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"A HOUSE DIVIDED" - Pukin's FReeperversary Rant

Posted on 05/17/2006 7:47:58 AM PDT by Pukin Dog

Edited on 05/17/2006 8:30:59 AM PDT by Lead Moderator. [history]

"A house divided against itself cannot stand." – Abraham Lincoln, 1858

It is getting somewhat strange around these parts when not only the President, but yesterday the First Lady was personally attacked by someone claiming to be a ‘Conservative’. Can there be any doubt that there are forces among us looking to drive a wedge between us?

A few weeks ago, this forum’s owner attempted to remind all of us of the big picture, that regardless of any personal animosity towards the President or Republican Party over their adherence to Conservative principles, that they are still a clear choice over the alternative Democrat Party rule. At that time, I assumed that FReeper-sanity had been restored, and that some of the negative rhetoric aimed at those in Washington D.C. would be dialed back.

Free Republic is a political forum with a proud history and vision, responsible for dragging Dan Rather from his post, and providing countless radio-talk shows with their daily talking points. FReepers are unique in their determination and energy towards protecting and defending the goals of our Founding Fathers.

We are also quite a powder keg of emotion and anticipation, expecting our Republican majorities to take advantage of this opportunity to make permanent gains in our Conservative agenda. Some might argue that this opportunity has been squandered, but those persons would be ignorant of history, lacking understanding that change cannot occur overnight in Washington, and that this is the way our Founders designed our Republic.

In frustration, impatience, and ignorance, we have allowed this forum to become a haven for those who do not share our Conservative goals. I do not blame our enemies anymore then I would blame a scorpion for stinging me. If anger and stupidity were one’s nature, I would expect the trolls that infect this forum to be angry and stupid consistently, which also makes them somewhat easy to detect.

The trolls are not the problem, though. The problem is that so many of us are allowing ourselves to be taken in by those who seek only to prevent us from going to the polls in November to keep their stinking hands off our government for another term. There can be no doubt, that no matter how disappointing our current government has been in promoting the Conservative agenda, that the alternative, enabled by our staying home will be MUCH worse.

The way to deal with Republicans who have actively worked against our goals is to defeat them in Primary elections. We do not even have to defeat them all, only enough of them to send the message that we will indeed target them if they work against our agenda. It should be the goal of EVERY conservative to see that Lincoln Chaffee is defeated in November. His seat is one we can afford to lose. Were I a Rhode Island resident, I would vote for the Democrat if only to send a message to Snowe, Hagel, Collins, Graham, and especially that bastard Specter that their primaries just got a lot tougher.

We only need to get one of them, and Chaffee is the one to get. It does not really matter if a Democrat takes his seat; he will be junior and mute as long as we maintain our overall majority in the Senate.

The one thing that bothers me here like nothing else, is the simple disrespect of the President. Am I am Bush-Bot? Damn straight I am. If you want to know why, click on my handle to read Southack’s excellent list of Bush’s accomplishments in office. But if Bush had done almost nothing in office, it would be no excuse for some of the slights and disrespect he has received from some of us on this forum.

Some of the things I have read here this past week match in tone what one can find on our favorite Democrat sewer site. Someone calling himself or herself a FReeper was promoting shooting aliens at the border until they stopped coming. Is that what we are about? Obviously not, and that so-called Conservative has been eliminated from this forum.

I think it is important to remember that you and I have just as much responsibility as George Bush does in changing our culture to better reflect Conservative values. Right now, this very moment, Conservatives have the government they deserve. We put them there. They are not our mommies and daddies sent out to bring home our Conservative bread. That responsibility lies with all of us. These Republicans represent us, they don’t serve us. Our job is to pick the best individual and send him/her to Washington in the hope that their CHARACTER will see them through.

This is why it is such a nutty thing to consider punishing the Republican party, when we should be letting them know that we’ve got their back, but if they cant do the job, we will replace them with ANOTHER Republican, instead of handing the reigns of government to the party of anger, hopelessness and despair. We sometimes like to think that those people we send to Washington are different from us, that they are capable of meeting our every need and desire.

I want every one of you to think about what you would consider to be your perfect mate. Maybe some of you think you have found that person. If you are married and totally in love with another person, that is great. Now I want to ask you to think about the last time that person you love, who is PERFECT for you, completely pissed you off. Remember, this is your perfect mate, your one true love. Do they do everything you want them to do? Obey your every desire? If you answer yes, I am going to put you on my troll list.

Those people in Washington do not even cut your lawn, yet you expect perfection. Get over it.

I am issuing a challenge to every person who considers him or her to be a Conservative; why don’t we all commit to a return to HONOR? Do we honor our Conservative agenda when we comport ourselves in disgraceful ways? Is it an honorable thing to suggest that our President is a moron, as I read here a few days ago? Is it honorable to attack Laura Bush or any other person representing true Conservative values?

Some of you might argue that George Bush is not representing Conservative values to your liking. I would remind you that the first thing Bush said upon taking office, is that he was going to be President of ALL the people, not just some. You know that if you followed Bush from the beginning that he campaigned of the very immigration platform he is defending right now. Did you vote for him? Yeah?

If you have ever had a steak at a Ruth’s Chris restaurant, you know that sometimes they bring that wonderful steak to your table with a sprig of parsley on it. I hate parsley. Hate it. If I were to treat my steak the way some of us want to treat our President, I would have to throw out the steak, due to that nasty parsley that comes with it. I can deal with the parsley to get the steak, and that is what I am asking FReepers to do.

Expecting perfection from any person, group or team is a recipe for disaster. George W. Bush is my president. You can disagree with him, you can blame him for your problems if that is your desire. If you disrespect his office, his service, his risking his life to be with our troops in Iraq, his steadfast desire to bring a new tone to Washington, or if you just like the way he keeps Democrats so pissed off they lose their minds on a regular basis, I ask you to treat him and his wife with respect and cut the personal attacks. If you call him ‘Shrub’ or ‘Jorge’ consider yourself my enemy.

Right now, our real enemy are the Main Stream Media, the Democrat Party, and all who follow and support them. If you want to jump-ugly on someone, why not start with those leaky bastards and give our side a break?

Do it for Pukin.

I knew that you could.


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To: Peach

George H.W. Bush was an EXCELLENT president and that he didn't do one thing that you wanted



IOW he lied.


801 posted on 05/17/2006 10:52:57 AM PDT by trubluolyguy (If its such a great idea, lets see how well the capital and white house do with a virtual fence.)
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Bring back Dasher and Peacebaby!


802 posted on 05/17/2006 10:53:06 AM PDT by Xenophobic Alien (WWDD??)
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To: Dante3
I cannot recall President Bush every completing a speech with "God bless America.

Tell me you are not serious.

803 posted on 05/17/2006 10:53:18 AM PDT by Pukin Dog (Sans Reproache)
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To: Peach
George H.W. Bush was an EXCELLENT president and that he didn't do one thing that you wanted (not raise taxes after pledging not to, and not realizing that he raised them to pay for the Gulf War) is why we got Clinton.

GHWB was an ok President .. but I wouldn't say excellent

With that said .. I have never understand why anyone would vote for the nutcase Perot

804 posted on 05/17/2006 10:53:22 AM PDT by Mo1 (DEMOCRATS: A CULTURE OF TREASON)
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To: gondramB
Would you really want moderators who don't have opinions about politics?

Yes. I would prefer mods to be impartial during their shifts and only post their opinions when they are posting under their real screen names.

805 posted on 05/17/2006 10:53:37 AM PDT by Conservababe
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To: Lead Moderator

Go look at some of the crap on the lesbian thread from yesterday. That certainly does not support the family-friendly look and feel of Free Republic, yet many get away with it all day long with a wink and a nod.


806 posted on 05/17/2006 10:53:49 AM PDT by Toby06 (I am a conservative. I sill support conservative candidates.)
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To: Lead Moderator
Back up your claim.

In public? The last time I posted in a thread mentioning that 2 conservative friends who had been FReepers for awhile were banned for what was rather capricious moderation the posts were deleted and the Admin Mod told me to quit it.

Is it okay now?
807 posted on 05/17/2006 10:54:03 AM PDT by BJClinton (Forget the fence, annex Mexico.)
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To: kitkat

No, it makes me somebody with the ability to think independently.


808 posted on 05/17/2006 10:54:18 AM PDT by clintonh8r (Neither a Bushbot nor a Bushbasher.)
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To: Vicomte13

I am all for the FENCE NOW.

I think you underestimate the forces for evil overtly obvious in the DIMRAT CAMP but stepping back for a greater perspective view of the whole big picture--the globalist forces have many nooses around our collective throats--especially around our Constitutional rights, media, institutions, freedoms etc. And, they have the means of drawing those nooses tight.

Certainly 33% roughly are vigorously and blindly, mindlessly cheering such Marxist efforts on. Another 5-30% depending are happy to collude when the delusion and Machiavellian manipulations are slick enough to foll them into it--which is increasingly common.

Giving the DIMRATS more power at this point in history would be truly suicidal to the Bill of Rights, to our Republic and to Freedom loving folks everywhere. It might not mean the demise of our Republic. I believe God will eventually raise it back up more or less regardless. But it looks at present that the forces of evil are determined to shred our Republic in order to make raising up the Global tyrannical government far easier.

They are not kidding.

And they are more powerful than you seem to believe.

Voting them MORE power will only speed their traitorous efforts regardless of if it's 2 years, 4 years or 8 years.

And I seriously question whether after 4 years or however many of Shrillery in power--whether we COULD have another fair election, or not.


809 posted on 05/17/2006 10:54:27 AM PDT by Quix ( PREPARE . . . PRAY . . . PLACE your trust, hope, faith and life in God's hands moment by moment)
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To: Prokopton

Hey no worries, I sometimes feel like I am on the "other side" on every subject on every thread I participate in. LOL It's all good.

My grandfather once told me that if you are offering alternatives along side your opposition there is good chance you will make everyone mad at some point or another.

i use that as a feel good measure when I fell like I have angered everyone around me.


810 posted on 05/17/2006 10:54:31 AM PDT by BlueStateDepression
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To: Desron13; Pukin Dog
Nice rant and I agree with most of what you said.

The one issue that I will give the Republicans zero wiggle room on however is the amnesty disaster.

If this legislation goes down the way it looks like it's going to, our job just gets 100% harder if not impossible. If tens or hundreds of millions of illiterate Hispanics are granted citizenship and subsequently the vote, just who do you think they will vote for? It certainly wont be the Republicans. If we allow this to happen, it wont matter how loyal we are to the conservatives in Congress. After a few years of this, there wont be any there to be loyal to.

18 Senators (R) and the administration are so wrong on this, that it scares me to death. This is not a political game! This is OUR COUNTRY! Secure the borders FIRST .

811 posted on 05/17/2006 10:54:39 AM PDT by meema (I am a Conservative Traditional Republican, NOT an elitist, sexist, cynic or right wing extremist!)
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To: Just another Joe

You won't find a democrat that is pro-life, wants to cut taxes, support the second amendment.

You will find that democrats want America to be controlled by an international world government, you will find democrats do not honor America as the great nation she is.

You must remember - candidates lie to get votes. Democrats have to lie because they cannot publicly state what their goals are.

The reason democrats want illegal immigrants is for the votes they will mine from them. They will never be for defending the border because newcomers will be ignorant and can be lured to vote - whether citizens or not.

It is important to understand what liberals are. You do not learn from what they say they are.

You need to listen to a little of Rush Limbaugh for an education in what the goals of liberals are.


812 posted on 05/17/2006 10:54:49 AM PDT by ClancyJ (To cause a democrat to win is the most effective way to destroy this country.)
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To: Go Gordon

Naturally, disagreeing with the President on specific issues is not necessarily "bashing." I'm referring to the overwhelming tone of anger and personal invective directed toward him that has characterized much of FR in recent months. It's the sort of thing we used to scoff at when it was the province of DU.


813 posted on 05/17/2006 10:54:59 AM PDT by karnage
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To: Dante3

Then you have a VERY selective memory. The president has frequently ended speeches with God bless America.


814 posted on 05/17/2006 10:55:29 AM PDT by Peach (DICC's - doing the work for the DNC)
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To: Rebelbase

Keep posting like a DU troll and you will eventually wear out your welcome and be booted like a DU troll.


815 posted on 05/17/2006 10:55:30 AM PDT by Jim Robinson
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To: BJClinton

You're copping out on me. Back up your claim or put a sock in it.


816 posted on 05/17/2006 10:55:32 AM PDT by Lead Moderator
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To: nicmarlo
Exactly.

I feel like I'm like I'm in Bizzaro World.

We have elected officials in the US Government rewarding breaking the law and refusing to control the border *AND* conservatives are defending them.

Incredible.
817 posted on 05/17/2006 10:55:33 AM PDT by rcocean (Copyright is theft and loved by Hollywood socialists)
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To: nicmarlo
One thing that will be very important for the future of the Conservative movement, is for us to not assume that all Conservatives are PERFECT Conservatives. The Perfect Conservative does NOT exist. Even Reagan raised taxes. Who would dare suggest Reagan was not a Conservative?
818 posted on 05/17/2006 10:55:46 AM PDT by Pukin Dog (Sans Reproache)
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To: SilencedOne

Go back to DU.


819 posted on 05/17/2006 10:55:50 AM PDT by jdm
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To: Dante3
"May God continue to bless the United States of America."

That is what I have heard him say.

820 posted on 05/17/2006 10:56:09 AM PDT by La Enchiladita (God Bless Our Troops...including U.S. Border Patrol, America's First Line of Defense)
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