of the base.
Drilling may never happen in ANWR, and it won't determine the outcome of any election. But raise taxes, put up a pro-choice Supreme Court Justice...or refuse to close the Mexican border...and you lose elections.
The demand may be phrased the same way, but the important thing is who's making it. BorderBots are too big to be ignored.
I'd be fine with the cost. Then again, I'm not opposed to paying more to hire legal citizens to do my landscaping either.
>>Don't sweat it, we are not "professional", as our pay stub indicates. We do this strictly voluntarily, as our time allows us. (I am not any of the mods that have posted previously)<<
But..but... Admin Moderator has posted previously...this is very confusing. :)
We don't have 'shifts'. There are times for some mods that work better for them. We have a couple night owls, some early birds, but that's not set in stone. It's whenever we have time. I was here this am, but had work to do. See, most of us do have a life outside FR.
Actually, my uncle was a top engineer in Long Beach let's say between 1965 and 1980--several years in that time span. He had first hand knowledge of serious corruption that he was concerned went all the way to to top of the State Government. Hopefully it did not involve the governor we all loved so much. But it was an extremely serious case and had tentacles into lots of things.
My uncle saw fit to relocate to New Mexico in the interest of preserving his life and that of his family. He did testify to some FBI agents, or some such special Federal investigators. I don't recall what ever became of the case. I think a lot of people got off scot free. There may have been a sacrificial lamb or two who got caught.
Oh, it will, or I will certainly be banned.
I wouldn't know. I don't read their stuff. What I do know is what I keep hearing: "we need cheap labor." Even Senator Dorgan yesterday had a poster about that: EXPORTING GOOD JOBS....IMPORTING CHEAP LABOR. He said that's what this is about. Senator Sessions has said much similar comments.
I think she has gone a bit over the edge on this issue myself.
I disagree; she is used to all the buzz words used in the liberal anti-American National Education Association in their attempt to snow job parents and educators. Their approach has been quite effective, but so has Schlafly's in calling a spade a spade and "undressing" their buzz words so that people understand the man behind the curtain charade they pull. She was very effective in educating many many people and effecting change. She's doing nothing different as concerns this matter.
What is the "take away everything else" to which you keep referring?
If you think the millions who have poured into our countr, and who will be given citizenship (whether that be in 5 years or 10 years) are likely to be added to the trenches of conservative Republican voters, you are fooling yourself. If you think it's healthy for this country to completely alter its sound immigration policies, and instead, flood this country with predominantly low-skilled and uneducated masses (a reversal of what our current immigration law has in place), who, because of that lack of education and low skills will actually cost our society more than they could ever benefit, you're also fooling yourself.
While my country is being invaded by the millions, what will there be left to hold onto that's American?
"What do you mean by 'their fence'?"
What I mean is that this is their core demand, their issue, their heart's desire, The Thing That Will Keep Them Voting Republican This Year.
It's The Thing The President And The Senate Have Got To Accede To Or We're All Toast.
That's what I mean by "their" fence.
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