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I'm not going to call Bill O'Reilly a liar... yet, but...

Posted on 07/31/2007 8:35:37 PM PDT by Jim Robinson

I'm not going to call Bill O'Reilly a liar... yet, but... on his TV show today, he read off a laundry list of ridiculous "hate" statements like "I hate blacks," "Hillary should be assassinated" and "homosexuals are dogs" that he said he personally found on Free Republic and claims that they were posted here today. I do not believe that. I doubt that he personally logged on to FR and I doubt he found any such thing posted here today.

Who knows what we may have missed and is buried deep in our archives of millions of posts, but our readers do a pretty good job of alerting us to anything out of bounds that is posted and we pull it. Also, one of our readers found a couple of the quotes he alleges, and if they are the ones O'Reilly is complaining about, he took them way out of context. They were simply quotes in the articles posted not statements posted by FReepers.

As soon as he provides me a list of the alleged posts and their URLs, I'll believe him. If he doesn't... then... well, guess he'll deserve to be known as what he is.


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To: Jim Robinson

BOR, here is a question for you.Just what the hell are you smoking over there in your office.Camparing FR to some left wing kook site is over the top.What has got into you?


121 posted on 07/31/2007 9:17:24 PM PDT by HANG THE EXPENSE (Defeat liberalism, its the right thing to do for America.)
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To: kristinn

Don’t hold your breath my friend. new reporters are about as honest as politicians. Frankly I don’t watch TV and I really know nothing about him . Who cares what he thinks. I get my info on FR .


122 posted on 07/31/2007 9:17:39 PM PDT by sonic109
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To: Jim Robinson
Furthermore, if any such statements are posted to FR, they will be removed immediately as soon as he provides the links. O’Reilly attempts to use what might turn out to be one post in a million to paint the entire site as a hate site and our posters as racists. That is disingenuous reporting at best.

Thats what I see. On a site this big there is bound to be a few vitriolic post. I mean how many post are there here? A million, millions? He is using the tactic of some group like the SPLC to try and broadly paint this site into a corner. You can't come to this site everyday even if you don't see every post and not know the tenor of the site. Sure people get heated sometimes after all it is politics. But a hate site in the sense of constantly using racial epithets and calling for violence is not here. I wouldn't be surprised if there isn't some type of ulterior motive here.

123 posted on 07/31/2007 9:18:02 PM PDT by Altura Ct.
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To: Guyin4Os

He fancies himself a populist. An every man’s man. Telling it like it is, no matter who it offends. In the Huey Long tradition. He forgot one thing. No one cares what he thinks, no one listens to what he says, and no one is going to follow his advice just because he gives it. All he’s left with is a message for no one. Night after night. Sorta like Keith Olberman. Who the hell cares what his opinion is?


124 posted on 07/31/2007 9:18:02 PM PDT by small voice in the wilderness ( Bumper sticker idea: Hillary/Obama Nation '08. Let the desolation begin)
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To: Chena

FRiend,

The ground rules are pretty well upfront. I haven’t seen a gratuitously racist post last longer than about ten minutes. If BOR has a case, it’s probably from Opposition Research types caching FR posts every other minute.

His rhetorical (and legal) legs are thinner than a stork’s.

Be well.


125 posted on 07/31/2007 9:18:20 PM PDT by IslandJeff (Jeremiah 2:14-22)
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To: Jim Robinson

While BOR is wrong about what is allowed here on FR, the insults from FReepers about HIM must have ticked him off. He referred to seeing some of them. I have never seen racist hate-filled posts like what he mentioned that ever lasted more than a couple of minutes. And that happened only once or twice in the years I have been around. The mods and the FReepers police the site very effectively. However, it is commonplace to see insults to BOR go unchecked. It is a critique of his show and he should take note.

Kristinn did a good job representing FR. Good luck to you both in handling this insult to FR.


126 posted on 07/31/2007 9:18:31 PM PDT by tioga
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To: Jim Robinson

JR, BOR does not know the difference between a thread (posted article) and a posted response from a Freeper. He is obviously unfamiliar with the format here.


127 posted on 07/31/2007 9:19:15 PM PDT by gidget7 ( Vote for the Arsenal of Democracy, because America RUNS on Duncan!)
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To: IslandJeff

It’s probably a troll setting us up if they manage to catch anything.


128 posted on 07/31/2007 9:19:20 PM PDT by tioga
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To: bboop

I once said my queer eyed dog Hillary hated black cars before her death. Apologies. I’ll take the bullet.


129 posted on 07/31/2007 9:19:33 PM PDT by samadams2000 (Someone important make......The Call!)
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To: Jim Robinson; All

Subject: Document your FreeRepublic Sources, Mr. O’Reilly
To: O’Reilly@foxnews.com

Mr. O’Reilly,

Don’t use the FreeRepublic.com **Internet forum** as a whipping boy, in
order to posture as “fair and balanced.” Document your accusation — on
your program and Web site. There is a big difference between careful
volunteer censorship and the condoning of malicious and malevolent speech
of the kind one may see on KOS, etc.

Arlen Williams
West Baraboo, WI

PS:

I have been a poster in the FreeRepublic.com **Internet forum** for years
and do not recall something of the offensive nature and extent as, “I hate
blacks.”

I have found many insults of those who are an insult to America, even ones
that go beyond decency, but that is the way of an Internet forum. And I
have found many removed posts. Look at forums on any topic in just about
any Web site that holds them and you will be educated about the nature of
an Internet forum.


130 posted on 07/31/2007 9:19:43 PM PDT by unspun (FREEP Bill O'Reilly about Iraq)
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To: Chena

The burden of proof is on O’Reilly to substantiate his claims that today posters posted the comments he quoted.

Otherwise, you seem to be advocating something along the lines of fake but accurate.


131 posted on 07/31/2007 9:20:22 PM PDT by KJC1
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To: Jim Robinson

I saw Bill O’Reilly’s comments tonight. What rubbish.


132 posted on 07/31/2007 9:20:25 PM PDT by mohresearcher
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To: kristinn
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133 posted on 07/31/2007 9:20:55 PM PDT by RonDog
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To: Jim Robinson
If necessary, I'd be happy to contribute as O'Reilly suggested.

But right now, I'd be happy to contribute my little bit to a lawyer, demanding that O'Reilly document his charges.

134 posted on 07/31/2007 9:21:49 PM PDT by unspun (FREEP Bill O'Reilly about Iraq)
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To: Jim Robinson

What happened with that Claim with the City of Fresno,arising from the Human Relations Commission’s news release.


135 posted on 07/31/2007 9:22:02 PM PDT by mdittmar (May God watch over those who serve,and have served,to keep us free)
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To: padre35

Thank you for your comments.


136 posted on 07/31/2007 9:23:04 PM PDT by Chena (“If you would win a man to your cause, first convince him that you are his sincere friend”-LINCOLN)
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To: Jim Robinson
(rhetorical) Does BOR know the difference between a bona fide FR post and a troll who may have salted the mine? I suspect similar could be said over at KOS too.

You're right, JR. Give us the URL's so we can see the evidence and police the bad guys as we always have.

137 posted on 07/31/2007 9:23:14 PM PDT by llevrok (I voted for George Bush - not Jorge Arbusto.)
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To: mysterio
“I’m looking now. All I’m finding are articles, not comments.”

Exactly right, BOR is not familiar with the format, and does not know the difference between an article and a comment. That in itself would have been a simple mistake, had he not claimed to know the site. He obviously doesn’t, and should have made it his business to know that, before he aired anything

138 posted on 07/31/2007 9:23:47 PM PDT by gidget7 ( Vote for the Arsenal of Democracy, because America RUNS on Duncan!)
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To: pickrell

They are and I applaud that. But if there was any hate speach about the government on Moveon or Cindy Sheloser do you think they would moderate that kind of speech? No they would not. The people that run Freerepublic should tell Bill O Reilly to kiss their ass. This website is run very responsibly and fair. Maybe Bill should learn about fair and ballanced here.


139 posted on 07/31/2007 9:24:55 PM PDT by lndrvr1972
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To: tioga

More than likely, and certainly plausible.

However, if action is taken, there’s this neat little thing called “discovery”, whereupon FR merely reveals their server logs to counsel.

It’ll never make it to trial. FNC owes FR bigtime, if JR could sew its case shut tightly.


140 posted on 07/31/2007 9:25:21 PM PDT by IslandJeff (Jeremiah 2:14-22)
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