Posted on 03/01/2009 12:42:10 PM PST by Richard Poe
Lower than what?
The fictional number posted by wmfights?
BS. Were it not for the Church, the pro-life movement would be about as relevant as PETA.
I suppose I should just look at white Evangelicals when discussing my Baptist church. We went 75% for McCain. I rather confront the reality that in the Evangelical churches we went for McCain 55% meaning we have 45% who are confused about what it means to be a Christian.
If all you want to do is massage the %'s you don't confront the internal problem.
Adam Smith observed that capitalism needed to have a moral and ethical core to be sucessful. He was no socialist either.
Whether they are Catholic, evangelicals, or even atheists it is wrong to vote for pro-abort politicians, but that’s another thread.
But more importantly what are YOU going to do about what’s going on in NY and around the country? Will you contact your politicians? Will you write a letter to the editor? Will you call a talk show? Do you try to convince folks you talk with to not vote for pro-aborts?
I agree.
More bogus numbers.
Do meaningless statistics give you comfort?
It takes more than professing to be Catholic to be Catholic. The overwhelming majority of Catholics who actually practice their faith voted for McCain.
Tell them their father's democrat party is dead.
Please substantiate or retract your claim.
I do talk to friends and call my representatives.
Denying reality only aids the enemy.
I think it is the real explanation. And as for consequences, they know there will be some -- they just don't care. As their patron saint once said, "If you're going to make an omelet you have to break some eggs."
The second rule is: Never go outside the experience of your people. When an action is outside the experience of the people, the result is confusion, fear, and retreat.
The third rule is: Wherever possible go outside of the experience of the enemy. Here you want to cause confusion, fear, and retreat.
The fourth rule is: Make the enemy live up to their own book of rules. You can kill them with this, for they can no more obey their own rules than the Christian church can live up to Christianity.....excerpts from 'Rules for Radicals',...Saul Alinsky
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I am a Roman Catholic. I have voted in every election since 1972. Nobody ever asked me for whom I voted.
“I do talk to friends and call my representatives.”
WTG! That’s what threads like this are about.
Archbishop Charles Chaput supports my contention. (http://www.zenit.org/article-25192?l=english) Until you can back up your statements they remain bovine scat.
I certainly meant no slander and am sorry you interpreted my remarks that way. BUT, I don’t know how anyone can deny that the RCC, at least in the USA, went mighty quiet as the social tsunami of the late 60s forward swept the land, and did not use its power to influence at least its own members. It wasn’t just the RCC, it was all the mainline Protestant churches as well. All of which gave rise to the evangelical movement.
The U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops exerted little to no influence, they were so busy turning altars around, bringing in folk music, yada yada yada. Why they didn’t clamp down on CINO politicians from Day One is beyond me. Kennedy/Biden/Pelosi/Durbin/Kerry .. all of them ... should have been excommunicated the day they announced their support for ‘a woman’s right to choose.’ But, oh, no. They are still well received among the Church hierarchy, with maybe a wrist slap from time to time.
Have you noticed what’s happened in “Catholic” colleges? Those were the former machines that drove Catholic thought in the USA; today they are no different from public colleges, and some are worse.
I would love nothing better than to see the RCC return to its theological roots.
Catholics like American Jews have nobody to blame but themselves. They vote like mindless twits for democrats and then whine when democrats do what democrats do.
Tribalism was one reason. Cardinal Cushing in Boston was an Irishman first and a Catholic second. That's why he kissed Kennedy behinds for decades.
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