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Professor (Larry Sabato) Says Senator Used Racial Slur
AP ^ | 09/26/06

Posted on 09/26/2006 7:50:21 AM PDT by Pokey78

RICHMOND, Va. (AP) -- A noted political scientist joined one of Sen. George Allen's former college football teammates in claiming the senator used a racial slur to refer to blacks in the early 1970s, a claim Allen dismisses as ''ludicrously false.''

Larry J. Sabato, one of Virginia's most-quoted political science professors and a classmate of Allen's in the early 1970s, said in a televised interview Monday that Allen used the epithet.

Sabato's assertion came on the heels of accusations by Dr. Ken Shelton, a radiologist who was a tight end and wide receiver for the University of Virginia in the early 1970s when Allen was quarterback. He said Allen not only used the n-word frequently but also once stuffed a severed deer head into a black family's mailbox.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Virginia
KEYWORDS: liberal; smear
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To: AngieGOP

I totally agree, but would love to find some unPC thing done by Larry to make him have to answer for. My thinking is the Professor is ripe for a learning experience.


61 posted on 09/26/2006 8:36:39 AM PDT by tigtog
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To: Dems_R_Losers
Which is pretty funny because George Allen had zero chance of winning the GOP nomination in 2008 anyway.

I actually disagree with that - if you want my take, check out this post on another thread:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1708467/posts?page=59#59

This is all about keeping black voters on the Democrat plantation. If they lose the black vote, they have no chance of winning anything anymore. If they can't prove those Republicans are racists, they'll just make stuff up! They'll keep voting for Democrats even though they aren't doing a damn thing to deserve their votes.

That is absolutely true - IMHO, that's always their general strategy. The specific strategy is to blow up Allen by any means necessary.

It's also probably designed to get to black voters in the D.C. suburbs in Maryland who are thinking about voting for Mike Steele.

I agree with that as well - Steele is a real threat to their lies.

62 posted on 09/26/2006 8:38:34 AM PDT by Ogie Oglethorpe (2nd Amendment - the reboot button on the U.S. Constitution)
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To: Pokey78
If Allen said this to Sabato, what does it say of Sabato that he hung around with someone who spoke that way. Did Sabato jump into the conversation and protest? Was that the prevailing nomenclature in that environment in those days. We are now 35 years after these alleged statements. Why is Sabato coming forth now, 35 years later, if not for crass politcal effect. Racebaiter. I thought Sabato was better than that. Did Allen say this 10 years ago, 20 years ago, 25 years ago? Was Allen a college kid? Lets us keep the "F****ain Jew BAstard" quote up front and personal. That was only 10 or 12 years ago. Hillary needs to explain.

The one-sidedness of it so transparent. Yet the MSM has not one standard, but two.

63 posted on 09/26/2006 8:38:37 AM PDT by Texas Songwriter
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To: AngieGOP
What next? Will they tell us that Allen smoked a cigarette at the age of 16, an age at which it used to be legal in Virginia.

Heck. At my private school in Richmond, VA, there was a smoking bench outside the high school building. This was for students who were of age, which was 16, I believe.

64 posted on 09/26/2006 8:40:07 AM PDT by Montfort
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To: NRA1995
Why not publish that Allen called his next-door neighbor a wop when he was 6 years old?

Howard Cosell called Washington Redskins player Alvin Garrett a "little monkey" during a Monday Night Football game. The Washington Redskins were once coached coached by....George Allen's FATHER who was also named...GEORGE. Just like the current President

I don't think we need this sort of thing in the Senate

65 posted on 09/26/2006 8:40:09 AM PDT by socal_parrot
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To: Pokey78

Gee, I can't help but wonder why Old Media finds it relevant what Allen may or may not have uttered over 30 years ago, yet completely ignored the fact that John Kerry participated in a vote over 30 years ago on whether or not to assassinate seven United States senators.


66 posted on 09/26/2006 8:40:17 AM PDT by alnick
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To: Pokey78
Boy the Rats and Drive By media REALLY must fear Allen for them to slime him this far out from 2008. They didn't even do this to Reagan or GW Bush if I recall. Or did they?

Saboto just lost what creditability he had as an objective political pundit with his participation in this article. He should have said "no comment."
67 posted on 09/26/2006 8:40:27 AM PDT by The South Texan (The Democrat Party and the leftist (ABCCBSNBCCNN NYLATIMES)media are a criminal enterprise!)
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To: Fee

[First they said he is a JEW! Now they say he is a racist, next they will say he is GAY. In the future they will say he is an ALIEN from outer space. The Dems and Webb must be losing the campaign.]

Lol, yep. As other various FReepers have stated, the Dims are afraid of Allen and want to knock him out in the first round. Also, as previously stated, why now?? Allen has had a long political career. One would think that these "upright citizens" would have come forth long ago. Unless, of course, they're lying.


68 posted on 09/26/2006 8:41:07 AM PDT by khnyny (God Bless the Republic for which it stands)
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To: TheBattman

Of course keeping in mind that what is today considered a "racial slurr" was often the "standard" terminology used in the Early 70's
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With all due respect, that's a crock. Standard terminology for racist morons, maybe. I was a teen in the early 70's, and knew full well that the so-called 'n' word was used by people with their heads up their a$$es.


69 posted on 09/26/2006 8:42:27 AM PDT by dmz
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To: Pokey78

Who gives a rat's ass what he did in the 70's. What has he done since he's been in office is the important thing. It's double standards always with the Dems. And if they can't win on the issues, they have to go back 30-40 years. This sounds like the work of that smurf weasel dirt-digger Chris Lehane.


70 posted on 09/26/2006 8:44:38 AM PDT by mass55th (Courage is being scared to death - but saddling up anyway~~John Wayne)
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To: socal_parrot

And I charge Senator George Allen with the crime of poaching!



Signed,

Duke Of Nottingham


71 posted on 09/26/2006 8:46:07 AM PDT by Cedric
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To: twigs
"He was well-known, even back then, a darling of the faculty. "

Probably for snitching on his fellow students.

72 posted on 09/26/2006 8:46:55 AM PDT by mass55th (Courage is being scared to death - but saddling up anyway~~John Wayne)
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To: CharlesWayneCT
UVA was a very conservative place during the time Allen and Sabato would have been there. I entered in 1972 and I was in the first class that allowed women in without a quota. A state school! Some of my classmates reported that professors would say in class that women had no place there in their classes and then would say in a bit more detail where they did belong. But it never happened to me. There were very few Blacks, although my Resident Advisor in 1972 was a Black woman. There was an effort to recruit them by the time I left in the mid to late 70's. Some had a hard time adjusting to an almost all-white campus, others didn't.

I am from Virginia--more rural Virginia--and even there so many ages ago, we knew better than to say the "N" word. I grew up knowing that it was a very derisive racial slur and it was never, ever in my vocabulary. That was not the case with my parent's generation. And I just can't imagine someone finding a deer's head like this without reporting it to the authorities.

73 posted on 09/26/2006 8:48:09 AM PDT by twigs
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To: Dems_R_Losers
Which is pretty funny because George Allen had zero chance of winning the GOP nomination in 2008 anyway.

I certainly intend on voting for him, at least at this point and if I have the opportunity!

74 posted on 09/26/2006 8:49:18 AM PDT by twigs
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To: RexBeach
BTW,Will someone please tell me what qualifies Mr. Webb to be in the Senate?

From the US Consitution...
No person shall be a Senator who shall not have attained to the age of thirty years, and been nine years a citizen of the United States and who shall not, when elected, be an inhabitant of that state for which he shall be chosen.

That's really all there is.

75 posted on 09/26/2006 8:51:04 AM PDT by Sgt_Schultze
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To: Dems_R_Losers
Who did George Allen piss off to make them come after him like this?

Taking down George Allen could cost the Republicans the Senate. Nuff said. The fact that until now he has had, for a fairly conservative Republican, good relations with the Main Stream Media, just goes to prove that no Republican gets good press when the MSM thinks that they can advance their agenda by taking him out.

Are you paying atten Sen. McCain??? No, I didn't think so.

76 posted on 09/26/2006 8:52:17 AM PDT by Pilsner
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To: Pokey78
"Mr. Larry Sabato, as you know there is an election coming up. What is your learned opinion about it?"

"Well, having studied the trends and the current impact of the war on Iraq and the economy, I think somebody will win and somebody will lose."

"Thank you, Mr. Sabato, may we quote you on that - again?"

77 posted on 09/26/2006 8:53:02 AM PDT by KellyAdmirer
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To: twigs

Yes, I think the 1970's was a little late to run around a major American college campus spouting the N word with impunity.


78 posted on 09/26/2006 8:54:05 AM PDT by Cedric
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To: Sgt_Schultze

Is this the same guy?

http://www.centerforpolitics.org/about/staff_sabato.htm


79 posted on 09/26/2006 8:54:11 AM PDT by MarkLevinFan
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To: elc
Geez... like we all forgot the 2004 election prediction of Prof. Larry Sabato. Sabato predicted "Bush has no chance!!!" just days before the election and during the election Prof. Sabato also quoted that two states showed "WRONG" winner with the exit poll he had!!! Luckily, we still had Nationl Review Online to keep Prof. Sabato's lies intact!!! Trusted source, my b*tt...
80 posted on 09/26/2006 8:55:14 AM PDT by Toidylop
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