Posted on 02/20/2008 12:49:56 AM PST by Bob J
Thank you. I appreciate it.
(Sigh), the election is in November, none of the conventions have taken place. Technically no one in either party has the nomination yet. The tends are clear so that McCain is the probable republican nominee. On the Dem side it is not only unclear but could be opposite of the popular vote. Given the Clinton's propensity for rewriting reality, they could steal with money etc. even delegates. The Clintons are currently seeking to subvert, pledged delegates to make them switch to vote for them, though elected for Obama.
Could we let McCain the candidate actually campaign for a while so as to draw people to vote for him instead of lecturing us why we should , hold our nose, wear a barf bag, plus gas mask, and vote for him.
I will probably vote for him, but that is in November. If you want enthusiastic support more that 8 months in advance, it is not going to happen. Please give it a rest. Let the candidate tell us why, not surrogates.
Some of us are burying our conservative hopes for a genuine conservative candidate this election, Mourning takes time. The pseudo conservative, who is only conservative on one aspect, the war itself, not gitmo etc., and whose history on other issues, is Hillary lite energizes not.
“When John takes office, it will have been 20 years since a Conservative that truly ‘got it’ led this nation.”
In this context I hope you’re not talking about Reagan, he signed the first idiotic illegal amnesty bill.
NO WAY I CAN VOTE FOR MCLAIM
“Please give it a rest. Let the candidate tell us why, not surrogates.”
Dude, this is FR...it’s what we do here.
And I’m not a surrogate, but thanks for stereotyping.
"DON'T BLAME ME I DIDN'T VOTE"
We must make sure our Brave Military gets the support to Win This WAR. Not another Viet Nam.
Then you post this...
NO WAY I CAN VOTE FOR MCLAIM
So I'm wondering, how do expect to make sure the military gets the help it needs to WIN THIS WAR by helping to elect the mitch or wiccan?
You must be one of those who talks the talk but won't walk the walk.
I also believe this is true. I also believe that, even with the propped up votes of ticked off conservatives this would happen. And it would be for nothing. The Republican party will thereafter look for every excuse in the book to explain away why we lost (emotion, Bush malaise, "change" fervor, etc.). I'd rather conservatives, because this will happen either way, should give the Republicans no other explanation to come to but the real one: they have squandered a rare opportunity during the 6 years they were in power, they did not stand on their principles, they did not foster and grow the candidates that could have won this, they did not, they did not , they did not. What they did was to spend money like a drunken sailor and take the lazy way out with the illegals invasion. In short, the party will learn nothing from this.
You can spur an elephant in the hind quarter and it would likely not phase it. If you beat him up side the head with a two-by-four, you'd probably get his attention.
“they have squandered a rare opportunity during the 6 years they were in power, they did not stand on their principles, they did not foster and grow the candidates that could have won this, they did not, they did not , they did not.”
Funny, that’s what a lot of liberals said after the Clinton administration.
Because the liberals said about it with respect to Clinton, still doesn’t change the fact that the Republicans have done this too.
Yep thats me.
Agreed Gaffer...GW tilted us left on spending and amnesty, etc., etc...McCain would be much more of that...enough of RINO’s, enough of “lesser of 2 evils”. Now if I can only stand 8 more months of vanities to the effect of “you gotta vote McCain for the sake of XXX”...sigh!
Hillary is toast. After a few more agonizing months of her very public self-destruction, her political career will finally be complete.
The Republican self-anointed elite wanted a liberal, and they expected Hillary would win, so they floated first Guliani, then Huckabee, then McCain. They were wrong, each time, and stupid. The country will survive Obama. It survived 50 years of FDR, it will survive four, or maybe eight years of Obama, maybe. Or maybe not, but he's our best option of these three.
If the Republican Party wants a voice in future politics, they can start by reading the US Constitution, and fronting principled conservatives who can articulate a conservative message and represent the voters who elect them. Otherwise, they can go away also.
Anyway, voters over 50 are not going to decide this election, or any future elections. Neither would conservatives, even if every one of us geezers lined up for the McCain Kool-Aid. Republicans have had 20 years since Reagan left office to demonstrate conservative principles (and they haven't), to teach and groom younger conservative candidates for public office (and they haven't), and to show the country that Republicans are the better party to lead the country in prosperity and freedom (and they haven't).
Don't blame me; I don't get to vote until it no longer counts.
You have no idea how many votes McCain will pick up from independents, right leaning dems and WOT conscious liberals. If we can get the right side looking at this properly, McCain will win by 6-8 points.
Then explain your opinion on McCain vis a vis your tagline. To the uninitiated, they seem to be imcompatible.
Neither do you. That’s all wishful thinking. With the freshly ID’d masses of illegals, criminals, double registered and multiple pollings added to the growing percentage of people that are on the ‘entitlement’ end of the see saw, we’ve finally reached the point where “they” outnumber “us”. When they are united, we won’t beat them because we simply aren’t enough. That’s why the Republican apparatus has taken to pandering them in the last 6 years.
"I also believe this is true."
I'm not so sure about that (then again, who is?)
It looks like Obama has truly aced out the Hildebeast. I truly doubt White, and Hispanics would trust and vote for a Black Man. Not racist, just know so many that wouldn't of both races...
Obama's position on so many issues is going to alienate a vast amount of American voters.
“Hell NO! McCain is not a military leader. He’s a former hot-dog pilot turned power-hungry corrupt Senator. If he had any leadership ability, the Navy would have given it to him, especially with his family history. They didn’t (and squadron commander doesn’t count as multi-force command in my book). His plan as CIC would be to send in wave after wave of foot soldiers to be ground up like hamburger. That’s what fly-boys do.”
I suggest leaving the intra-branch military rivalry for the Army-Navy game. You’re disrespect for McCains military service is unbecoming a veteran, if that is what you are.
Are we having fun yet???
I was in the US Navy. My observations of military leadership, and McCain’s fitness for overall CIC have nothing to do with inter-service rivalry.
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