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"A HOUSE DIVIDED" - Pukin's FReeperversary Rant

Posted on 05/17/2006 7:47:58 AM PDT by Pukin Dog

Edited on 05/17/2006 8:30:59 AM PDT by Lead Moderator. [history]

"A house divided against itself cannot stand." – Abraham Lincoln, 1858

It is getting somewhat strange around these parts when not only the President, but yesterday the First Lady was personally attacked by someone claiming to be a ‘Conservative’. Can there be any doubt that there are forces among us looking to drive a wedge between us?

A few weeks ago, this forum’s owner attempted to remind all of us of the big picture, that regardless of any personal animosity towards the President or Republican Party over their adherence to Conservative principles, that they are still a clear choice over the alternative Democrat Party rule. At that time, I assumed that FReeper-sanity had been restored, and that some of the negative rhetoric aimed at those in Washington D.C. would be dialed back.

Free Republic is a political forum with a proud history and vision, responsible for dragging Dan Rather from his post, and providing countless radio-talk shows with their daily talking points. FReepers are unique in their determination and energy towards protecting and defending the goals of our Founding Fathers.

We are also quite a powder keg of emotion and anticipation, expecting our Republican majorities to take advantage of this opportunity to make permanent gains in our Conservative agenda. Some might argue that this opportunity has been squandered, but those persons would be ignorant of history, lacking understanding that change cannot occur overnight in Washington, and that this is the way our Founders designed our Republic.

In frustration, impatience, and ignorance, we have allowed this forum to become a haven for those who do not share our Conservative goals. I do not blame our enemies anymore then I would blame a scorpion for stinging me. If anger and stupidity were one’s nature, I would expect the trolls that infect this forum to be angry and stupid consistently, which also makes them somewhat easy to detect.

The trolls are not the problem, though. The problem is that so many of us are allowing ourselves to be taken in by those who seek only to prevent us from going to the polls in November to keep their stinking hands off our government for another term. There can be no doubt, that no matter how disappointing our current government has been in promoting the Conservative agenda, that the alternative, enabled by our staying home will be MUCH worse.

The way to deal with Republicans who have actively worked against our goals is to defeat them in Primary elections. We do not even have to defeat them all, only enough of them to send the message that we will indeed target them if they work against our agenda. It should be the goal of EVERY conservative to see that Lincoln Chaffee is defeated in November. His seat is one we can afford to lose. Were I a Rhode Island resident, I would vote for the Democrat if only to send a message to Snowe, Hagel, Collins, Graham, and especially that bastard Specter that their primaries just got a lot tougher.

We only need to get one of them, and Chaffee is the one to get. It does not really matter if a Democrat takes his seat; he will be junior and mute as long as we maintain our overall majority in the Senate.

The one thing that bothers me here like nothing else, is the simple disrespect of the President. Am I am Bush-Bot? Damn straight I am. If you want to know why, click on my handle to read Southack’s excellent list of Bush’s accomplishments in office. But if Bush had done almost nothing in office, it would be no excuse for some of the slights and disrespect he has received from some of us on this forum.

Some of the things I have read here this past week match in tone what one can find on our favorite Democrat sewer site. Someone calling himself or herself a FReeper was promoting shooting aliens at the border until they stopped coming. Is that what we are about? Obviously not, and that so-called Conservative has been eliminated from this forum.

I think it is important to remember that you and I have just as much responsibility as George Bush does in changing our culture to better reflect Conservative values. Right now, this very moment, Conservatives have the government they deserve. We put them there. They are not our mommies and daddies sent out to bring home our Conservative bread. That responsibility lies with all of us. These Republicans represent us, they don’t serve us. Our job is to pick the best individual and send him/her to Washington in the hope that their CHARACTER will see them through.

This is why it is such a nutty thing to consider punishing the Republican party, when we should be letting them know that we’ve got their back, but if they cant do the job, we will replace them with ANOTHER Republican, instead of handing the reigns of government to the party of anger, hopelessness and despair. We sometimes like to think that those people we send to Washington are different from us, that they are capable of meeting our every need and desire.

I want every one of you to think about what you would consider to be your perfect mate. Maybe some of you think you have found that person. If you are married and totally in love with another person, that is great. Now I want to ask you to think about the last time that person you love, who is PERFECT for you, completely pissed you off. Remember, this is your perfect mate, your one true love. Do they do everything you want them to do? Obey your every desire? If you answer yes, I am going to put you on my troll list.

Those people in Washington do not even cut your lawn, yet you expect perfection. Get over it.

I am issuing a challenge to every person who considers him or her to be a Conservative; why don’t we all commit to a return to HONOR? Do we honor our Conservative agenda when we comport ourselves in disgraceful ways? Is it an honorable thing to suggest that our President is a moron, as I read here a few days ago? Is it honorable to attack Laura Bush or any other person representing true Conservative values?

Some of you might argue that George Bush is not representing Conservative values to your liking. I would remind you that the first thing Bush said upon taking office, is that he was going to be President of ALL the people, not just some. You know that if you followed Bush from the beginning that he campaigned of the very immigration platform he is defending right now. Did you vote for him? Yeah?

If you have ever had a steak at a Ruth’s Chris restaurant, you know that sometimes they bring that wonderful steak to your table with a sprig of parsley on it. I hate parsley. Hate it. If I were to treat my steak the way some of us want to treat our President, I would have to throw out the steak, due to that nasty parsley that comes with it. I can deal with the parsley to get the steak, and that is what I am asking FReepers to do.

Expecting perfection from any person, group or team is a recipe for disaster. George W. Bush is my president. You can disagree with him, you can blame him for your problems if that is your desire. If you disrespect his office, his service, his risking his life to be with our troops in Iraq, his steadfast desire to bring a new tone to Washington, or if you just like the way he keeps Democrats so pissed off they lose their minds on a regular basis, I ask you to treat him and his wife with respect and cut the personal attacks. If you call him ‘Shrub’ or ‘Jorge’ consider yourself my enemy.

Right now, our real enemy are the Main Stream Media, the Democrat Party, and all who follow and support them. If you want to jump-ugly on someone, why not start with those leaky bastards and give our side a break?

Do it for Pukin.

I knew that you could.


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To: Vicomte13
But just the official numbers: 2 MILLION ILLEGALS a year, are ASTOUNDING.

Wait until they become legal and start voting. Then you'll really see some astounding numbers...

2,041 posted on 05/17/2006 4:24:23 PM PDT by AntiGuv (How is Mexico our friend?)
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To: Terpfen

OK...give me a second and then check your freepmail.


2,042 posted on 05/17/2006 4:24:40 PM PDT by Miss Marple (Lord, please look after Mozart Lover's and Jemian's sons and keep them strong.)
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To: Vicomte13

You are so wrong on so many fronts. You like to find an issue and push your weight around. You like to threaten or you will leave, you want to throw away all our work so that you get to put your finger in the eye of the government.

Well - it is apparent that you will not help us - so, I consider you one of the enemy. Anybody that is willing to throw away all of my efforts to get a good man in the government for their current issue of the day dramatic "show the republicans they cannot keep me unless I get everything I want" tantrum are not worth worrying about.

Why, because after this issue - it will be the next issue and the next and each time you will throw your tantrum and walk out leaving us to do the real work.

Soon, the GOP understands you cannot be depended on and they write you off. They just really do not care if you leave or not - because if not this issue, it will be the next. You are a "dramatic quitter". Who needs you?


2,043 posted on 05/17/2006 4:27:53 PM PDT by ClancyJ (To cause a democrat to win is the most effective way to destroy this country.)
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To: onyx

Grass duty made me miss that briefing today. I have to look forward to tomorrow,


2,044 posted on 05/17/2006 4:28:22 PM PDT by BlueStateDepression
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To: trubluolyguy

2.74 here. 3.15 out your way, huh? Refresh my memory, why arent we drilling in ANWR again?


2,045 posted on 05/17/2006 4:28:50 PM PDT by cardinal4 (Kerry-Mcarthy in 2008!)
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To: colorado tanker
It has taken 20 years to get a second chance at a conservative majority on SCOTUS. If the Republican-bashers persuade the base to stay home this fall, the Senate will again go Democrat and we will not get another nominee like Roberts or Alito, because Presidents have to play the hand they are dealt.

That attitude reminds me of this verse.

What shall it profit a man if he gains the whole world and loses his own soul?

Matthew 16:26

2,046 posted on 05/17/2006 4:29:40 PM PDT by mewzilla (Property must be secured or liberty cannot exist. John Adams)
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To: cardinal4

2.74 here. 3.15 out your way, huh? Refresh my memory, why arent we drilling in ANWR again?



Because Liberals run the Senate?


2,047 posted on 05/17/2006 4:30:20 PM PDT by trubluolyguy (You want my vote? I want border security and no criminals rewarded for criminal behavior)
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To: Xenophobic Alien

The "F" word shows that the poster has nothing to say worth hearing. Hopefully Jim will ban such language.


2,048 posted on 05/17/2006 4:31:20 PM PDT by ClancyJ (To cause a democrat to win is the most effective way to destroy this country.)
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To: colorado tanker
I'm a RINO basher, BTW, not a Pubbie basher.

There is a difference :)

2,049 posted on 05/17/2006 4:31:32 PM PDT by mewzilla (Property must be secured or liberty cannot exist. John Adams)
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To: CWOJackson

Well jackson, if we get some serious enforcement on the border, and action inland (like here in Illinois) along with some steps dealing with the takeover of all the Spanish everywhere I think it would make folks look unthankful and a bit marginalized to be claiming treason.

Today with things as they have been for decades draws that kind of ire and to be honest I can see where that sentiment comes from. Frustration mostly.

The worst thing that could happen is if nothing at all comes down the pipe from conference. At this point I just hope all hope that doesn't happen.


2,050 posted on 05/17/2006 4:32:44 PM PDT by BlueStateDepression
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To: ClancyJ; Vicomte13

You are so far off base. Vicomte13 actually AGREES with the President on this issue. He just happens to be more realistic about the fall election than some.


2,051 posted on 05/17/2006 4:32:49 PM PDT by trubluolyguy (You want my vote? I want border security and no criminals rewarded for criminal behavior)
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To: Pukin Dog

A noble experiment...it was nice while it lasted.


2,052 posted on 05/17/2006 4:33:14 PM PDT by CWOJackson
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To: Indy Pendance

That Durango is nice. I hate what they have done with it since, it looks like a friggin mini-van! That being said, I wont buy anything else other than a Dodge. They have really turned things around. One of the granolas at work told me I was "part of the problem" for driving a big SUV. It is lifted and has big tires. I guess Im doing something right! Oh, she has one of those hybrids..


2,053 posted on 05/17/2006 4:33:51 PM PDT by cardinal4 (Kerry-Mcarthy in 2008!)
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To: Smogger

Of course it is.

But we are talking about incremental differences.

I prefer to get the frog out of the bucket before the water gets painful.

A real tough NATIONAL ID vs a State ID of quality composition would be that much closer to the required SLAG chip implant. I prefer to stay as far away from that as remotely possible as long as possible.

We are already a lot closer than I prefer.


2,054 posted on 05/17/2006 4:35:13 PM PDT by Quix ( PREPARE . . . PRAY . . . PLACE your trust, hope, faith and life in God's hands moment by moment)
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To: trubluolyguy
Because Liberals run the Senate?

Its even worse-the Chinese, Canadians, and the friggin Spanish all have drill rights in the Gulf, while we are admonished to drive Priaps or whatever they are called..

2,055 posted on 05/17/2006 4:35:18 PM PDT by cardinal4 (Kerry-Mcarthy in 2008!)
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To: Pukin Dog

Great rant, Puke:

I just added your about page to my Favorites list so I can remind myself from time to time of President Bush's many accomplishments.


2,056 posted on 05/17/2006 4:36:28 PM PDT by rwa265 (Behold, I am with you always. (Matthew 28:20))
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To: BlueStateDepression
"The worst thing that could happen is if nothing at all comes down the pipe from conference."

I would be prepared for the worst then. I would not be surprised to see both extremes on this issue force it into a stalemate with NOTHING being passed.

2,057 posted on 05/17/2006 4:36:39 PM PDT by CWOJackson
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To: lentulusgracchus

No kool aid. Just seeing if you have a plan of action, or if you're just a foo fighter.


2,058 posted on 05/17/2006 4:37:31 PM PDT by sam_paine (X .................................)
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To: mewzilla
From Limbaugh's website...

When Will Republicans Wake Up?

Good question.

2,059 posted on 05/17/2006 4:38:17 PM PDT by mewzilla (Property must be secured or liberty cannot exist. John Adams)
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To: cardinal4

I absolutely hate the new model. I love my truck. I bought mine because it was unique looking, and it was my 3rd 'suv', or my 40th birthday present to me. I had the politically incorrect cheerokee, with the indian hood ornimant and indian pin striping. Then, we had the Bronco, and then my Durango. The cheeorkee was the best, AMC, had rust everywhere, even the floorboards. But, it was great fun mudding. This was before the term 'suv' was coined by the enviros. Now, I proudly buy suv just to tick them off.


2,060 posted on 05/17/2006 4:38:49 PM PDT by Indy Pendance
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