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Obamacare Is Dead and Here's Why [Obamacare Ongoing Thread]
Town Hall ^ | 1-26-10 | Robert A. Levy

Posted on 01/25/2010 11:27:02 PM PST by JustPiper

As the Massachusetts blame game unfolds, the president’s unpopular health bill leads the list. But the substantive provisions of the bill were just part of the problem. Perhaps more important, voters were appalled by how the deal unfolded.

Consider the pre-election giveaway to the labor unions. Negotiators agreed to exempt union contracts until 2018 from the tax on so-called Cadillac health-insurance plans. That backroom bargain not only outraged the voters, it also violated the Fifth Amendment to the Constitution, requiring the federal government to extend equal protection of the laws to all U.S. persons. Of course, not all voters understood the constitutional nuances, but they sensed that something was very wrong; and they reacted.

I have been disturbed by the socialists for years, ever since I learned many members of Congress 'openly' joined the DSA (Democratic Socialists of America). Several years ago, the names were published on the DSA site. (since removed of course) Please post any info you have, many of you have been on this issue for many years, & if we can store it all on one thread, we have our FreeRepublic Warehouse on the enemies of the state. How DO we combat this, when it's coming at us from every angle? When the people have been asleep for decades. Please post anything you have found or accumulated. Also choose a dictator these people follow, of particular interest,those in D.C. who have been quoted with their adulation of one.

Communism- Marxism-Leninism-Stalinism-Trotskyism-Maoism- Hoxhaism-Hoxhaism-Titoism ETC


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Democrat Caddell rips White House for obeisance to organized labor

Stimulus Failure By The Numbers

Meet the Communist Party USA's "Men of Faith"

Obama’s Jobs for Fatcats program

The more interesting question is: What did Poland do right - and will Poland be better off or worse off if it joins the Eurozone?
Poland Vs. Greece (Washington Times)

Geithner and Bernanke: Laundering Money Through an Illegal Trust?

Key Senate Democrats push for health care public option (Evil Never Rests)---CNN

FOX NEWS reviews "The Coming Insurrection" (GB)

Progressives Are Targeting Your Kids (Must see video )

581 posted on 02/17/2010 9:39:15 PM PST by JustPiper
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To: STARWISE; combat_boots; cripplecreek; gunnyg; Recovering Ex-hippie; JerseyDvl; GlennBeck08; ...

Glenn Beck: NYT - Those crazy tea baggers

Thanks to Starwise for the heads up!
Obama and Congress Request and Obtain Extension of Time to File Opposition Brief to Kerchner Appeal

Does Obama need the birthers? I think he needs them. Badly. Here's why:

Saudi controlled FOX moves against Gubernatorial candidates who question Obama’s Eligibility

As Obama stonewalls on uncertified birth certificate, official doubts mount

Soetoro/Obama has FAILED to prove he's a natural born citizen

"We the People are the rightful master of both congress and the courts - not to overthrow the Constitution, but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution." ~Abraham Lincoln
tHE bIRTHERS

"Birthers" talk radio podcasts

Forgery Revealed in Kos Publication of Obama 'Birth Certificate'

D.C. court case demands Obama explain eligibility Contends president's allegiance is to Britain, Kenya, Indonesia
BORN IN THE USA?

582 posted on 02/17/2010 9:52:43 PM PST by JustPiper (~I AM NOT A STINKIN' LIBERAL TEABAGGIN' BIRTHER!)
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To: reasonisfaith

I miss you here. you gave so many good links! I am posting them to the group, please join us? It’s not a message board so much as a collective link gathering spot.

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NOtoSocialism/


583 posted on 02/17/2010 10:58:50 PM PST by JustPiper (~I AM NOT A STINKIN' LIBERAL TEABAGGIN' BIRTHER!)
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To: ToTheMax

Any update?


584 posted on 02/17/2010 10:59:31 PM PST by JustPiper (~I AM NOT A STINKIN' LIBERAL TEABAGGIN' BIRTHER!)
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To: JustPiper

I’m right here with you.

Thanks for providing this.


585 posted on 02/18/2010 3:47:55 AM PST by reasonisfaith (Hey you noble leftists. If what you are doing is worth anything, it should be worth saying out loud.)
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To: JustPiper

Helpful links — thank you. I didn’t know about the OIC coverup or about Boxer’s trouble. I’ll try bringing my daily links/pings here now if that would be OK. Might fit well.

— FRegards ....


586 posted on 02/18/2010 4:30:42 AM PST by Arthur Wildfire! March (AyersKKKByrdFALNpardonsBpantherNightsticks.AmyBishopDelahuntDNCisTerrorismParty.)
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To: molybdenum; Impy; TigersEye; floriduh voter; snippy_about_it; ovrtaxt; syriacus; ...

(Audio) College Acquaintance: Young Obama Was ‘Pure Marxist Socialist’
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2453931/posts
“He definitely saw America as the enemy…”

World’s biggest coal company brings U.S. government to court in climate fraud
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2453800/posts

OBAMA TO OUTSPEND FDR...
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2453231/posts
http://cnsnews.com/commentary/article/61454
[Without a dire need, such as a war or competition, corruption and apathy overwhelm integrity.]

CONGRESS INCUMBENTS HIT HISTORIC LOWS IN POLLS...
http://www.nypost.com/p/news/national/congress_poll_ralfzutWeCzpTpC6x1wrhP

More links coming [in response to this post]
Is heavenly sight a sign from God?
‘Donnell & Garofalo Attack Fox News: Hannity is a Liar, Fox & Friends Hosts Are “douchebags
Another senior Taliban figure captured in Pakistan
Olbermann Still Playing the Race Card [Olbermann badmouths FR in video]
Organization of the Islamic Conference Coverup [This thread, actually]
Glenn Beck: Obama is lying about the Stimulus by intentionally confusing it with TARP
Russian Raptor exposes BO folly in defense budget
Brown Bit ... and Biden pulls back a nub. [Military tribunal debate — a few days old.]
ACORN funder confirmed to head Corporation for National and Community Service
Cash for Convicts? [Stimulus checks for first degree murderers]
— Lots of Loony Left links today
— Snowmageddon, economics/budget, ACORN, NYT scandal, Biden, Greece, more.


587 posted on 02/18/2010 4:51:47 AM PST by Arthur Wildfire! March (AyersKKKByrdFALNpardonsBpantherNightsticks.AmyBishopDelahuntDNCisTerrorismParty.)
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To: Arthur Wildfire! March

Organization of the Islamic Conference Coverup
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2437390/posts?page=580#580

Is heavenly sight a sign from God?
http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=125439
‘Truth is, we’re still struggling to understand what this means’
[God bless World-nEt-Daily]

Rush compares Obama’s lies about Stimulus to Hitler’s “The Big Lie”
http://www.therightscoop.com/rush-compares-obamas-lies-about-stimulus-to-hitlers-the-big-lie
[He also had hard hitting factoids about wasted Stimulus money yesterday, and when he read the NJ governor’s speech — most exciting budget speech I ever heard.]

Glenn Beck: Obama is lying about the Stimulus by intentionally confusing it with TARP
http://www.therightscoop.com/glenn-beck-obama-is-lying-about-the-stimulus-by-intentionally-confusing-it-with-tarp

Olbermann Still Playing the Race Card [Olbermann badmouths FR in video]
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2453370/posts

Another senior Taliban figure captured in Pakistan
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2453935/posts
[Afghan Taliban ‘shadow governor’]

Russian Raptor Killer is a “Game Changer”
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2453922/posts
“Moreover, the Obama administration’s decision to kill the F-22 air superiority fighter in favor of the multi-role F-35 Joint Strike Fighter may prove disastrous ...”

Brown Bit ... and Biden pulls back a nub.
http://www.newser.com/story/80964/scott-brown-joe-bidens-swipe-insulting.html
Scott Brown: Joe Biden’s Swipe About Lawyers Was ‘Insulting’

Boxer ALERT: Senator Don’t Call Me Ma’am is in trouble
http://michellemalkin.com/2010/02/16/senator-dont-call-me-maam-is-in-trouble

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Thug-ocracy
ACORN funder confirmed to head Corporation for National and Community Service
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2453467/posts

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Loony Leftists

Cash for Convicts? [Stimulus checks for first degree murderers]
http://www.foxnews.com/search-results/m/26044849/cash-for-convicts.htm

[Stimulus]
How Did John Stossel Get a Free Golf Cart From the Government ...
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,585395,00.html

John Brennan and the Politics of Capitulation
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2453934/posts
[Already a nut about freeing terrorists to kill again ... ]
“Brennan made even more reckless comments about our counterterrorism programs while pandering to one of the worst Muslim grievance-mongers and sharia peddlers in America.”

O’Donnell & Garofalo Attack Fox News: Hannity is a Liar, Fox & Friends Hosts Are “douchebags”
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2453918/posts

Feds mooove against farmer – for having cows!
http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=125390
Government complains: ‘You produce food for human consumption’

Teacher cries ‘hate crime’ over Bible left on desk
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/2453930/posts
http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=125374
‘I can’t believe the cruelty and ignorance of people sometimes’

Loony Left and Culture War [Headline Roundup]
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2449773/posts?page=2#2

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Drudge Headlines:

Biden: ‘Washington right now is broken’...
http://apnews.myway.com/article/20100217/D9DTU9VO0.html

STIMULUS ‘SAVED US’ [If this is saving us, forget it.]
http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE61G38U20100217

Dogs Do Bark at Obama Stimulus “No Jobs” Folly!
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2453932/posts

UPDATE: NY TIMES reporter resigns over plagiarism...
http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=CNG.31b20cd995550e68afb2d061a2fce29a.2c1&show_article=1

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Companies Begin to Pull Out of Climate Partnership...
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704804204575069440096420212.html

SNOWSTORM HORROR: Man dies after 10 calls to 911 over two days...
http://www.postgazette.com/pg/10048/1036403-53.stm

Blizzards destroy D.C. cherry blossoms...
http://www.wtop.com/?sid=1890319&nid=25

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Greece loses EU voting power in blow to sovereignty...
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/financetopics/financialcrisis/7252288/Greece-loses-EU-voting-power-in-blow-to-sovereignty.html

Merkel hits out at banks over Greek deals...
http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/8481e594-1c00-11df-a5e1-00144feab49a.html

MYSTERY: ‘Saudi prince’ questioned over murder of strangled servant found in London hotel...
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1251528/Saudi-prince-quizzed-murder-strangled-servant-London-Landmark-hotel.html

South Carolina Lawmaker Seeks to Ban Federal Currency...
http://www.cbsnews.com/blogs/2010/02/17/politics/politicalhotsheet/entry6217403.shtml
[My sympathies, but forget it.]

Red wine and dark chocolate cancer killers: researcher
http://www.physorg.com/news185087626.html

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Weird News

100 Teens Engage In ‘Flash Mob’ Brawl Inside Philly MACY’s...
http://cbs3.com/local/Center.City.Macys.2.1499306.html

‘Dead’ Colombian woman moves arm at funeral home...
http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D9DU3H2G0&show_article=1

Fake mourner stole 1200 pairs of shoes
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2453925/posts

Stray Hydrogen Atoms Become Deadly for Starships Traveling at Light Speed
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2453917/posts


588 posted on 02/18/2010 4:53:45 AM PST by Arthur Wildfire! March (AyersKKKByrdFALNpardonsBpantherNightsticks.AmyBishopDelahuntDNCisTerrorismParty.)
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To: molybdenum; Impy; TigersEye; floriduh voter; snippy_about_it; ovrtaxt; syriacus; ...

Flash !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Hot from Drudge:

UN CLIMATE CHIEF TO STEP ASIDE
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/02/18/AR2010021801331_pf.html


589 posted on 02/18/2010 4:58:34 AM PST by Arthur Wildfire! March (AyersKKKByrdFALNpardonsBpantherNightsticks.AmyBishopDelahuntDNCisTerrorismParty.)
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To: Arthur Wildfire! March; All

Climategate Headline Roundup II
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2451377/posts?page=32#32


590 posted on 02/18/2010 4:59:35 AM PST by Arthur Wildfire! March (AyersKKKByrdFALNpardonsBpantherNightsticks.AmyBishopDelahuntDNCisTerrorismParty.)
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To: reasonisfaith; JustPiper

Flash .... !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

UN CLIMATE CHIEF TO STEP ASIDE
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/02/18/AR2010021801331_pf.html


591 posted on 02/18/2010 5:00:53 AM PST by Arthur Wildfire! March (AyersKKKByrdFALNpardonsBpantherNightsticks.AmyBishopDelahuntDNCisTerrorismParty.)
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To: Arthur Wildfire! March

Everything this dangerous man has done in office is anti-American to the hilt. He is traitorous, and to impeach him we need to have the kind of proof to present to Congress—facts—not his traitorous words, but solid facts that show actions against America. Can we wait till 2012?


592 posted on 02/18/2010 11:00:59 AM PST by molybdenum ((Yes I posted this masterpeace))
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To: Arthur Wildfire! March

Has one President ever mentioned getting out of the UN? It’s the third rail: it was set up that way. Ronald Reagan (may God bless & keep him) was the ONLY president NOT A MEMBER OF THE CFR—Council on Foreign Relations. Correction here—Every President since Woodrow Wilson.


593 posted on 02/18/2010 11:52:44 AM PST by molybdenum ((Yes I posted this masterpeace))
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To: Arthur Wildfire! March

You can trust Leprechaun Bill O”Reilly as far as you can throw the dude. Same with little boy Beck.


594 posted on 02/18/2010 11:55:07 AM PST by molybdenum ((Yes I posted this masterpeace))
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To: Arthur Wildfire! March

Got the alert & smiled but they are still insisting that the cold IS global warming lol


595 posted on 02/18/2010 12:16:29 PM PST by JustPiper (~I AM NOT A STINKIN' LIBERAL TEABAGGIN' BIRTHER!)
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To: Arthur Wildfire! March

I would love that! Also I post your links at the ever growing bank at group -g-


596 posted on 02/18/2010 12:19:21 PM PST by JustPiper (~I AM NOT A STINKIN' LIBERAL TEABAGGIN' BIRTHER!)
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To: JustPiper

Wake Up America!

Be Ever Vigilant!


597 posted on 02/18/2010 12:27:35 PM PST by blackie
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To: blackie; MamaDearest; All

Got this eyeopener in email TY

The Census Is Getting Personal

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RsDhkPym01k

This is an expose’ of the Census Bureau. This video itemizes the fundamental legal questions that the Census Bureau refuses or fails to answer about its collection and use of personal information from every American (see questions below). This program aired on Matrix News Network (syndicated national television) in January of 2010.

Without any apparent authority the Census Bureau has expanded it’s information gathering activities. In addition to the once-in-10-years Census authorized by the Constitution, the Census Bureau conducts more in-depth “Surveys” of 250,000 Americans every month of every year. It has no Constitutional authority for that, in fact the Bureau is violating the 4th Amendment to the Bill of Rights by suggesting that Americans are “obligated” to provide any personal information whatsoever to government.

The Constitution allows the government to count people once every ten years, but does not require any American to BE COUNTED, OR TO PROVIDE ANY INFORMATION AT ALL, much less to provide personal information to the temporary worker and stranger who comes to your door with a Census Bureau badge.

Americans have been given very false impressions and presumptions of the authority of government to invade their lives. Even the Census takers themselves are sometimes misinformed of the limits of government.

Once your information is out there, it is out there for good. There is no such thing as a “secure database” in government. Government data is bought, lost, stolen and viewed every day by everyone from law enforcement to criminals at all levels of society. Spill your life to strangers at your front door or on the “questionnaire” at your own risk. Beyond that is the question, if we agree to pass over our private information to bureaucrats, is there any limit to what they will ask for next?

My reason for producing this video and for posting it on YouTube is that I see so many people everywhere who don’t seem to understand that the USA has become something very different than the country of our origin, and we have ALREADY lost many of the rights and freedoms that were given to us by nature (God?) and were protected for us again in our Constitution. Our Constitutional framers never imagined the spending, waste, taxation intrusion and aggression that our government now commits without restraint.

How did that happen? When our government pushes us we fail to push back so, after many decades of that, government simply sees no boundaries at all on its own presumed force and authority.

It is our government. It is our servant. Government can have no authority but that which it derives from us. But government employees, officials and representatives do need to be reminded of that on a regular basis.

There is a pdf file of the Census Bureau’s AMERICAN COMMUNITY SURVEY Questionnairre at:
http://www.census.gov/acs/www/SBasics...
If you are not disturbed by the questions they will ask you then you are not reading it carefully.

QUESTIONS THAT THE CENSUS BUREAU REFUSED OR FAILED TO ANSWER (from Jerry Day’s Matrix News Network segment: “The Census Is Getting Personal”) I strongly suggest asking these questions of your Census Taker, especially if they show up with an “American Community Survey” form:

1) The Constitution authorizes government to count people but it does not authorize the taking of private information or even the names of individuals. From where does the Census Bureau derive authority to demand our private information?

2) Is there any limit to the amount and type of private information that the Census bureau may demand and collect?

3) Under what Constitutional authority does the Census Bureau collect information now from 250,000 people per month of every year?

4) The 4th Amendment to the Constitution prohibits government search and seizure of private information without a court warrant based on probable cause. Current Census policies violate that Amendment do they not?

5) By what Constitutional authority does the Census Bureau threaten penalties for failure to provide personal information?

6) The Census Bureau claims it maintains privacy of personal information. Are there any circumstances under which law enforcement or spy agencies can access Census information?

7) Since presumably Census data may be subpoenaed by law enforcement, may individuals refuse to answer questions according to the fifth Amendment?

8) Why has the Census Bureau decided to collect GPS coordinates for every home?

9) Virtually every government database has been either lost, hacked or compromised. Would the Census Bureau’s claim of data security not be an outright lie or at best highly improbable?

10) How would the Census Bureau locate, protect and compensate those individuals whose data becomes compromised?

More about the Video Producer at:
http://www.jerryday.com/


598 posted on 02/18/2010 1:08:07 PM PST by JustPiper (~I AM NOT A STINKIN' LIBERAL TEABAGGIN' BIRTHER!)
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If you would like to be added/removed from this pinglist email me

599 posted on 02/18/2010 1:09:53 PM PST by JustPiper (~I AM NOT A STINKIN' (LIBERAL )TEABAGGIN' BIRTHER!)
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To: reasonisfaith

Good to see you. as disheartening as what’s happening to America, good to know your here, YW & TY


600 posted on 02/18/2010 1:11:54 PM PST by JustPiper (~I AM NOT A STINKIN' (LIBERAL )TEABAGGIN' BIRTHER!)
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