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Ron Paul’s Impact on The Election (Semi Barf Alert)
Reuters ^ | July 24, 2007 | Ron Chusid

Posted on 07/29/2007 6:22:19 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

Yesterday I looked at the Ron Paul phenomenon as an expression of the anti-big government sentiments among some people in each of the major parties. Such voters have limited options among the other candidates this year. While the Paul supporters commenting vigorously disagreed, I also expressed the belief that Paul cannot win the Republican nomination. What if I am right? What will his supporters do?

It is hard to see Paul supporters being loyal Republicans and backing their party’s winner–which should be a matter of concern for the Republicans. If I was a GOP leader I’d be questioning Paul’s loyalty to the party and pressing him for a pledge to support the nominee and encourage his supporters to do the same should he lose. Of course it is questionable as to how many votes he could deliver to the authoritarian war mongers who dominate the Republican field should he be willing to do so.

I don’t even know that Paul would agree to support another Republican candidate. Would Paul jump ship and run as a Libertarian again? If not, will the Libertarian Party candidate benefit from what Paul has done? That will depend partially upon the candidate, but the LP will have the problem that many people are reluctant to vote for a third party which has no real chance of winning.

If they are reluctant to support a minor party, will many Paul supporters back the Democratic winner as the best shot of having an anti-war candidate win? That will depend a lot on the nominee. Richardson already has some libertarian support but remains a real long shot. Edwards will have a real tough time attracting any libertarian support, between his previous support for he war and Patriot Act when in the Senate to his current populist economic policies. Clinton will also have problems here, but I could see Obama managing to find a way to bridge liberal ideas with libertarian ideals as he has shown he is willing to avoid pandering to traditional Democratic special interests.

While I don’t think Ron Paul has any real chance of winning the Republican nomination, his candidacy is doing far better than might have been expected initially, and he very well may have a lasting impact on the race. Between the out right libertarians, as well as the more traditional conservatives who are becoming increasingly outraged by the current Republican leadership, there will be a number of Republicans looking for an alternative. Whether the Democrats can become a majority party will depend partially on whether they can attract a portion of these voters. To do so will mean not only opposing the war but showing they recognize that the 2000’s are not the 1930’s and their old New Deal coalition is long gone.


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To: elhombrelibre

voted no on deterring arms....

thats good because if he had voted yes, w may not have been able to have westinghouse sell nuclear technology to china. we want to stop iran and yet we are selling them reactors. 5-8 billion dollars.

like clinton like bush.


61 posted on 07/29/2007 7:18:58 PM PDT by rineaux (the powers that be are laughing at us)
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To: elhombrelibre
"Voted NO on making it a crime to harm a fetus during another crime. "
Just proves Ron Paul is NO conservative!
62 posted on 07/29/2007 7:18:58 PM PDT by jrooney (The democrats are the friend of our enemy and the enemy of our friends. Attack them, not GW!)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

So many Paul haters. They behave like liberals.


63 posted on 07/29/2007 7:19:24 PM PDT by Abcdefg
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To: elhombrelibre

And some people here consider him the “soul of conservatism”!


64 posted on 07/29/2007 7:19:30 PM PDT by jveritas (God bless our brave troops and President Bush.)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

“Paul is polling strong in N.H. and it’s possible he could come in 2nd in Iowa, after Tommy Thompson.”

From where to you get this info?


65 posted on 07/29/2007 7:21:03 PM PDT by Grunthor (Oh God give me patience, strength and forgiveness)
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To: elhombrelibre
Voted NO on making it a crime to harm a fetus during another crime.

Not a Federal matter.

66 posted on 07/29/2007 7:21:09 PM PDT by AdamSelene235 (Truth has become so rare and precious she is always attended to by a bodyguard of lies.)
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To: ontap

Ron Paul has been a Republican for a long time.


67 posted on 07/29/2007 7:21:33 PM PDT by Abcdefg
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
Why do you think there are lots of folks supporting Paul?

LOL... as I said before you are really delusional.

68 posted on 07/29/2007 7:22:19 PM PDT by jveritas (God bless our brave troops and President Bush.)
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To: Abcdefg

He’s a RINO!


69 posted on 07/29/2007 7:22:47 PM PDT by ontap (Just another backstabbing conservative)
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To: jveritas
"And some people here consider him the “soul of conservatism”!"

Not many JV. Their numbers encompass DU members, Kos kids, sorosites, code pinkos and some Libertarians. Ron Paul is the Rosie O'Donnell and Cindy Sheehan of truth in the WOT, the attack of 9/11 and foreign policy.
70 posted on 07/29/2007 7:24:29 PM PDT by jrooney (The democrats are the friend of our enemy and the enemy of our friends. Attack them, not GW!)
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To: jveritas
No EEE, you are delusional for thinking that the GOP is afraid of Ron Paul, get real man, he is absolutely no one and the GOP is not losing sleep afraid that Ron Paul and his folks will take over the party.

Yeah, that's why the RNC has consistently supported his opponent in almost all of his races, and they supported the establishment hack over the real conservative in Georgia, who won BTW.

The GOP will embrace liberal turds like Giuliani or Specter but they'll kick the guy who actually carries out their beliefs to the curb.

71 posted on 07/29/2007 7:24:39 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist
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To: jrooney
"Just proves Ron Paul is NO conservative!"

Sure he is. Ron is the most conservative candidate in the race.

72 posted on 07/29/2007 7:25:12 PM PDT by Abcdefg
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To: Abcdefg

Ron Paul has been a LIBERTARIAN a long time. He uses the Republican party to give legitimacy to that.


73 posted on 07/29/2007 7:25:30 PM PDT by Pistolshot (Every woman, who can, should learn to shoot, and carry a gun.)
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To: Abcdefg

He is NO republican. He is a Libertarian posing as a republican to get elected. He is a RINO and his days are numbered as such.


74 posted on 07/29/2007 7:25:43 PM PDT by jrooney (The democrats are the friend of our enemy and the enemy of our friends. Attack them, not GW!)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

“Apparently, FReepers have no problem with a pro-abortion, pro-homosexual liberal Mayor running as a Republican”

I may be a newby but I saw the tail end of the Rudy wars a couple months back and given that they are few and far between around here these days I’d have to call bullsh*t on that statement.


75 posted on 07/29/2007 7:26:22 PM PDT by Grunthor (Oh God give me patience, strength and forgiveness)
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To: jrooney

I know JR; but his supporters are a sad case of extreme delusion.


76 posted on 07/29/2007 7:27:00 PM PDT by jveritas (God bless our brave troops and President Bush.)
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To: Abcdefg
So many Paul haters. They behave like liberals.

I actually have more respect for liberals than I do for conservatives who trash other conservatives.

77 posted on 07/29/2007 7:28:05 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist
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To: jveritas

Yes JV they are. The enemy is within the gates.


78 posted on 07/29/2007 7:28:34 PM PDT by jrooney (The democrats are the friend of our enemy and the enemy of our friends. Attack them, not GW!)
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To: ontap
"He’s a RINO!"

He's not what the RNC socialists want because he is too conservative, but he has been a Republican for a long time.

79 posted on 07/29/2007 7:28:36 PM PDT by Abcdefg
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

george w is turning out to be a real conservative. he will do a dog and pony show for the republican base, but the reality is, he wants the clintons back in.

who wrote the patriot act? written under clinton, delivered by w.

immigration (amnesty) bill. he has arlen pushing for it again. he really is losing his base. that is why many in his corner are hoping for another attack on this country. how sick is that??


80 posted on 07/29/2007 7:30:33 PM PDT by rineaux (the powers that be are laughing at us)
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