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Posted on 12/03/2008 8:59:31 AM PST by Publius804
And yet here you are; soldiering away.
As well as a bunch of other stuff.
In chapter 14, verse 10, however, Nephi describes the archetypal categories: “There are save two churches only”—the church of the Lamb of God, or Zion; and the church of the devil, or Babylon. “Whoso belongeth not to the church of the Lamb of God belongeth to that great church, which is the mother of abominations; and she is the whore of all the earth.”
Apocalyptic literature is dualistic. Since it deals with types, everything boils down to opposing principles: love and hate, good and evil, light and dark. There are no gray areas in apocalyptic writing. In this sense, there are only two categories in the realm of religion: religion that will save and religion that won't. The former is the Church of the Lamb, and the latter, no matter how well intentioned, is a counterfeit.
In the historical sense, though, only one entity can be the great and abominable church. Well-intentioned churches would thus not qualify as the mother of abominations described in 1 Nephi 13. They do not slay the saints of God nor seek to control civil governments nor pursue wealth, luxury, and sexual immorality.
In either the apocalyptic sense or the historical sense, individual orientation to the Church of the Lamb or to the great and abominable church is not by membership but by loyalty. Just as there are Latter-day Saints who belong to the great and abominable church because of their loyalty to Satan and his lifestyle, so there are members of other churches who belong to the Lamb because of their loyalty to him and his lifestyle. Membership is based more on who has your heart than on who has your records.
http://farms.byu.edu/publications/jbms/?vol=7&num=1&id=168
This is just a snippet. The whole article is excellent.
Now, I've answered a number of your questions, but yet you have failed to answer mine in post 551. If you would like to continue our little “give & take”, then you need to give as much as you take.
But words just piss me off."
Listen to me. My previous post to you contained NO DOGMA on my part or on that of Christians! All I cited were Mormon leaders, who were engaging in Christian bashing. This is about Christian bashing...and Mormons and their allies to point a finger at so-called "Mormon bashing" -- yet who will not apologize for or rebuke Mormon leaders who have engaged in Christian bashing, are being downright inconsistent.
It's time for all to be consistent. When we were little kids & teens, we were inconsistent. It's time to grow up.
Not MOST Christians; but MOST MORMON sure would, for that is what they've been TAUGHT - it's NOT what the CONTEXT shows!
BTW...
21 And say unto them, Thus saith the Lord GOD; Behold, I will take the children of Israel from among the heathen, whither they be gone, and will gather them on every side, and bring them into their own land:
Israel - 1948
Translation: we Mormons are getting TIRED of this thread. Let's see if we can steer it to a Catholic/Protestant fight.
4(C)The serpent said to the woman, "You surely will not die!
5"For God knows that in the day you eat from it your eyes will be opened, and you will be like God, knowing good and evil."
22 ¶ And the Lord God said, Behold, the man is become as one of us, to know good and evil: and now, lest he put forth his hand, and take also of the tree of life, and eat, and live for ever:Note that this is one place where Satan actually told the truth to sneak in the lie about not dying. The sin was disobedience not wanting to be like God we are commanded to emulate him.
I don’t read your posts, but perhaps they will influence your crew of Mormon bashers.
I don’t CARE about their dogma. I don’t CARE about YOUR dogma.
(The right to the Priesthood in America: White men - day one; Black men - 1978; Women - not yet girls)
Defend your HONOR! Gentile WOMAN!!
Let me try...
Uh...
Grunt...
Ergg...
Delfi will type - I said - You said - soon!
Translation: We should only bash Mormons, and not let the light shine on the hypocrisy of the rest of us and some of the disgusting past of YOUR own religions.
Must be nice in a world torn apart by extremists who want to kill us that some of you can only go after Mormons DAY AFTER DAY. It's getting OLD. What the hell are you afraid of, that they might have some food stored?
Note that this is one place where Satan actually told the truth to sneak in the lie about not dying. The sin was disobedience not wanting to be like God we are commanded to emulate him.
Ah, but disobedience of what? Original sin goes deeper than eating a piece of fruit. The sin was pride: wanting to be like God. Eve didn't want the fruit; she wanted to be like God.
No, it's U said
You’ve probably seen many times when I TRIED to get it, but someone else managed to slip in on me.
So true!
Nah... we don't read 'em either; but prefer to get out stuff directly from things that LDS, Inc. SLC, has published.
And yet, THEY keep coming back for more!!
Talk about a target rich environment!
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