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Will FR embrace socialism to make way for Rudy Giuliani as a Republican presidential candidate?
vanity | April 21, 2007 | Jim Robinson

Posted on 04/21/2007 6:42:25 PM PDT by Jim Robinson

We've got some real challenges facing us. FR was established to fight against government corruption, overstepping, and abuse and to fight for a return to the limited constitutional government as envisioned and set forth by our founding fathers in the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution and other founding documents.

One of the biggest cases of government corruption, overstepping and abuse that I know of is its disgraceful headlong slide into a socialist hell. Our founders never intended for abortion to be the law of the land. And they never intended the Supreme Court to be a legislative body. They never intended God or religion to be written out of public life. They never intended government to be used to deny God's existence or for government to be used to force sexual perversions onto our society or into our children's education curriculum. They never intend for government to disarm the people. They never intended for government to set up sanctuary cities for illegals. They never intended government to “rule” over the people and or to take their earnings or private property or to deprive them of their constitutional rights to free speech, free religion, private property, due process, etc. They never intended government to seize the private property of private citizens through draconian asset forfeiture laws or laws allowing government to take private property from lawful owners to give to developers. Or to seize wealth and redistribute it to others. Or to provide government forced health insurance or government forced retirement systems.

All of the above are examples of ever expanding socialism and tyranny brought to us by liberals/liberalism.

FR fights against the liberals/Democrats in all of these areas and always will. Now if liberalism infiltrates into the Republican party and Republicans start promoting all this socialist garbage, do you think that I or FR will suddenly stop fighting against it? Do you think I'm going to bow down and accept abortionism, feminism, homosexualism, global warming, illegal alien lawbreakers, gun control, asset forfeiture, socialism, tyranny, totalitarianism, etc, etc, etc, just so some fancy New York liberal lawyer can become president from the Republican party?

Do you really expect me to do that?


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To: WFTR

I ended up backing Dubya in 2000, but if I were able to play God for 10 seconds, I would have Alan Keyes in the White House right now. He would have *itch-slapped Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton around so hard the video could sell as a DVD(the RNC would have made a fortune).


4,401 posted on 04/22/2007 11:18:42 PM PDT by ABG(anybody but Gore) ("We're Living In A Twilight World..."- Swingout Sister)
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To: ohioWfan
You know, it's really beyond stupid to pick on a freeper who is unabashedly pro life to play your little game with, Spiff. The sanctity of life is the most important issue to me, even above the issue of national security (and my son in being redeployed to Iraq early next year........voluntarily).

I've taken more slings and arrows for my uncompromising pro-life conservatism here than I even want to remember. I'm certainly not "picking on you" because you're pro-life or conservative. I was disagreeing with how you were trashing Free Republic and FReepers as "unprincipled" and "irresponsible". The other stuff you threw at me was purely your invention.

4,402 posted on 04/22/2007 11:19:08 PM PDT by Spiff (Rudy Giuliani Quote (NY Post, 1996) "Most of Clinton's policies are very similar to most of mine.")
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To: stephenjohnbanker

http://firefightingnews.com/article-US.cfm?articleID=27125


4,403 posted on 04/22/2007 11:21:20 PM PDT by Mojave
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To: ohioWfan; Jim Robinson
I disagree. Spiff is trying to get me banned by deliberately misprepresenting what I've said and pinging JimRob to pretend I said something I didn't

I'm not trying to get you banned. Stop playing the victim.

I didn't misrepresent what you said. I quoted it, more than once.

I pinged Jim Robinson to the post because I mentioned him in the post.

Chill.

4,404 posted on 04/22/2007 11:21:55 PM PDT by Spiff (Rudy Giuliani Quote (NY Post, 1996) "Most of Clinton's policies are very similar to most of mine.")
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To: fatima

oh... uh... You’re welcome. {blushing}


4,405 posted on 04/22/2007 11:23:24 PM PDT by Kevmo (Duncan Hunter just needs one Rudy G Campaign Video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RVBtPIrEleM)
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To: LdSentinal
You’re upset that FR doesn’t read like the NYT editorial page.
4,406 posted on 04/22/2007 11:23:44 PM PDT by Mojave
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To: EternalVigilance
Can you name some? I'm scratching my head over what seems like a parallel you're trying to draw with the Giuliani people. I don't see it at all.

After seven years? Sorry, I don't remember any names. I remember that there were people that I knew who were banned. Some may have stopped short of being banned, but after being insulted and knowing that any return of insults would result in them being banned, they left. At various times, I left for the same reason. I missed them. I think many of them were reinstated later, and others came back as things calmed.

If you don't see it, that's okay with me.

Bill

4,407 posted on 04/22/2007 11:24:34 PM PDT by WFTR (Liberty isn't for cowards)
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To: Torie
Yes. Good-bye,and best wishes.
4,408 posted on 04/22/2007 11:25:32 PM PDT by Iwo Jima ("Close the border. Then we'll talk.")
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To: Slings and Arrows

Hey, you were mentioned in this post. Who’da thunk?


4,409 posted on 04/22/2007 11:26:40 PM PDT by Kevmo (Duncan Hunter just needs one Rudy G Campaign Video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RVBtPIrEleM)
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To: WFTR

Well, my point is that it isn’t the same. If there were Keyes people banned, primarily because of their responses to EXACTLY the kind of poeple who are now dropping like flies in their love for the liberal Giuliani, that’s apples and oranges.

But anyway, have a nice evening.


4,410 posted on 04/22/2007 11:26:55 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (Laws that infringe on unalienable rights are not laws at all...they are in fact lawless edicts.)
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To: Jim Robinson

JIM, YOU ARE MY HERO!!!


4,411 posted on 04/22/2007 11:27:38 PM PDT by Clemenza (NO to Rudy in 2008! New York's Values are NOT America's Values! RUN FRED RUN!)
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To: Spiff

“I’ve taken more slings and arrows for my uncompromising pro-life conservatism here than I even want to remember”

Wimp! You only have 165,000 bullets in your chest : )


4,412 posted on 04/22/2007 11:29:03 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker ( Hunter/Thompson/Thompson/Hunter in 08! Or Rudy/Hillary if you want to murder conservatism)
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To: EternalVigilance
Got a scrap of evidence that he's changed his position?

Yes. That quote that you just posted.

4,413 posted on 04/22/2007 11:29:38 PM PDT by Spiff (Rudy Giuliani Quote (NY Post, 1996) "Most of Clinton's policies are very similar to most of mine.")
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To: oceanview
what’s the pro-life movement going to do when no more then 2 states vote to outlaw abortion for adult women in the first trimester?

Oh gee I don't know.....maybe go to work at the State level!

Did some alien craft come to earth and start sucking IQ points out of Freeper heads in the recent past?

L

4,414 posted on 04/22/2007 11:31:22 PM PDT by Lurker (Comparing 'moderate' islam to 'extremist' islam is like comparing small pox to plague.)
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To: Spiff
Yes. That quote that you just posted.

The one that acknowledges the long-held, and constitutionally correct, position of conservatives, and is prefaced by the statement "I'm not prepared to go there yet"?

4,415 posted on 04/22/2007 11:32:02 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (Laws that infringe on unalienable rights are not laws at all...they are in fact lawless edicts.)
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To: budwiesest
No,people vote their pocketbook’s
4,416 posted on 04/22/2007 11:32:41 PM PDT by fatima (Shut up Murtha)
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To: ABG(anybody but Gore)
I ended up backing Dubya in 2000, but if I were able to play God for 10 seconds, I would have Alan Keyes in the White House right now.

I was living in Texas at the time, so my support for (then) Governor Bush was irrelevant. I actually ended up voting for Pat Buchanan to protest Mr. Bush's support for the assault weapons ban. That vote was kinda funny because I later attended rallies supporting him over the mess in Florida. In 2004, I had moved to Louisiana, and my biggest concern with voting for President Bush was that no one who received my vote seemed to have won in a long time. Officially, I was not a volunteer for his campaign, but I was heavily involved with a Republican U.S. Senate campaign and ended up doing all of the GOP volunteer activities.

In any case, I still have hopes that we'll reach a point where many people will return to FR but be a little less high-handed in how they deal with criticism of their candidates. The arrogant "He'll be the nominee and if you don't vote for him you're voting for Hillary" nonsense may be gone in favor of more reasoned discussions of the issues and candidates.

Bill

4,417 posted on 04/22/2007 11:33:17 PM PDT by WFTR (Liberty isn't for cowards)
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To: Spiff
This question is worth asking again, too:

Got a quote from Fred delineating why he was wrong to ramrod CFR through?

4,418 posted on 04/22/2007 11:33:23 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (Laws that infringe on unalienable rights are not laws at all...they are in fact lawless edicts.)
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To: Mojave

“Firefighters Union Letter On Rudy Giuliani
March 8, 2007

On March 14, 2007, the IAFF will host the first bi-partisan Presidential Forum of the 2008 election cycle. No other union and very few organizations has the credibility and respect to attract top-tier candidates from both political parties. The lineup of speakers who have agreed to participate in our Forum is truly a testament to our great union and the reputation we have built as a powerful political force and a coveted endorsement.

John Edwards, John McCain, Barack Obama, Chuck Hagel, Hillary Clinton, Chris Dodd, Joe Biden, Duncan Hunter and seven other candidates will make their case before the 1,000 delegates who will be attending the Forum and to our entire membership via same-day broadcast on our web site.

Early on, the IAFF made a decision to invite all serious candidates from both political parties — except one: former New York Mayor Rudy Giuliani.

We made this decision after considerable soul-searching and close consultation with our two New York City affiliates, the Uniformed Firefighters Association Local 94 and the Uniformed Fire Officers Association Local 854, as well as our former Local 94 President and current IAFF 1st District Vice President covering New York.

The IAFF recognizes that Mayor Giuliani generally enjoys a favorable reputation as a result of his actions immediately after the tragedy of 9/11. As such, we want our affiliates and every one of our members to clearly understand the reason and rationale behind this very serious and sober decision.

Many people consider Rudy Giuliani “America’s Mayor,” and many of our members who don’t yet know the real story, may also have a positive view of him. This letter is intended to make all of our members aware of the egregious acts Mayor Giuliani committed against our members, our fallen on 9/11, and our New York City union officers following that horrific day.

Rest assured, our exclusion of Mayor Giuliani is not about any particular contractual or policy issue or disagreement, nor is it based on his unfriendly relationship with our New York City affiliates prior to 9/11 — which we will document and explain in additional correspondence later on during the campaign. In fact, we invited several candidates with whom we have had substantial disagreement on policy issues because we feel very strongly that our members have the right to hear from all candidates, not just those who tow the IAFF line.

Regrettably, the situation with former Mayor Giuliani is very different. His actions post 9/11 rise to such an offensive and personal attack on our brother and sisterhood — and directly on our union — that the IAFF does not feel Rudy Giuliani deserves an audience of IAFF leaders and members at our own Presidential Forum.

The disrespect that he exhibited to our 343 fallen FDNY brothers, their families and our New York City IAFF leadership in the wake of that tragic day has not been forgiven or forgotten.

In November 2001, our members were continuing the painful, but necessary, task of searching Ground Zero for the remains of our fallen brothers and the thousands of innocent citizens that were killed, because precious few of those who died in the terrorist attacks had been recovered at that point.

Prior to November 2001, 101 bodies or remains of fire fighters had been recovered. And those on the horrible pile at Ground Zero believed they had just found a spot in the rubble where they would find countless more that could be given proper burial.

Nevertheless, Giuliani, with the full support of his Fire Commissioner Thomas Von Essen, decided on November 2, 2001, to sharply reduce the number of those who could search for remains at any one time. There had been as many as 300 fire fighters at a time involved in search and recovery, but Giuliani cut that number to no more than 25 who could be there at once.

In conjunction with the cut in fire fighters allowed to search, Giuliani also made a conscious decision to institute a “scoop-and-dump” operation to expedite the clean-up of Ground Zero in lieu of the more time-consuming, but respectful, process of removing debris piece by piece in hope of uncovering more remains.

Mayor Giuliani’s actions meant that fire fighters and citizens who perished would either remain buried at Ground Zero forever, with no closure for families, or be removed like garbage and deposited at the Fresh Kills Landfill.

Our Local presidents at the time attempted to meet with the Mayor to stop this despicable treatment of those who perished, but he refused to even see them face-to-face.

The scoop-and-dump continued. And when hundreds of family members of the fallen joined with our affiliate leadership and members to protest Giuliani’s decision, he ordered senior officers of the New York Police Department to arrest 15 of our FDNY brothers, including a number of local elected IAFF leaders.

Giuliani modified his policy after the protest because public opinion was so strongly with our members. Ultimately, he was forced to put the fire fighters back on the pile. Our protests were later proven justified as more bodies were ultimately recovered and those families given a chance for some closure and a decent burial.

Giuliani argued that the change was for our own safety, but his argument was empty and without substance. Fire fighters had been on that pile since minutes after the twin towers fell — why all of a sudden, after nearly two months working on the pile, was Giuliani concerned about fire fighter safety?

In our view, he wasn’t really concerned. The fact is that the Mayor’s switch to a scoop-and-dump coincided with the final removal of tens of millions of dollars of gold, silver and other assets of the Bank of Nova Scotia that were buried beneath what was once the towers. Once the money was out, Giuliani sided with the developers that opposed a lengthy recovery effort, and ordered the scoop-and-dump operation so they could proceed with redevelopment.

In the first few days immediately after the disaster, Giuliani had said he was committed to the recovery of those lost “right down to the last brick.” We believed him at the time. But, what he proved with his actions is that he really meant the “last gold brick.”

Giuliani crucified fire fighters after our protest and publicly stated that our members were essentially acting like babies, that they didn’t have the market cornered on grief. His insensitive statements demonstrated his inability to grasp what members of the FDNY were experiencing.

What Giuliani showed is a disgraceful lack of respect for the fallen and those brothers still searching for them. He exposed our members and leaders to arrest. He valued the money and gold and wanted the site cleared before he left office at the end of 2001 more than he valued the lives and memories of those lost.

Our members deserved the right to continue with a full search for their lost brothers and other innocent victims. Proudly, as you know, the fire service has a code similar to the military, where we leave no one behind. Recovering even a piece of a turnout coat or helmet gave our FDNY brothers and sisters and the families of the fallen some small semblance of peace, something to honor. But hundreds remained entombed in Ground Zero when Giuliani gave up on them.

The fundamental lack of respect that Giuliani showed our FDNY members is unforgivable - and that’s why he was not invited. Our disdain for him is not about issues or a disputed contract, it is about a visceral, personal affront to the fallen, to our union and, indeed, to every one of us who has ever risked our lives by going into a burning building to save lives and property. “

And why am I not surprised?


4,419 posted on 04/22/2007 11:33:50 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker ( Hunter/Thompson/Thompson/Hunter in 08! Or Rudy/Hillary if you want to murder conservatism)
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To: EternalVigilance
The one that acknowledges the long-held, and constitutionally correct, position of conservatives, and is prefaced by the statement "I'm not prepared to go there yet"?

I think that you're reading far more into "I'm not prepared to go there yet" than anyone else is.

4,420 posted on 04/22/2007 11:34:02 PM PDT by Spiff (Rudy Giuliani Quote (NY Post, 1996) "Most of Clinton's policies are very similar to most of mine.")
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To: Spiff
I think that you're reading far more into "I'm not prepared to go there yet" than anyone else is.

I'm kinda tired of watching folks acting as if he never said it, and like he has changed his position, which he hasn't.

4,421 posted on 04/22/2007 11:35:21 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (Laws that infringe on unalienable rights are not laws at all...they are in fact lawless edicts.)
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To: gpapa

I believe NGRY has been banned twice while posting on the same thread. Anyone want to guess what the other screenname was?


4,422 posted on 04/22/2007 11:35:37 PM PDT by Pan_Yan (All grey areas are fabrications.)
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To: Mojave

It totally ticked me off when Rudy’s campaign and his supporters here tried to pass of the statement from the firefighter’s union as being partisan. Yes, the union as a whole is liberal, but the NYC chapter who submitted the reports on which that statement was based endorsed George Bush at the 2004 convention.


4,423 posted on 04/22/2007 11:36:56 PM PDT by Elyse (I refuse to feed the crocodile.)
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To: EternalVigilance
Got a quote from Fred delineating why he was wrong to ramrod CFR through?

No, I don't. I'm interested in hearing more about what he has to say on the issue. Given his good, conservative history as a Republican Senator, I don't believe that his mistaken support of CFR is a disqualifier. While I'm not thrilled with President Bush right now, given the alternatives (Rudy McRomney) if he was running I'd vote for him again and he SIGNED CFR into law. This really is a case of getting 80% to 90% of what I want in a candidate. I'm not going to disqualify him just because I can't get that last 10% from him.

4,424 posted on 04/22/2007 11:38:59 PM PDT by Spiff (Rudy Giuliani Quote (NY Post, 1996) "Most of Clinton's policies are very similar to most of mine.")
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To: WFTR
I think it will lead to a lot more measured responses, certainly from me. I’ve argued with the Rudy people both for sport and from principle. For a long time I refused to answer any critical posts at all here. I just posted and moved on. But these Rudy wars have made me extra cranky, and had me joining the food fights. I liked it better the other way.
4,425 posted on 04/22/2007 11:39:21 PM PDT by Luke21 (No Rudy. No way.)
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To: Spiff

Also, Mr. Thompson’s comments don’t even begin to address whether he has repented of his support for the egregious anti-First Amendment electioneering provisions of the “Bipartisan Campaign Reform Act.” There is no evidence that I am aware of that would show that he has done so.


4,426 posted on 04/22/2007 11:39:43 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (Laws that infringe on unalienable rights are not laws at all...they are in fact lawless edicts.)
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To: EternalVigilance
I'm kinda tired of watching folks acting as if he never said it, and like he has changed his position, which he hasn't.

You're certainly entitled to your opinion.

4,427 posted on 04/22/2007 11:39:54 PM PDT by Spiff (Rudy Giuliani Quote (NY Post, 1996) "Most of Clinton's policies are very similar to most of mine.")
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To: Hildy
What unknown milquetoast congressman am I backing? I honestly don't know, and so I would be ever so grateful if you could enlighten me on this point.

All that I am certain about at this point is that I would rather you not be part of any aspect of the defense of myself or my country, as you are clearly not up to the task. Just clear out, and let us Patriots take care of business.

I have heard that Costa Rica is just lovely. Why don't you go there, and when we have secured everything for you, come back and enjoy the benefits of our labor?
4,428 posted on 04/22/2007 11:42:17 PM PDT by Iwo Jima ("Close the border. Then we'll talk.")
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To: CharlesWayneCT

That I know (updated again):

Fierce Allegiance
writeblock
Mia T.
FairOpinion
quidnunk
Peach
KATIE-O
habs4ever
Luis Gonzalez
CeltJewLibertarian
central scrutinizer
stuned beeber

liberty4alland4ever
WestVirginiaRebel

Add:
NGRY


4,429 posted on 04/22/2007 11:42:26 PM PDT by Kevmo (Duncan Hunter just needs one Rudy G Campaign Video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RVBtPIrEleM)
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To: All

OK, time for me to say g’nite. Milestone day in freeper lore.


4,430 posted on 04/22/2007 11:45:55 PM PDT by Kevmo (Duncan Hunter just needs one Rudy G Campaign Video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RVBtPIrEleM)
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To: stephenjohnbanker

Great post.


4,431 posted on 04/22/2007 11:47:05 PM PDT by This Just In
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To: KATIE-O

I haven’t been around much lately and missed some good stuff. I know she’s gone, but I have to post about this.

“This is still America and we are still free to THINK and to vote for the candidate of our choice without being called Liberals, Socialists, Abortionist Pigs, Asswipes, and other demeaning names.”

She hasn’t a clue about America. If you support a leftist, then you will be branded a leftist. It’s freedom of expression, not freedom from everyone else’s expression.

Then there’s the oft misused “don’t judge” line.

At least we are getting these people who have been using the word “conservative” as if it’s dirty into the open.


4,432 posted on 04/22/2007 11:47:16 PM PDT by kenth (I got tired of my last tagline...)
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To: Spiff
My advice is to dig a lot deeper, and demand a lot more. Otherwise, we're going to be stuck with Bush III. To some, that may be enough. Damned shame if it is, though. That will mean that, even if he loses the nomination, Rudy McRomney will have succeeded in pulling the party to the left, or at the very least, leaving it stagnating in the swamps of the status quo.

Someone needs to ask Thompson if he will support this:

http://www.cfif.org/htdocs/freedomline/current/in_our_opinion/first_amendment_restoration.htm

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE

March 8, 2004

Contact: Marshall Manson

xxx.xxx.xxxx

Center Backs ‘First Amendment Restoration Act’

Urges Congress to Strike Limits on Free Speech ALEXANDRIA, VA – The Center for Individual Freedom today announced its support for H.R.3801, the First Amendment Restoration Act of 2004. The bill, introduced by Rep. Roscoe Bartlett (R-MD), would repeal provisions of the Bipartisan Campaign Reform Act of 2002 (BCRA) which silence interest groups in the days leading up to elections.

"This bill begins to repair the damage that BCRA did to our First Amendment rights," said Marshall Manson, the Center’s Vice President of Public Affairs. "Our founders specifically sought to protect political speech and the right to criticize government. BCRA undermines the First Amendment as it silences organizations like ours at times when such speech is most important. The Center supports this bill, and any other attempts to undo BCRA’s damage."

BCRA forces labor unions, corporations, non-profit groups, and others to pay for "electioneering communications" through Political Action Committees with contributions subject to federal limits. Electioneering communications include any broadcast, cable, or satellite communication that refers to a clearly identified federal candidate within thirty days of a primary or sixty days of a general election.

"Government should not be in the business of regulating, in any way, what citizens say about government. And in the case of BCRA, we’ve gone beyond regulation to brazen prevention of speech. It’s a direct attack on citizens’ individual liberty," said Manson. "Since the Courts won’t act to protect our rights, it’s time for Congress to do so."

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The Center for Individual Freedom is a nonpartisan constitutional advocacy group dedicated to protecting and defending individual freedoms and rights in the legal, legislative and educational arenas. The Center has been a consistent opponent of BCRA and was a plaintiff in McConnell v. FEC.

4,433 posted on 04/22/2007 11:47:55 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (Laws that infringe on unalienable rights are not laws at all...they are in fact lawless edicts.)
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To: Spiff
You're certainly entitled to your opinion.

It's an objective one, based on his own words. Words mean stuff.

4,434 posted on 04/22/2007 11:49:58 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (Laws that infringe on unalienable rights are not laws at all...they are in fact lawless edicts.)
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To: Kevmo

Rots of Love.


4,435 posted on 04/22/2007 11:51:02 PM PDT by fatima (Shut up Murtha)
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To: Spiff

If candidates are not held to account now on these critical issues, the price that will have to be paid later will be very large.


4,436 posted on 04/22/2007 11:51:44 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (Laws that infringe on unalienable rights are not laws at all...they are in fact lawless edicts.)
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To: Kevmo

My guess Angry.


4,437 posted on 04/22/2007 11:52:00 PM PDT by fatima (Shut up Murtha)
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To: This Just In

No rocket science here.

Rudy is a P O S !


4,438 posted on 04/22/2007 11:52:19 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker ( Hunter/Thompson/Thompson/Hunter in 08! Or Rudy/Hillary if you want to murder conservatism)
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To: Mojave

Nothing new for POS Rudy : )


4,439 posted on 04/22/2007 11:55:33 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker ( Hunter/Thompson/Thompson/Hunter in 08! Or Rudy/Hillary if you want to murder conservatism)
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To: politicalwit
Henry the eighth
Sure had trouble
Short term wives
Long beard stubble...
Burma Shave



OK, fine.


Free! Free!
A trip to Mars!
For 10,000
Empty jars
Burma Shave
4,440 posted on 04/22/2007 11:55:36 PM PDT by dukakis kerry the dream team
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To: stephenjohnbanker

“No rocket science here.

Rudy is a P O S !”

I would venture to say that a rock could have figured that out.


4,441 posted on 04/22/2007 11:55:47 PM PDT by This Just In
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To: Mo1

You’re tired of that “shit”? What you are really tired of is this thing we call “America.” Shame on you. SHAME.


4,442 posted on 04/22/2007 11:57:06 PM PDT by Iwo Jima ("Close the border. Then we'll talk.")
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To: Kevmo

I don’t know if it was a result of this thread, but zarf was recently banned.


4,443 posted on 04/22/2007 11:57:28 PM PDT by Rastus
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To: This Just In

A low I.Q. rock : )


4,444 posted on 04/22/2007 11:57:46 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker ( Hunter/Thompson/Thompson/Hunter in 08! Or Rudy/Hillary if you want to murder conservatism)
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To: stephenjohnbanker

G’night all.


4,445 posted on 04/23/2007 12:01:29 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker ( Hunter/Thompson/Thompson/Hunter in 08! Or Rudy/Hillary if you want to murder conservatism)
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To: Iwo Jima

That’s my friend,You have me crying and who the hell are you.


4,446 posted on 04/23/2007 12:03:58 AM PDT by fatima (Shut up Murtha)
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To: stephenjohnbanker

I am sorta weary of that article until I get the overtime pay loss these union men suffered. Not a Rudy fan as my past post will prove, but just a person that wants to see both sides of the coin.


4,447 posted on 04/23/2007 12:07:01 AM PDT by LowOiL (Paul wrote, "Let love be without hypocrisy. Abhor what is evil" (Rom. 12:9))
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To: Torie
Sayonara. I'll be sitting here in my $1,000,000 +++ mortgage free home, as befits a "shitty incompetent lawyer," and posting on FreeRepublic long after your sorry incompetent ass has gone.

Are we both happy now? I know that one of us is.
4,448 posted on 04/23/2007 12:09:56 AM PDT by Iwo Jima ("Close the border. Then we'll talk.")
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To: Iwo Jima

Prove it.


4,449 posted on 04/23/2007 12:14:23 AM PDT by fatima (Shut up Murtha)
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To: LowOiL

Rudy is a con man POS......Unions notwithstanding!


4,450 posted on 04/23/2007 12:16:35 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker ( Hunter/Thompson/Thompson/Hunter in 08! Or Rudy/Hillary if you want to murder conservatism)
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