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With one signature he could spell the end of this program, Rush Let's BC cat out of bag
vanity | 01/27/2009 | vanity

Posted on 01/27/2009 10:16:03 AM PST by FreeAtlanta

Rush just said that Obama isn't afraid of him. With one signature, Obama could spell the end to this show. This has to be why he and others will not question the Birth Certificate issue.


TOPICS: Politics/Elections; Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: bho2009; birthcertificate; eligibility; ineligible; limbaugh; naturalborncitizen; obama; rush; rushlimbaugh; talkradio
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To: unspun
See the John Jay letter here, which spells this out, in the common understanding maintained at the time, as per Vatel and Tucker.

Read Perkins v. Elg which states that a person born to one naturalized citizen and one non citizen is a "natural born citizen" of the United States.

141 posted on 01/27/2009 1:45:19 PM PST by trumandogz (The Democrats are driving us to Socialism at I00 MPH -The GOP is driving us to Socialism at 97.5 MPH)
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To: nominal
At the time, that was the law, wasn’t it?

If you say so, but I have seen no documentation that states that citizenship was automatically acquired by marriage in the United States.

142 posted on 01/27/2009 1:46:55 PM PST by trumandogz (The Democrats are driving us to Socialism at I00 MPH -The GOP is driving us to Socialism at 97.5 MPH)
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To: Calpernia

Oaky, thanks, but I am unaware of any court battle that have taken place regrading the NBC Question.


143 posted on 01/27/2009 1:48:58 PM PST by trumandogz (The Democrats are driving us to Socialism at I00 MPH -The GOP is driving us to Socialism at 97.5 MPH)
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To: trumandogz
Oaky, thanks, but I am unaware of any court battle that have taken place regrading the NBC Question.

That was sarcasm right?

because usually an alarm goes off on your computer whenever someone post anything about Obama's Birth certificate.....

144 posted on 01/27/2009 1:53:32 PM PST by usmcobra (Your chances of dying in bed are reduced by getting out of it, but most people still die in bed)
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To: unspun

I have two passports, a U.S. Passport and a passport from the country where I was born. Whenever I exit of leave the U.S. I use my U.S. Passport however, there have been times when I used my other passport to enter and exit a third country. There is nothing illegal about that process.


145 posted on 01/27/2009 1:56:04 PM PST by trumandogz (The Democrats are driving us to Socialism at I00 MPH -The GOP is driving us to Socialism at 97.5 MPH)
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To: usmcobra

A court battle is when two opposing sides argue a case in front of a court.

To the best of my knowledge, there has not been one single court where two parties argued the NBC Question in front of the court. Yes, numerous cases have been submitted to courts and rejected, but none have been accepted by a court to be argued.


146 posted on 01/27/2009 1:59:44 PM PST by trumandogz (The Democrats are driving us to Socialism at I00 MPH -The GOP is driving us to Socialism at 97.5 MPH)
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To: Sybeck1
Moot issue when the highest court in the land gives it a pass.

But they really haven't. They've denied motions for injunctions, for stays, and cert only for those cases that have not gone through the "proper" tack in lower courts.

Now that might not mean anything. Or it could mean they are dotting their i's and crossing their t's, making sure whatever they do in the future is completely legally defensibily.

We shall see. Stay tuned.

147 posted on 01/27/2009 2:04:20 PM PST by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: trumandogz; Calpernia
Read Perkins v. Elg which states that a person born to one naturalized citizen and one non citizen is a "natural born citizen" of the United States.

I have examined the issue of Perkins v. Elg. It simply does not attempt to determine what is a natural born Citizen, per the presidential requirement in the Constitution.

Natural Born Citizens: Or How to Beat a Subject to Death with a Stick, Judah Benjamin, November 28, 2008

The Law -- Perkins v. ELG, CalperniaUSA

148 posted on 01/27/2009 2:05:02 PM PST by unspun (PRAY & WORK FOR FREEDOM - investigatingobama.blogspot.com)
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To: trumandogz
My guess is that your opinion that Afroyim v. Rusk was a wrong decision will have little if any impact on any decision the Court may make regarding BHO's NBC status.

One can day similar things about Dredd Scott and Roe/Doe.

It is for the court to decide and Congress to reinstill their responsibility to legislate.

149 posted on 01/27/2009 2:06:59 PM PST by unspun (PRAY & WORK FOR FREEDOM - investigatingobama.blogspot.com)
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To: freespirited
IIRC The One took an oath to uphold the Constitution.

On the re-do, he probably had his other hand behind his side with his fingers crossed.

Some people's oaths are not worth the paper they weren't written on.

150 posted on 01/27/2009 2:11:05 PM PST by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: null and void

I really hadn’t hoped for my golden years to be filled with running skirmishes against cult followers of some false messianic POS. But, if it must be so...............


151 posted on 01/27/2009 2:13:01 PM PST by Thumper1960 (A modern so-called "Conservative" is a shadow of a wisp of a vertebrate human being.)
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To: trumandogz

here: 10 Statute 604 section 2 February 10, 1855

It says ‘parents naturalized’ right in the first sentences of Perkins v Elg, yet you assume the opposite.


152 posted on 01/27/2009 2:13:05 PM PST by nominal (Christus dominus. Christus veritas.)
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To: trumandogz; Lurking Libertarian; All
I have two passports, a U.S. Passport and a passport from the country where I was born. Whenever I exit of leave the U.S. I use my U.S. Passport however, there have been times when I used my other passport to enter and exit a third country. There is nothing illegal about that process.

Are you an Indonesian citizen?

Claiming Indonesian citizenship as an adult means the revocation of any other citizenship status, as I understaned their law.

You may also find this interesting:

Dual Citizenship Makes Obama Ineligible Under Article II By Judah Benjamin, Guest Author

Pardon, I had stated 18 as the age at which Obama's Indonesian citizenship meant foreswearing American citizenship. Apparently, it was 21.

I do not suppose that it was ever his intention to give up his US Citizenship and it does not matter to me one bit. It doesn’t matter to Indonesia either. If Lolo Soetoro adopted him he ceased to be a US Citizen in the mid 1960s, BY INDONESIAN LAW. He also ceased to be a Kenyan Citizen, BY INDONESIAN LAW. By Kenyan and US Law he retained his Original Citizenships, until his 21st Birthday. By Indonesian Law he could have given up Indonesian Citizenship at age 18, but did he? If he didn’t he was, albeit accidentally, displaying a Legal Intention to void his US Citizenship, since he knew he could not Legally hold both Citizenships.
That, of course is only one of the three failures of Obama to demonstrate eligiblity.

Further reading about this entire matter.

153 posted on 01/27/2009 2:14:41 PM PST by unspun (PRAY & WORK FOR FREEDOM - investigatingobama.blogspot.com)
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To: unspun

The Elg decision states that Miss Elg was in fact a natural born citizen.

Miss Elg was born in Brooklyn to a father that had been naturalized. Miss Elg moved to Sweden and returned to the United States. She kept her status as a natural born citizen.


154 posted on 01/27/2009 2:14:47 PM PST by trumandogz (The Democrats are driving us to Socialism at I00 MPH -The GOP is driving us to Socialism at 97.5 MPH)
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To: unspun

Yes, Roe is bad law, but it is the law.


155 posted on 01/27/2009 2:15:40 PM PST by trumandogz (The Democrats are driving us to Socialism at I00 MPH -The GOP is driving us to Socialism at 97.5 MPH)
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To: trumandogz

ibid., thanks


156 posted on 01/27/2009 2:17:10 PM PST by unspun (PRAY & WORK FOR FREEDOM - investigatingobama.blogspot.com)
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To: Between the Lines
I don't believe the Fairness Doctrine would cover pod-casts.

Only if they bother with even pretending to observe the Constitution. Radio and TV are regulated by the federal government under the Interstate Commerce clause. But the regulation is *supposed* to be to insure noninterference. It's been stretched further to "ensure the proper use of the supposedly public airways". The fairness doctrine already stretches even that. Why not stretch it a bit more and regulate all interstate media under the IC clause. That would of course include cable and the Internet.

People who don't respect the Constitution..don't respect the Constitution.

IOW, any new rules could cover whatever they wanted. At least until the Supreme Court got around to ruling against them, if they did.

157 posted on 01/27/2009 2:17:13 PM PST by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: unspun
If Lolo Soetoro adopted him he ceased to be a US Citizen in the mid 1960s, BY INDONESIAN LAW.

If that is a case, you may want to file a NBC case against Obama in an INDONESIAN Court.

158 posted on 01/27/2009 2:19:06 PM PST by trumandogz (The Democrats are driving us to Socialism at I00 MPH -The GOP is driving us to Socialism at 97.5 MPH)
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To: NorCoGOP
Remember, it would take Congressional action via impeachment now for the BC issue to "remove" NoBama...

You state that like it's a known fact with precedent. It's not. The situation of an ineligible person unlawfully occupying the office of President has never come up, so almost anything could happen.

Besides which, suppose it did come out that he was born in Timbuktu, and is not even a citizen. You think the country would just say "Oh well"? Look at what happened to Old Blog, set upon by his own party lest the people of even jaded Illinois set upon them. He might very well be impeached. He might step down. Who knows? There is no precedent.

159 posted on 01/27/2009 2:22:08 PM PST by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: trumandogz; Calpernia
The Elg decision states that Miss Elg was in fact a natural born citizen.

The decision stops short of saying she was was a "natural born Citizen" per Article 2, regarding presidential eligibility. It does not address this, nor did it intend to, nor did this case refer to that. It simply upholds a lower ruling that she was a citizen and that lower court happened to use that phrase.

160 posted on 01/27/2009 2:29:48 PM PST by unspun (PRAY & WORK FOR FREEDOM - investigatingobama.blogspot.com)
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