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The Mystery Of Mammoth Tusks With Iron Fillings
Alaska Report News ^ | 3-5-2008 | Ned Rozell

Posted on 03/08/2008 2:03:28 PM PST by blam

The mystery of mammoth tusks with iron fillings

By By Ned Rozell
March 5, 2008

A giant meteor may have exploded over Alaska thousands of years ago, shooting out metal fragments like buckshot, some of which embedded in the tusks of woolly mammoths and the horns of bison. Simultaneously, a large chunk of the meteor hit Alaska south of Allakaket, sending up a dust cloud that blacked out the sun over the entire state and surrounding areas, killing most of the life in the area.

Embedded iron particles surrounded by carbonized rings in the outer layer of a mammoth tusk from Alaska. Inset photo shows how an object ripped through the tusk. Image courtesy Richard Firestone.

Such is the scenario envisioned by Rick Firestone, a staff scientist at the Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory in California. Firestone and his colleagues have found mammoth tusks and a bison skull with nickel-rich iron particles in them on one side, suggesting the metal fragments all came from the same direction.

Firestone's theory emerged when his colleague, Alan West of Dewey, Arizona, saw at a Phoenix gem and mineral show a mammoth tusk peppered with tiny bits of metal. Intrigued, West and Firestone looked at tusks owned by the same dealer in Calgary. By passing a magnet over mammoth tusks in Calgary, Firestone and West found seven mammoth tusks collected somewhere near the Yukon River and a bison skull from Siberia that had tiny iron fragments burned into them. The fragments also contained nickel.

"One in 1,000 tusks had this material in it," Firestone said.

Firestone also thinks he may have found the divot left by the ancient meteorite, an impact crater that is now occupied by a round body of water named Sithylemenkat Lake in the upper Kanuti River drainage.

"The creeks coming out of the lake are very rich in nickel," Firestone said, referring to a metal associated with meteorites. "And the shape is consistent with a crater from a meteorite that may have been a half a kilometer in diameter‹a pretty large thing."

A meteorite that big would have torched anything within a 100-mile radius and could have buried the mammoths farther away from the crater, preserving the tusks struck by metal fragments. Firestone said the dust kicked up by the meteor would have eliminated any mammoths that survived the meteor's hit.

"There was probably 10,000 years with no mammoths," he said, adding that other mammoths eventually migrated back into Alaska.

Dale Guthrie, one of Alaska's few experts on mammoths, said he found Firestone's theory interesting, but Alaska scientists who know about impact craters think he is probably off on his guess that Sithylemenkat Lake is the place where a giant meteorite struck about 35,000 years ago (the approximate age of the mammoth tusks). Scientists have confirmed only one impact crater in Alaska‹called Avak, near Barrow‹and have discovered only about 140 impact craters on the entire planet.

Buck Sharpton, an expert on impact craters and the Vice Chancellor for Research at the University of Alaska Fairbanks, said the lake would have to be much older than 35,000 years because it has no rim associated with more recent impact craters and doesn't look to him like an impact crater. He thinks the iron bits in the tusks could be cavities filled by "being immersed for millennia in porous sedimentary fill through which iron-rich water percolated."

As for Sithylemenkat Lake, Gordon Herreid didn't mention a possible meteorite impact when he wrote a 1969 geology report on the lake for the state (which ordered the investigation because of possible nickel deposits there). Jan Cannon wrote in the journal Science in 1977 that the lake looked to be the only visible impact crater in Alaska based on a study of Landsat satellite images. One year later, William Patton of the U.S. Geological Survey argued in Science that glaciers, rather than a meteorite, created the lake.

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TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: Alaska
KEYWORDS: catastrophism; clovis; clovisimpact; freepun; godsgravesglyphs; impact; ironfilling; mammoth; mystery; tusks
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1 posted on 03/08/2008 2:03:30 PM PST by blam
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To: blam

Caveman buckshot?


2 posted on 03/08/2008 2:07:01 PM PST by Charles Martel (The Tree of Liberty thirsts.)
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To: SunkenCiv; Renfield
GGG Ping.

Sithylemenkat Lake

3 posted on 03/08/2008 2:07:29 PM PST by blam (Secure the border and enforce the law)
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To: blam

Them IUDs way back then, Eh?


4 posted on 03/08/2008 2:07:48 PM PST by Leo Carpathian (fffffFRrrreeeeepppeeee!)
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To: blam

I don’t think people were simply stupid back then. A meteor would have killed the beast if they were in range of the shrapnel.


5 posted on 03/08/2008 2:09:05 PM PST by kinoxi
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To: blam

Sithylemenkat Lake

6 posted on 03/08/2008 2:09:20 PM PST by blam (Secure the border and enforce the law)
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To: blam

Interesting discovery.


7 posted on 03/08/2008 2:10:51 PM PST by Maelstorm (Heroism is something that when it is manifest it is undeniable. The same can be said for cowardice.)
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To: blam
a dust cloud that blacked out the sun over the entire state and surrounding areas, killing most of the life in the area.

Extremely not likely. The sun is gone for half the year in Interior Alaska every year and the same stupid gray jays, ravens, and rabbits are still there in the spring.

8 posted on 03/08/2008 2:13:02 PM PST by RightWhale (Clam down! avoid ataque de nervosa)
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To: blam

BTTT


9 posted on 03/08/2008 2:13:37 PM PST by Fiddlstix (Warning! This Is A Subliminal Tagline! Read it at your own risk!(Presented by TagLines R US))
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To: blam

So, it obviously didn’t hit in Britain? They still don’t use flouride everywhere over here and yet they bitch about their reputation for bad teeth! Tee Hee! said by a white-toothed-adorable-smiled American :-)


10 posted on 03/08/2008 2:15:57 PM PST by wazoo1031
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To: blam

LOL! When I worked for the BIA in Juneau years ago, some construction company called and wanted to know where Allakaket (Al-a-KAK-it)was. Believe it or not, I was able to tell them. Don’t ask me now, though... (I plead the ravages of old age and the curse of sobriety)


11 posted on 03/08/2008 2:17:23 PM PST by redhead (Come ON, global warming!!)
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To: blam
Round lakes are not good.
12 posted on 03/08/2008 2:17:26 PM PST by Little Bill (Welcome to the Newly Socialist State of New Hampshire)
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To: Allegra

PING!


13 posted on 03/08/2008 2:18:16 PM PST by wazoo1031
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To: Little Bill

There are plenty of round lakes in Alaska. A not-round lake is probably on the North Slope where prevailing wind causes erosion in a preferential direction, elongating the lakes, most all of them up there.


14 posted on 03/08/2008 2:20:31 PM PST by RightWhale (Clam down! avoid ataque de nervosa)
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To: Charles Martel

maybe Tusks and horns turn into Iron over time.


15 posted on 03/08/2008 2:20:38 PM PST by CJ Wolf (Let Freedom Ping List - Ron Paul - Ron Paul - Ron Paul - Join it.)
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To: blam

You don’t think they might have banned lead shot back in the days of Alley Oop for fear the mammoths might have been poisoning themselves eating the stuff??


16 posted on 03/08/2008 2:22:48 PM PST by jeddavis
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To: RightWhale

Not to mention all of the round “lakes” in areas like the Kenai Peninsula that are believed to have formed when big chunks of retreating glaciers broke off, depressed the ground, melted and voila! A round lake!


17 posted on 03/08/2008 2:29:25 PM PST by 43north (I hope we are around long enough to become a layer in the rocks of the future.)
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To: blam

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1938518/posts


18 posted on 03/08/2008 2:29:46 PM PST by BGHater ($2300 is the limit of your Free Speech.)
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To: blam

Iron FILLINGS? Iron fillings? Maybe the mammoths had a cheap dental plan. How did the dentist get the beast to hold still?


19 posted on 03/08/2008 2:29:58 PM PST by count-your-change (you don't have to be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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To: redhead
...some construction company called and wanted to know where Allakaket (Al-a-KAK-it)was.

Were they from Alabama since it's pronounced Al-a-BAM-a? :=)

20 posted on 03/08/2008 2:30:49 PM PST by Bob
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To: blam

Bush, Cheney and Haliburton’s fault!


21 posted on 03/08/2008 2:34:23 PM PST by Redleg Duke ("All gave some, and some gave all!")
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To: blam

Navigation devices or drunken target practice.


22 posted on 03/08/2008 2:35:34 PM PST by Old Professer (The critic writes with rapier pen, dips it twice, and writes again.)
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To: Bob
"Were they from Alabama since it's pronounced Al-a-BAM-a? :=)"

"Be careful there Bob, I'd hate for something to happen. (See my home page)

23 posted on 03/08/2008 2:36:37 PM PST by blam (Secure the border and enforce the law)
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To: Leo Carpathian
“Them IUDs “

ah do you mean IED? They aren't necessarily interchangeable.

24 posted on 03/08/2008 2:39:57 PM PST by brooklin
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To: Charles Martel

I am betting on time travelers on some sort of future big game hunt.

Can’t get criticized for killing something that’s already extinct.


25 posted on 03/08/2008 2:40:59 PM PST by SlapHappyPappy
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To: blam
Be careful there Bob, I'd hate for something to happen.

My comment was solely directed towards the pronunciation. I have no idea how to pronounce Allakaket. My best guess would be al-LAH-ka-ket.

26 posted on 03/08/2008 2:41:44 PM PST by Bob
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To: Charles Martel
My guess, also.

I always use slugs when I hunt woolly mammoth.

27 posted on 03/08/2008 2:43:33 PM PST by 2111USMC
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To: Bob

I did that because they asked for “A-LAK-a-ket.” I had to have them spell it before I could look for it.


28 posted on 03/08/2008 2:43:33 PM PST by redhead (Come ON, global warming!!)
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To: Bob
"My comment was solely directed towards the pronunciation."

As you were then...carry on.

29 posted on 03/08/2008 2:45:50 PM PST by blam (Secure the border and enforce the law)
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To: blam
"the dust kicked up by the meteor would have eliminated any mammoths that survived"

Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha...

What utter nonsense.

30 posted on 03/08/2008 2:46:11 PM PST by JasonC
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To: brooklin

Is that a dyslexic DUI?


31 posted on 03/08/2008 3:07:19 PM PST by fish hawk (The religion of Darwinism = Monkey Intellect)
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To: blam

Would have been a pretty bad day to get caught under an airburst iron-nickel meteorite that blast shrapnel over an 100 mile area.


32 posted on 03/08/2008 3:16:18 PM PST by JustDoItAlways
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To: blam

Or, if you’re a Southern Gal like I am, you say “Abalama” after you’ve had a few scoops...I’m a proud Southerner and always will be, even though I reside in England...I can’t wait to get home!


33 posted on 03/08/2008 3:22:12 PM PST by wazoo1031
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To: wazoo1031

Good for you...we miss you.


34 posted on 03/08/2008 3:29:06 PM PST by blam (Secure the border and enforce the law)
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To: Charles Martel

Bad things happen to good critters. I really wonder how commonplace these types of catastrophes are.


35 posted on 03/08/2008 3:29:44 PM PST by Mike Darancette (Democrat Happens!)
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To: blam; SunkenCiv

The Mammoth articles are back!

These iron particles imbedded in mammoth tusks were obviously fillings put in by mammoth dentists. Who Gnu?


36 posted on 03/08/2008 3:59:45 PM PST by wildbill
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To: blam

Pardon Me, Sugar, I meant truly “Southern” And I say that laughing, as last time I was in New Yawk, they asked me where I was from! Do Yankees even know about us?


37 posted on 03/08/2008 4:04:02 PM PST by wazoo1031
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To: wildbill
These iron particles imbedded in mammoth tusks were obviously fillings put in by mammoth dentists.

Or maybe it was some of this guy's early work...


38 posted on 03/08/2008 4:15:59 PM PST by Charles Martel (The Tree of Liberty thirsts.)
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To: SlapHappyPappy
I am betting on time travelers on some sort of future big game hunt.

So THEY'RE the scheiss-heads who stepped on a butterfly and caused Jonson to be elected over Goldwater!

39 posted on 03/08/2008 4:25:24 PM PST by BlazingArizona
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To: wazoo1031
"Do Yankees even know about us?"

Nah.

My New Zealand neighbor was confused when I told him I wasn't a Yank, lol.

40 posted on 03/08/2008 5:28:53 PM PST by blam (Secure the border and enforce the law)
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:’) In the original:

“By By Ned Rozell”


41 posted on 03/09/2008 8:59:33 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/______________________Profile updated Saturday, March 1, 2008)
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richard firestone site:freerepublic.com
Google

42 posted on 03/09/2008 9:00:11 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/______________________Profile updated Saturday, March 1, 2008)
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The Cycle of Cosmic Catastrophes: Flood, Fire, and Famine in the History of Civilization The Cycle of Cosmic Catastrophes:
Flood, Fire, and Famine
in the History of Civilization

by Richard Firestone,
Allen West, and
Simon Warwick-Smith


43 posted on 03/09/2008 9:01:02 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/______________________Profile updated Saturday, March 1, 2008)
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To: wildbill

It has been a while since we’ve had a mammoth article. I’m surprised no one had taken us to tusk about it.

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46 posted on 03/09/2008 9:07:20 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/______________________Profile updated Saturday, March 1, 2008)
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To: SunkenCiv

Early start to the Iron Age?


47 posted on 03/09/2008 9:08:29 AM PDT by Monkey Face (A good laugh and a long sleep are the two best cures.)
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To: Monkey Face
Mammoths killed by meteors? Iron-ic...
48 posted on 03/09/2008 9:18:25 AM PDT by null and void (It's 3 AM, do you know where Hillary is? Does she know where Bill is? Does Bill know what 'is' is?)
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To: blam
He thinks the iron bits in the tusks could be cavities filled by "being immersed for millennia in porous sedimentary fill through which iron-rich water percolated

Hey Bill, notice Buck forgot to mention that the Iron bits were only in the skyward half of the tusks.

49 posted on 03/09/2008 9:21:06 AM PDT by ASA Vet (Only a suicidal fool would have Hillary as VP)
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Global warming?
Bush’s fault?
Left-wing conspiracy? Yah! That’s it! That’s the ticket!

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50 posted on 03/09/2008 9:21:27 AM PDT by Monkey Face (A good laugh and a long sleep are the two best cures.)
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