Keeping guns of campus is a place restriction. The type of weaponry could be construed as a manner restriction.
I understand this is a hotly contested issue with many sides. I also am saddened to see many FReepers condemning Brady law supporters for making political hay of this incident, and then turning around and trying to make political hay themselves.
My views may not be popular on this forum, but I feel obliged to say them and not posture. I don’t think the constitution really works. It has to be stretched and altered in order to reflect reality. I’m not sure if it was ever intended to really function—rather, it exists as a legitiming myth. A rationalist version of the divine right of kings.
A society is built on certain principles, that when taken literally and without moderation, spell the end of that civilization. The underlying principle of the USA is liberty; when liberty is taken to excess and becomes license (as unregulated weaponry would be, in my mind), then the damage done to the State is mortal.
But you ignored the second half of my post. The reason why we have time, place, and manner restrictions is because the act of speech, in and of itself, is harmful to others.
Again, that is simply not present with gun ownership. My owning a gun, in and of itself, is not harmful to anyone, be it in an apartment off-campus or in a dormitory on campus.
I appreciate what you are saying, but your comparison simply is not apt.
I’m not sure if it was ever intended to really function—rather, it exists as a legitiming myth. A rationalist version of the divine right of kings.
A society is built on certain principles, that when taken literally and without moderation, spell the end of that civilization. The underlying principle of the USA is liberty; when liberty is taken to excess and becomes license (as unregulated weaponry would be, in my mind), then the damage done to the State is mortal.
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Interesting contentions.
Most FREEPERS consider The Constitution pretty sacrosanct—and with good cause. It was hammered out through a process involving a lot of very reasoned and educated thought from a lot of hard experience in a fairly brutal world.
The framers and signers of The Constitution certainly created it to function and function well. Were idiot globalist judges not mangling it right and left, it would still function well. As it is, it too often seems on life-support. FREEPERS are earnestly and sometimes desperately trying to change that back to a smoother, more FREEDOM LOVING good functioning.
Yes, The Bible says that the letter of the law kills but The Spirit brings liberty. Certainly HARXIST and her other globalist/Marxist/socialist idiot tyrant friends are intent on trashing our Constitution and our culture and even the Nation that gave them birth in favor of a global tyrannical government.
Withholding guns from freedom loving people in this Nation and clearly against the Constitution is NOT a good way to protect liberty at all.
As for me, and my house, in addition to serving The Lord, we shall protect and uphold the Constitution and every patriotic citizen’s right to own and be prepared with guns and ammo—to the best of our ability as long as we have breath and energy to do so.
We don’t take kindly to folks lobbying against such.
There's a term that describes what you believe. It's called a liberal.
This is called Liberalism.
You might find this forum more to your liking.
What??? I don't know how you reach that conclusion and I have to wonder if you even know what you are saying?
The Constitution's sole purpose is to prevent tyranny and protect the rights of individuals. The 'divine right of kings" was exactly what was on the minds of the framers and specifically what they were trying to prevent.
Now I'm sure that the original framers never imagined that 230 years later that someone would walk onto a college campus and use a hand gun he probably bought legally and kill almost 50 people, but I promise you they would apply the same solution, "arm the students".
Laws that forbid the carrying of arms…disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes…Such laws make things worse for the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to encourage than to prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater confidence than an armed man.
-- Thomas Jefferson
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