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Will FR embrace socialism to make way for Rudy Giuliani as a Republican presidential candidate?
vanity | April 21, 2007 | Jim Robinson

Posted on 04/21/2007 6:42:25 PM PDT by Jim Robinson

We've got some real challenges facing us. FR was established to fight against government corruption, overstepping, and abuse and to fight for a return to the limited constitutional government as envisioned and set forth by our founding fathers in the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution and other founding documents.

One of the biggest cases of government corruption, overstepping and abuse that I know of is its disgraceful headlong slide into a socialist hell. Our founders never intended for abortion to be the law of the land. And they never intended the Supreme Court to be a legislative body. They never intended God or religion to be written out of public life. They never intended government to be used to deny God's existence or for government to be used to force sexual perversions onto our society or into our children's education curriculum. They never intend for government to disarm the people. They never intended for government to set up sanctuary cities for illegals. They never intended government to “rule” over the people and or to take their earnings or private property or to deprive them of their constitutional rights to free speech, free religion, private property, due process, etc. They never intended government to seize the private property of private citizens through draconian asset forfeiture laws or laws allowing government to take private property from lawful owners to give to developers. Or to seize wealth and redistribute it to others. Or to provide government forced health insurance or government forced retirement systems.

All of the above are examples of ever expanding socialism and tyranny brought to us by liberals/liberalism.

FR fights against the liberals/Democrats in all of these areas and always will. Now if liberalism infiltrates into the Republican party and Republicans start promoting all this socialist garbage, do you think that I or FR will suddenly stop fighting against it? Do you think I'm going to bow down and accept abortionism, feminism, homosexualism, global warming, illegal alien lawbreakers, gun control, asset forfeiture, socialism, tyranny, totalitarianism, etc, etc, etc, just so some fancy New York liberal lawyer can become president from the Republican party?

Do you really expect me to do that?


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To: Wormwood
Sheesh. Since when do we care about what the liberals think of us? They hate us. Always have, always will.

The question is, will conservatism ever again have a chance in this country if we knowingly elect an abortion/gay agenda/anti-gun activist to the presidency from the conservative party. The GOP will be nothing but a joke. A sad sick joke. And our causes go down the tubes.

9,661 posted on 04/25/2007 4:41:32 PM PDT by Jim Robinson
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To: wagglebee

“I do not believe I have proposed anything that is contrary to what has been considered Republican principle. It is at the same time the very basis of conservatism. It is time to reassert that principle and raise it to full view. And if there are those who cannot subscribe to these principles, then let them go their way.”


9,662 posted on 04/25/2007 4:42:01 PM PDT by DCPatriot ("It aint what you don't know that kills you. It's what you know that aint so" Theodore Sturgeon))
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To: Spiff

$25.00 pledged from here in support of JimRob’s dedication to true conservative ideals. The Giuliani name should never be spoken here except in derision.


9,663 posted on 04/25/2007 4:42:28 PM PDT by Doohickey (Rudolph Giuliani: metro-American)
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To: Jim Robinson

Your demeanor has been far from professional - something I would expect from the forum owner. I think that your hateful language and harangues have shocked many of us. As a gun-totin, abortion-hating gal, I’m appalled at the vitriol against fellow Republicans. You can count me out of here as a statistic.


9,664 posted on 04/25/2007 4:42:39 PM PDT by debg
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To: Kevmo
Amen.

This site is dying an ugly death, and it makes me very sad.

9,665 posted on 04/25/2007 4:42:47 PM PDT by Finger Monkey (H.R. 25, Fair Tax Act - A consumption tax which replaces the income tax, SS tax, death tax, etc.)
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To: NoGrayZone

Yhello


9,666 posted on 04/25/2007 4:43:03 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: mkjessup
WHOO HOOOO!!!

Thank you, mkjessup!!!

9,667 posted on 04/25/2007 4:43:05 PM PDT by Brad’s Gramma (DUNCAN HUNTER FOR PRESIDENT! http://www.gohunter08.com/Home.aspx)
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To: Iwo Jima
Thanks Imo Jima,

I was sort of riding the fence, until my fellow conservatives here
exposed Rudy as the abortion supporting gun grabbing liberal that he really is.

Voting for abortion is against my religion and principals.
I would rather fight and lose than somehow "win" without a clear conscience.

9,668 posted on 04/25/2007 4:43:20 PM PDT by No Blue States
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To: The Coopster

it’s for disagreeing on maybe just a few things, after which they are branded as liberals, when their history clearly shows otherwise.
***It’s not just for disagreeing. It’s for showing nastiness, running down conservatives to build their candidate up, berating JimRob, breaking the rules etc. It’s for their BAD BEHAVIOR. Just read through the thread. You’ll see it. If I were the owner of the site and someone called me the stuff that’s been called, I would have acted sooner than JimRob. He’s shown amazing patience. One example: CeltJew Libertarian called JimRob a closet homosexual several weeks ago. But he didn’t get the boot until a couple of days ago and he deserved it (It was on another thread). Read through the recent events before you come to a conclusion like that.


9,669 posted on 04/25/2007 4:43:48 PM PDT by Kevmo (Duncan Hunter just needs one Rudy G Campaign Video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RVBtPIrEleM)
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To: Jeff Head
Well, to begin with, I was posting to someone else over this issue and do not know you. But that is fine, you have chosen to respond to me.

Really? Here's the post I chose to respond to:

To: BykrBayb; DCPatriot; Registered; 68 grunt
Even though I have been diametrically opposed to them over this, I was never on the receiving end of attack posts...but that’s just my experience.

Yes, well, others have been on the receiving end of their attacks. Grunt called me a butch at least 15 times on this thread, which was right in keeping with his posting history, as was his accusation that I'm a lesbian. I don't recall being on the receiving end of Registered's vitriol, but others were. I don't have to be the target to understand that it was wrong. I don't approve of others being abused, as long as it's not me. I don't feed the alligator, hoping to be eaten last.

All of the liberals who have gotten the zot had it coming to them. And Free Republic is already a better place because of it. Some of them were nastier than others, but they all competed for the "honor."

9,670 posted on 04/25/2007 4:43:55 PM PDT by BykrBayb (Be careful what you ask for, and even more careful what you demand. Þ)
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To: Chena

Oh be quiet. You live in Alaska.

:)


9,671 posted on 04/25/2007 4:44:11 PM PDT by Brad’s Gramma (DUNCAN HUNTER FOR PRESIDENT! http://www.gohunter08.com/Home.aspx)
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To: No Blue States

LOL. Put a ferret on his head.


9,672 posted on 04/25/2007 4:44:45 PM PDT by Beagle8U (FreeRepublic -- One stop shopping ....... Its the Conservative Super Walmart for news .)
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To: Finger Monkey
This site is dying an ugly death, and it makes me very sad.

Actually, this site is showing more life than it has in years. Additionally, IMO, you were already sad.

9,673 posted on 04/25/2007 4:44:49 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (Woe to those who call evil good, and good evil; Who put darkness for light, and light for darkness)
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To: DCPatriot

This speech was given shortly before Reagan decided to “break” Reagan’s “Eleventh Commandment” and challenge an incumbent Republican president for the GOP nomination. And it is quite possibly the finest defense of conservatism EVER put forward.


9,674 posted on 04/25/2007 4:44:59 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: rbmillerjr

I think he is making a mistake by waiting so long but he has probably thought it all out.


9,675 posted on 04/25/2007 4:45:01 PM PDT by af_vet_1981 (Waiting for Samson)
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To: Finger Monkey

I disagree. This site is going through surgery and will be stronger as a result of this.


9,676 posted on 04/25/2007 4:45:03 PM PDT by Kevmo (Duncan Hunter just needs one Rudy G Campaign Video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RVBtPIrEleM)
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To: Finger Monkey

FR’s not dying. It’s retrenching itself, and preparing for the battle of the next year and a half. It’ll be ugly, and it’ll be hard. But it’s necessary.

}:-)4


9,677 posted on 04/25/2007 4:45:32 PM PDT by Moose4 (Yoiks, and away!)
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To: Bigh4u2

I’ve watched this from the beginning.

And in your individual case, you may be right.

But there are an equal number of instigators on both ends. Anyone who acts like it was only the fault of the “Evil Rudy Supporters” simply isn’t being honest about things.


9,678 posted on 04/25/2007 4:45:50 PM PDT by The Coopster
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To: 1COUNTER-MORTER-68
>> How many times did’ya have to shoot em’ ??...;0)

Aim for their heinie this time. That's the seat of their brains... and vice versa.

9,679 posted on 04/25/2007 4:46:05 PM PDT by T'wit (Visitors: you come here expecting a turkey shoot, and then you find out that you are the turkey.)
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To: RobFromGa

I will never understand you people. If you don’t like the level of discourse, quit posting here.

For the life of me, I don’t know why you hang around and gripe. It is a conservative forum.

Conservatives do not like Rudy, or Hillary, or Obama, Edwards or Gore.

There are two sides. Many around here do not understand why you feel it so necessary to try to sell damaged goods to conservatives. Most of us have been, insulted, had our faith made fun of, told we don’t matter, so WTH do you expect?

You need to read the homepage, and quit acting like you haven’t got a clue. I think JR has made his point too many times, too well, to the hard of hearing!

If you have to suffer Hillary, blame the Republican Party and leave good people alone.


9,680 posted on 04/25/2007 4:46:21 PM PDT by dforest (Fighting the new liberal Conservatism. The Left foot in the GOP door.)
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