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"A HOUSE DIVIDED" - Pukin's FReeperversary Rant

Posted on 05/17/2006 7:47:58 AM PDT by Pukin Dog

Edited on 05/17/2006 8:30:59 AM PDT by Lead Moderator. [history]

"A house divided against itself cannot stand." – Abraham Lincoln, 1858

It is getting somewhat strange around these parts when not only the President, but yesterday the First Lady was personally attacked by someone claiming to be a ‘Conservative’. Can there be any doubt that there are forces among us looking to drive a wedge between us?

A few weeks ago, this forum’s owner attempted to remind all of us of the big picture, that regardless of any personal animosity towards the President or Republican Party over their adherence to Conservative principles, that they are still a clear choice over the alternative Democrat Party rule. At that time, I assumed that FReeper-sanity had been restored, and that some of the negative rhetoric aimed at those in Washington D.C. would be dialed back.

Free Republic is a political forum with a proud history and vision, responsible for dragging Dan Rather from his post, and providing countless radio-talk shows with their daily talking points. FReepers are unique in their determination and energy towards protecting and defending the goals of our Founding Fathers.

We are also quite a powder keg of emotion and anticipation, expecting our Republican majorities to take advantage of this opportunity to make permanent gains in our Conservative agenda. Some might argue that this opportunity has been squandered, but those persons would be ignorant of history, lacking understanding that change cannot occur overnight in Washington, and that this is the way our Founders designed our Republic.

In frustration, impatience, and ignorance, we have allowed this forum to become a haven for those who do not share our Conservative goals. I do not blame our enemies anymore then I would blame a scorpion for stinging me. If anger and stupidity were one’s nature, I would expect the trolls that infect this forum to be angry and stupid consistently, which also makes them somewhat easy to detect.

The trolls are not the problem, though. The problem is that so many of us are allowing ourselves to be taken in by those who seek only to prevent us from going to the polls in November to keep their stinking hands off our government for another term. There can be no doubt, that no matter how disappointing our current government has been in promoting the Conservative agenda, that the alternative, enabled by our staying home will be MUCH worse.

The way to deal with Republicans who have actively worked against our goals is to defeat them in Primary elections. We do not even have to defeat them all, only enough of them to send the message that we will indeed target them if they work against our agenda. It should be the goal of EVERY conservative to see that Lincoln Chaffee is defeated in November. His seat is one we can afford to lose. Were I a Rhode Island resident, I would vote for the Democrat if only to send a message to Snowe, Hagel, Collins, Graham, and especially that bastard Specter that their primaries just got a lot tougher.

We only need to get one of them, and Chaffee is the one to get. It does not really matter if a Democrat takes his seat; he will be junior and mute as long as we maintain our overall majority in the Senate.

The one thing that bothers me here like nothing else, is the simple disrespect of the President. Am I am Bush-Bot? Damn straight I am. If you want to know why, click on my handle to read Southack’s excellent list of Bush’s accomplishments in office. But if Bush had done almost nothing in office, it would be no excuse for some of the slights and disrespect he has received from some of us on this forum.

Some of the things I have read here this past week match in tone what one can find on our favorite Democrat sewer site. Someone calling himself or herself a FReeper was promoting shooting aliens at the border until they stopped coming. Is that what we are about? Obviously not, and that so-called Conservative has been eliminated from this forum.

I think it is important to remember that you and I have just as much responsibility as George Bush does in changing our culture to better reflect Conservative values. Right now, this very moment, Conservatives have the government they deserve. We put them there. They are not our mommies and daddies sent out to bring home our Conservative bread. That responsibility lies with all of us. These Republicans represent us, they don’t serve us. Our job is to pick the best individual and send him/her to Washington in the hope that their CHARACTER will see them through.

This is why it is such a nutty thing to consider punishing the Republican party, when we should be letting them know that we’ve got their back, but if they cant do the job, we will replace them with ANOTHER Republican, instead of handing the reigns of government to the party of anger, hopelessness and despair. We sometimes like to think that those people we send to Washington are different from us, that they are capable of meeting our every need and desire.

I want every one of you to think about what you would consider to be your perfect mate. Maybe some of you think you have found that person. If you are married and totally in love with another person, that is great. Now I want to ask you to think about the last time that person you love, who is PERFECT for you, completely pissed you off. Remember, this is your perfect mate, your one true love. Do they do everything you want them to do? Obey your every desire? If you answer yes, I am going to put you on my troll list.

Those people in Washington do not even cut your lawn, yet you expect perfection. Get over it.

I am issuing a challenge to every person who considers him or her to be a Conservative; why don’t we all commit to a return to HONOR? Do we honor our Conservative agenda when we comport ourselves in disgraceful ways? Is it an honorable thing to suggest that our President is a moron, as I read here a few days ago? Is it honorable to attack Laura Bush or any other person representing true Conservative values?

Some of you might argue that George Bush is not representing Conservative values to your liking. I would remind you that the first thing Bush said upon taking office, is that he was going to be President of ALL the people, not just some. You know that if you followed Bush from the beginning that he campaigned of the very immigration platform he is defending right now. Did you vote for him? Yeah?

If you have ever had a steak at a Ruth’s Chris restaurant, you know that sometimes they bring that wonderful steak to your table with a sprig of parsley on it. I hate parsley. Hate it. If I were to treat my steak the way some of us want to treat our President, I would have to throw out the steak, due to that nasty parsley that comes with it. I can deal with the parsley to get the steak, and that is what I am asking FReepers to do.

Expecting perfection from any person, group or team is a recipe for disaster. George W. Bush is my president. You can disagree with him, you can blame him for your problems if that is your desire. If you disrespect his office, his service, his risking his life to be with our troops in Iraq, his steadfast desire to bring a new tone to Washington, or if you just like the way he keeps Democrats so pissed off they lose their minds on a regular basis, I ask you to treat him and his wife with respect and cut the personal attacks. If you call him ‘Shrub’ or ‘Jorge’ consider yourself my enemy.

Right now, our real enemy are the Main Stream Media, the Democrat Party, and all who follow and support them. If you want to jump-ugly on someone, why not start with those leaky bastards and give our side a break?

Do it for Pukin.

I knew that you could.


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To: zarf
"The idiocy of your post is self evident."

Another example of the decidedly caustic remarks that one gets to endure on FR of late. And again coming from one that places the party above all.

Slinging insults at those that disagree with you, or those that you think disagree is not going to win their support.

721 posted on 05/17/2006 10:36:38 AM PDT by meyer (Permanently boycott all businesses that close for the May 1st illegal alien march!)
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To: BlueStateDepression

Great post! Thanks for the enlightenment about "the other side" which I, apparently, am on.


722 posted on 05/17/2006 10:36:38 AM PDT by Prokopton
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To: Spiff
"Or did he just make you made and you flushed him?"

No, he didn't make me made at all. Don't do servile work.

723 posted on 05/17/2006 10:36:42 AM PDT by Lead Moderator
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To: onyx

make sure to tell him it has to be the perfect tree

It will keep him guessing *L*


724 posted on 05/17/2006 10:36:45 AM PDT by Mo1 (DEMOCRATS: A CULTURE OF TREASON)
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To: Sir Gawain

Believe what you want, but lunch is over and I do NOT have the time.


725 posted on 05/17/2006 10:36:53 AM PDT by Fudd Fan (DemocRATs- the CULTURE OF TREASON!)
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To: Pukin Dog

Not bad for a squishy moderate. :) Despite the fact that I disagree with the President in some areas overall I do support him.

Most of my disgust is reserved for Congress in general and specifically with the Senate. So, I will no longer be voting Republican. I shall instead vote conservative. More often than not the conservatives for whom I will cast my vote will be Republican.

Some of you may have a problem with that, but I don't care. It's my vote and it will be cast.

For example, I will be casting my votes this year for Senator George Allen and Congressman Eric Cantor. I did not vote for squishy moderate John Warner in 2002, and will not vote for him in 2008 should he run again.

P.S. You're not supposed to eat the parsley.


726 posted on 05/17/2006 10:37:09 AM PDT by Doohickey (Democrats are nothing without a constituency of victims.)
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To: Rebelbase

Posting like a DU troll is a violation of the rules.


727 posted on 05/17/2006 10:37:16 AM PDT by Jim Robinson
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To: alnick
If you don't know the difference between expressing displeasure and the outright vicious, nasty smears we've been witnessing lately, then you're beyond being reasoned with.

Sorry if I offended your tender sensibilities.

728 posted on 05/17/2006 10:37:17 AM PDT by Glenn (Annoy a BushBot...Think for yourself.)
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To: Quix

"Our Republic and our world canNOT well or easily afford such an event--and survive in anything like a Constitutional form."

Deep breaths.
If the Democrats win Congress in 2006, with slim minorities, it won't be the end of the Republic.

The Republican Party will caucus, add a solid border fence to the "untouchable" policies of the party (along with no tax hikes and pro-life) and the Border Conservatives will come back in droves, propelling the GOP to victory in 2008.

Now, couldn't we just avoid the intervening loss and give the BorderBots their fence NOW? It's just not that hard.


729 posted on 05/17/2006 10:37:38 AM PDT by Vicomte13 (Aure entuluva!)
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To: pbrown
>>Not when they're on duty. I wasn't aware that part of their job description as moderators was informing FReepers where their opinions lay.

If they can tell us their opinions, why can't we know their names?<<

When I'm on a techie site I want the mods to have pro-techie bias - on a Tivo site I want them to be pro-Tivo and on a conservative site I want them to be pro-conservative.


Now, since they are human (at least I assume they are human) they are are gonna have their on take on what "pro-conservative" means and sometimes that is not going to be parallel with my take. That seems a reasonable price to pay for having pro-conservative mods. YMMV.
730 posted on 05/17/2006 10:37:53 AM PDT by gondramB (He who angers you, in part, controls you. But he may not enjoy what the rest of you does about it.)
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To: Lead Moderator
I'm not going to take your banning bait. You have access to the black hole where the deleted posts are sent, I don't and without them there is no "proof".

I simply made a statement of what I have observed over the time I've been here.
731 posted on 05/17/2006 10:37:55 AM PDT by Rebelbase (" Bush II: What's good for Mexico is good for America." --FReeper, Vigilanteman.)
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To: Spiff; Lead Moderator; Texaggie79
Be specific. What posting guidelines did TexAggie violate? Or did he just make you made and you flushed him?

The LM did not suspend Texaggie. I did. Of course LM can and does over ride my actions. You, sir, have just as impressive a history as your vacationing friend. You are in no position to demand accountability from any moderator. Recommend you leave further complaints off this thread and take them up directly with the forum owner, Mr. Robinson.

732 posted on 05/17/2006 10:38:01 AM PDT by Admin Moderator
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To: ClancyJ; All

How many times do you read a post that reveals the real actions of the democrats? Not many for a conservative site. How many times do you see rants against Bush, rants for Bush?
- - - -

I think that bears repeating.

Thanks for your kind words and reply.

I don't recall if it was BOXERFACE or some other female CA Marxist supermouth . . . it was well before Billdo's run for President . . . she was at a convention or some such and commented to someone else what great hopes they had in Billdo's rise.

It was clear--I think she was talking to another avowed communist--it was clear that Billdo had been and was being groomed to become President and carry forward the Communist/Marxist/Globalist agenda. That was years before he ran. Wish I had a ref. Just a stray fact in my noggin. This traitorous congress critter was bragging about what they were going to do in putting Billdo forward as President and how Marxist socialism would really make progress in this country and the world, via Billdo's presidency. Hideous.

Such facts need to be ferretted out and screamed from every housetop and keyboard.

Soross alone is a super hideous traitor. Scuba Teddy--the list seems endless. And, I've discovered--such as with TODAYS TOONS--there are EFFECTIVE ways to raise the consciousness of lacadasical conservatives as well as moderates and even fair minded liberal idiots--WE CAN HAVE A POTENT IMPACT in our personal networks and as we go about our daily activities.

BUT WE HAVE TO BE WILLING TO RISK AND TO BOTHER.

And we'd best be ENCOURAGING, SUPPORTING, BRAINSTORMING AND HELPING ONE ANOTHER HEREON TO DO THAT! This is not another firing range--especially at each other!

What is the need of that? Ego? Who the blazes cares how long another Conservative's tool is? We ought to all be hyper concerned that we are using ALL OUR COMMUNICATION TOOLS to defeat the globalist dictator, Marxist, Machiavellian mentality looming over the globe. And, we ought all be encouraging and supporting others hereon to use their communication tools most effectively too.

Preaching to the choir can be good for steam venting or encouraging one another many times. But we do well and best to energize and encourage one another to effectively preach to the clueless idiots around about us.

imho.

Thanks


733 posted on 05/17/2006 10:38:22 AM PDT by Quix ( PREPARE . . . PRAY . . . PLACE your trust, hope, faith and life in God's hands moment by moment)
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To: Pukin Dog
"..... Because its my FReeperversary?....."

Happy Anniversary!

734 posted on 05/17/2006 10:38:25 AM PDT by DoctorMichael (The Fourth Estate is a Fifth Column!!!!!!!!!)
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To: ClancyJ

Good post.

The left wants to take away what we've worked for and share it with the world. Of course, most of the leftists in Congress have their money overseas and in trust funds that can't be touched.

Read the book "Do as I Say, not as I do".

It was fascinating and revealed just how wealthy the leftists are, what lengths they've gone to hold onto that wealth, and how they want the rest of us to SHARE ours.

The left will set up world courts and do the UN's bidding.

Sure illegal immigration is important; vitally important.

But I'm a broken glass Republican and will do anything I can do to make sure we don't let the globalist/Marxists back in power.


735 posted on 05/17/2006 10:38:28 AM PDT by Peach (DICC's - doing the work for the DNC)
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To: maica
Loads of antagonistic '98 and '99 Freepers show up during very contentious times.

Perhaps the above freepers may not live on FR 24/7 or, like myself, peruse the threads and seldom feel the need to contribute to the prattle.

736 posted on 05/17/2006 10:38:40 AM PDT by Conservababe
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To: Mo1

This was a huge tree. He has to find TWIN trees to replace the one! Thanks again, Mo! Perfect suggestion!


737 posted on 05/17/2006 10:38:42 AM PDT by onyx (Deport the trolls --- send them back to DU)
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To: Vicomte13

Quote: "You don't. And you're angry at me for calling a spade a spade. So be angry. "

Anger? No, not me. I would like a wall. But, I am not giving up on it yet. I just know that under the Republicans it MAY get built. Under the dems, it will NEVER get built.


738 posted on 05/17/2006 10:38:46 AM PDT by FlipWilson
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To: Fudd Fan

Have a great day!


739 posted on 05/17/2006 10:39:03 AM PDT by Sir Gawain
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To: sam_paine
Or is voting as the losing loyal conservative minority in our own "party" all we should ever aspire to?

DING.....DINGDINGDINGDINGDINGDINGDINGGGG!!!!

We have a winner!

It's called a trap, son. Eat your broccoli, do the right thing. It isn't about you. Et cetera, et cetera.

740 posted on 05/17/2006 10:39:17 AM PDT by lentulusgracchus ("Whatever." -- sinkspur)
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