Will FR embrace socialism to make way for Rudy Giuliani as a Republican presidential candidate?

vanity | April 21, 2007 | Jim Robinson

[Jim Robinson]

We've got some real challenges facing us. FR was established to fight against government corruption, overstepping, and abuse and to fight for a return to the limited constitutional government as envisioned and set forth by our founding fathers in the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution and other founding documents.

One of the biggest cases of government corruption, overstepping and abuse that I know of is its disgraceful headlong slide into a socialist hell. Our founders never intended for abortion to be the law of the land. And they never intended the Supreme Court to be a legislative body. They never intended God or religion to be written out of public life. They never intended government to be used to deny God's existence or for government to be used to force sexual perversions onto our society or into our children's education curriculum. They never intend for government to disarm the people. They never intended for government to set up sanctuary cities for illegals. They never intended government to “rule” over the people and or to take their earnings or private property or to deprive them of their constitutional rights to free speech, free religion, private property, due process, etc. They never intended government to seize the private property of private citizens through draconian asset forfeiture laws or laws allowing government to take private property from lawful owners to give to developers. Or to seize wealth and redistribute it to others. Or to provide government forced health insurance or government forced retirement systems.

All of the above are examples of ever expanding socialism and tyranny brought to us by liberals/liberalism.

FR fights against the liberals/Democrats in all of these areas and always will. Now if liberalism infiltrates into the Republican party and Republicans start promoting all this socialist garbage, do you think that I or FR will suddenly stop fighting against it? Do you think I'm going to bow down and accept abortionism, feminism, homosexualism, global warming, illegal alien lawbreakers, gun control, asset forfeiture, socialism, tyranny, totalitarianism, etc, etc, etc, just so some fancy New York liberal lawyer can become president from the Republican party?

Do you really expect me to do that?

[processing please hold]

Gentle joke, yeah sure.

[Jet Jaguar]

Jalalabad.

[RichInOC]

Trust me on this. It was a stupid question the first time.

[metmom]

You’re not kidding. Do some dishes and switch the laundry around and you’re behind a hundred posts.

[jwalsh07]

Gesundheit

[Petronski]

You should try to keep the Alfredo sauce out of your keyboard.

[Petronski]

Thailaland?

[Spiff]

I want him and his supporters to be treated fairly on this forum.

Why? We don't treat Giuliani supporters much differently than we treat Obama and Hillary supporters. For some weird reason, we treat them a little better. But that may be over now. Support a liberal on FR - not matter what party they claim to be in - and you'll get slammed. Again, why is that so hard for you to understand?

[EternalVigilance]

Have you found anything of Thompson's position on the issues or his conservatism in general, that would lead you to think he's being disingenuous?

According to John McCain's chief of staff, and the public record of events, Fred Thompson was, more than any other single individual, responsible for the passage of McCain-Feingold. To date, the only quote we have from him makes it clear that, while he knows the conservative and right thing to do - take off the limits and only require timely reporting of contributions - he "isn't ready to go there yet."

So, notwithstanding the projected wishes of his wannabe supporters, his position still hasn't changed. All he did was concede that he and his fellow combatants against free speech and the First Amendment have lost the political debate on this subject within the GOP universe.

[Jet Jaguar]

LOL

[arasina]

I'm going to miss Peach terribly. I don't agree with her about Rudy, but she's hardly a socialist.

Same here. Peach was a good cyberfriend to me even though we parted ways politically in the past couple of years.

[veronica]

FDR and Eleanor were cousins. In some cultures and some families that is, or was, the way it was done. FDR did not have his marriage annulled of course. He just built a little house for Eleanor her "lady friends", and he had his intimacies as well.

And he was elected to 4 terms in office and managed a world war. A wildly popular President.

[don-o]

Count me among those that will not vote for Rudy in the primary and most probably not in the general either.

I change my underwear daily. My principles are not boxer shorts.

Sorry. Just trying to be a little original here. Evrything has already been said.

[LowOiL]

Gesundheit

ROFLMBO... thanks I needed that...

[La Enchiladita]

But, sadly, no more fuzzy fruit....:-)

[rockrr]

Well actually it could be some of both. When you consider that reformation means “A change for the better as a result of correcting abuses” and Reaffirmation means “To affirm again” one’s stated values, goals, etc.

[stephenjohnbanker]

Good evening, fan fan!

[mkjessup]

And he was elected to 4 terms in office and managed a world war. A wildly popular President.

And thanks to FDR at Yalta, Stalin absorbed Eastern Europe into the Sovet sphere of influence.

I'm sure that was real popular with the folks in Prague, Berlin, Budapest, etc.

[EternalVigilance]

Maybe we need a FReeper pool on which Rudybot will lose control and commit FReepercide next.

[NittanyLion]

I see Luis Gonzalez is gone...