Posted on 09/11/2008 9:55:10 AM PDT by GodGunsGuts
Sept 10, 2008 — Astrobiologist David Deamer believes that life can spontaneously emerge without design, but he thinks lay people are too uneducated to understand how this is possible, so he gives them the watered-down version of Darwin’s natural selection instead, which he knows is inadequate to explain the complexity of life. That’s what he seemed to be telling reporter Susan Mazur in an interview for the Scoop (New Zealand). Is the lay public really too dense for the deeper knowledge of how evolution works?...
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you said LOL The 2.1 degrees is is exactly related to the light-time correction and the distance of the earth from the the sun. If the Sun was closer the angle would be smaller, and if the sun was further away the angle would be larger.
You saidThe 20 arc seconds you are talking about is the displacement of the suns masses orbit around the barycenter. It is not due to stellar aberration.You're just outright wrong here - see here or do your own research - but Stellar Aberration is unquestionably do the the observer's transverse velocity and is about 20 arcseconds.
You said: The suns actual position and gravitational position do line up. The apparent position doesn't though, it is off by 2.1 degrees ...And in case you might say that I was just confused, that's not possible either because I have been continually telling you things like:
But you claimed that the angular displacement between the sun's gravitational pull and optical position is 2.1 degrees, at any given instant, without waiting 8.3 minutes!(I have told you many many times things along those many times. If you doubt I will gladly provide more links.)
As you had no data with which to convince me.
"You want some FRIES with that?"
INTERPRETATION of 'evidence'.
Are you starting to comprehend? Should I try over again and go slower?
You should show some experiments to back up what you so assuredly assert.
Well then, since Jesus REALLY rose from the grave...
And what is the evolutionary process that keeps these 'accumulations' around until the final brick is placed?
Where is the Evolutionary 'advantage' to do so?
What is this strange, half formed THING growing in my body?
When the Apocalypse comes; AMISH 'skills' will insure survival.
When the Apocalypse comes; AMISH 'skills' will insure survival.
Communal cookie press education is not what America stands for.
And promised everyone that he would return 2000 years ago as a conqueror. Yeah I can see that that happened.
Elsie let me give you a clue. Elisha's bones didn't raise a dead man from the grave. Christ didn't rise from the dead and return 2000 years ago. Constantine the Emperor/Pope who put the Bible together was a cynical pagan. The Bible is a book of history mixed with myths, parables and stolen stories.
Ignorance really must be blissful : )
The physics of Jupiter and its moons are completely different than the Sun/Earth relationship.
When your standing on Jupiter watching the Sun and Jupiter's moons go by, we can compare that system with Earth and its moon, etc.
I stand in awe of your knowledge : ) Knowing that the physics, light and gravity, are completely different on Jupiter than they are on Earth. Do you even realize that you constantly say something and then contradict yourself with your next thought?
Faith cannot be scientifically falsified.
No, but what you believe in can be : )
Why are you frantically trying to change the subject from your pet 2.1°?
I'm not. I am just waiting for your model of the Sun orbiting the earth that shows the 2.1 degree lag.
I suppose if you can change the accepted definitions of scientific terms at your whim you can win any argument.
Fichori – Unless I’m misunderstanding your position; do you really believe that the Sun orbits a stationary and unmovable Earth?
Do you also believe that the Moon landings were a big cover up and government conspiracy and filmed and staged on a Hollywood sound stage?
Because to believe in the first would necessitated a belief in the second based on your a$$ backward and totally irrational and uniformed and uneducated understanding of basic physics, gravity and the long proven fact of a heliocentric solar system.
My point was that you did the calculations before you found out that the Sun was moving at over 500,000 mph. Do you also know that the galaxy that the Earth is orbiting is itself orbiting the center of the Universe at a great speed? Did you know that most of the stars that you see in the sky are galaxies?
In any case, not only are you claiming that the apparent angular displacement of the sun is 2.1 degrees but you have been claiming that it was due to the fact that the earth rotates 2.1 degrees in the time it takes light to fly the 1AU.
That is essentially correct, the Earth rotates about 2.1 degrees in the time it takes light to get here from the Sun.
Are you saying that you were wrong, or are you standing by your longstanding claim that if one had a gravity meter which would tell the exact actual position of the sun that it would (for an observer on the earth at any instant in time) read 2.1 degrees ahead of a regular sundial?
You seem hung up on this 2.1 degrees that you calculated, it isn't a constant.
Are you trying to goad me into getting an education by telling me lies and making me debunk them, thereby learning the truth? You're certainly not (on average) teaching me anything true by any other means. I'd really appreciate honesty though. I'm more or less ignoring your question about the increase of mass with light-speed velocities because I'm well aware of derailing tactics and this looks like one. And besides if we can't figure out a simple geometry then think how lost we could get with lightspeed weights.
I don't think that you are capable of learning anything new that contradicts your mental map.
Fichori is a creationist. He believes the Earth is the center of the Universe, that it is surrounded by water and that God made the Earth 6000 years ago. Then God flooded the Earth 4000 years ago with that water that the earth is surrounded by (rain from heaven).
Also...
And heck why not just go to...
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/sites/entrez
and search “phylogenetic” or “evolution”.
You apparently have a lot of homework to do.
Yep, now I'm sure you don't know what you're talking about.
Interesting question that has been the subject of much research. The genetic code has a number synonyms -- the equivalent of the way "y" and "i" are pronounced. So many mutations have no immediate affect on fitness. The fact that neutral mutations can become fixed in a population is in observed fact, and the scenario I described has also been observed.
Dice are probabilistic rather than random.
Constantine was a believer in Sol until his conversion to Christianity. He put him on all his coins up to that point in time.
Constantine was dead by the time the great councils of Bishops decided which Books were inspired by God and included in their Bible. This was the Old Latin Bible. Not many of those around anymore.
But the Bible is the inspired work of God. It wouldn’t hurt you to read it once or twice.
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