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Mark Levin: I have no idea what philosophy Glenn Beck is promoting. And neither does he
Mark Levin Fan ^ | February 21, 2010 | Mark R. Levin

Posted on 02/21/2010 1:14:06 PM PST by Sergeant Tim

I was invited to be the opening speaker at Saturday's CPAC session. I had accepted but then, to my amazement, I learned that the John Birch Society would be one of many co-sponsors. This takes the big-tent idea many steps too far for me. So, I withdrew. Apparently, others were not so moved. That's fine. But it wasn't for me. Bill Buckley and Barry Goldwater, among others, chased the Birchers from the movement decades ago. And they're not a part of the movement. So, to give them a booth at CPAC was boneheaded.

I want to commend Bill Bennett for his wise piece this morning on the Corner. I agree with him.

I have no idea what philosophy Glenn Beck is promoting. And neither does he. It's incoherent. One day it's populist, the next it's libertarian bordering on anarchy, next it's conservative but not really, etc. And to what end? I believe he has announced that he is no longer going to endorse candidates because our problems are bigger than politics. Well, of course, our problems are not easily dissected into categories, but to reject politics is to reject the manner in which we try to organize ourselves. This is as old as Plato and Aristotle. Why would conservatives choose to surrender the political battlefield to our adversaries -- who are trashing this society -- when we must retake it in order to preserve our society? Philosophy, politics, culture, family, etc., are all of one. Edmund Burke, among others, wrote about it extensively, and far better that I possibly can. But all elements of the civil society require our defense. Besides, why preach such a strategy when conservatism is on the rise and the GOP is acting more responsibly?

Moreover, when he does discuss politics, which, ironically, is often, how can he claim today that there is no difference between the two parties when, but for the Republicans in Congress, government-run health care, cap-and-trade, card check, and a long list of other disastrous policies would already be law? The GOP is becoming more conservative thanks to the grass-roots movement and a political uprising across the country, which has even reached into New Jersey and Massachusetts. Why keep pretending otherwise? My only conclusion is that he is promoting a third party or some third way, which is counter-productive to defeating Obama and the Democrat Congress. These are perilous times and this kind of an approach will keep the statists in power for decades.

And what of his flirtations with Ron Paul's lunacy respecting America's supposed provocations with her enemies, including al-Qaeda? Why should such a fatal defect in thinking be ignored? Do we conservatives agree with this?

Finally, Beck is fond of congratulating himself for being the only or the first host to criticize George Bush's spending. This is demonstrably false. I not only attacked his spending, but the creation of the Homeland Security Department, the prescription drug add-on for Medicare, his "moderate" tax cuts, as well as his nomination of Harriet Miers to the Supreme Court, "comprehensive immigration reform," and so forth. And I was not alone -- Rush and Sean did the same, for example. And as someone who fought liberal Republicans in the trenches when campaigning for Reagan in 1976 and 1980, I don't need lectures from Beck, who was nowhere to be found, about big-spending Republicans. But this is not about me, or Beck, or Beck's past drunkenness (which he endlessly wears as some kind of badge of honor). It is about preserving our society for our children and grandchildren. Beck spent precious little time aiming fire at Obama-Pelosi-Reid in his speech, and it is they who are destroying our country.

On as a positive note, I am personally happy to see that Beck has cleaned up his public act -- as best I can tell, no more boiling fake frogs on TV or pretending to pour gasoline on someone -- and the rest of it. But I do think his speech, which contained nuggets of truth heard before and read elsewhere, including on Rush's show and in my book and many other books, may have distracted from some of the more compelling and coherent speeches at the event, including Marco Rubio's superb speech. I fear the media will see to this. I hope not.


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To: svcw

Placemark


1,061 posted on 02/22/2010 7:24:47 AM PST by Tennessee Nana
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To: big'ol_freeper
Levin:Beck::Get off the phone you big dope:dope

Love it! ;)

1,062 posted on 02/22/2010 7:25:19 AM PST by greyfoxx39 ("The Economy Is So Bad, Even 'Rosy Scenario' Lost Her Job"-Jim Geraghty)
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To: restornu
Oh, good grief. You really need to get over yourself. The fact that you can post: My religious freedom is being infringe upon every time I go to the News post as well! Means there is no infringement. Do they teach you in Sunday School how to play the victim?
1,063 posted on 02/22/2010 7:25:45 AM PST by svcw (If you are going to quote the Bible know what you are quoting.)
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To: Arizona Carolyn
turnout from Mohave County was excellent, the event was sold out.

Excellent! Go JD!

1,064 posted on 02/22/2010 7:26:34 AM PST by greyfoxx39 ("The Economy Is So Bad, Even 'Rosy Scenario' Lost Her Job"-Jim Geraghty)
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To: ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas

Call out the “so-called Republicans” by name is what we are saying. (BTW, Mark pegged Arnold correctly on day 1.) Stop selling books using “GOP” and “Republicans” as curse words.


1,065 posted on 02/22/2010 7:28:54 AM PST by Sergeant Tim (In the War on Terror, there is no place to run from here.)
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To: af_vet_rr

Beck is Beck. Labels are just labels.

As to the advice that I should stop listening — I agree! And I have been, but I do so in stages.

The end stage of non-listening is to be Smerconished. In that stage if I hear the voice of Smerconish on a promo or ad — I immediately switch stations. Beck’s not at that stage yet.


1,066 posted on 02/22/2010 7:30:55 AM PST by bvw
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To: perfect_rovian_storm; holdonnow
John McCain played a large role in helping the GOP lose its way and we all know that quote from him means something different to him than it does to any conservative.

And we all know that without the prevailing winds blowing the way they are, during a tough primary no less, John McCain wouldn't even bother with this charade. He'd be on the Sunday talk shows extolling the virtues of the opposition's ideas, and of himself for reaching across the aisle to make them reality.

McCain is the progressive disease Beck is referring to. As the long as the GOP insists on putting him and Lindsay Graham front-and-center and making them the face of the "loyal opposition", while relegating people like Coburn and DeMint to the "back bench", this line of criticism is entirely warranted.

1,067 posted on 02/22/2010 7:31:55 AM PST by WhistlingPastTheGraveyard (Some men just want to watch the world burn.)
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To: svcw

LDS SOP


1,068 posted on 02/22/2010 7:40:57 AM PST by ejonesie22 (Palin bashers on freerepublic, like a fart in Church...)
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To: Canedawg
Thanks for the correction...

Levin has here expressed concern that this potential self-ordained “leader” may not have a cohesive political/philosophical policy with which to lead the Tea Party. And that is a valid concern.

Excellent point, and I note the "self-ordained".

One might consider the term "grandiosity" as linked to alcoholism, as well as the mormon belief that all "ordained into the mormon priesthood" males consider themselves to be "gods in the making".

"If a man marry a wife by my word, which is my law, and by the new and everlasting covenant, and it is sealed unto them by the Holy Spirit of promise, by him who is anointed, unto whom I have appointed this power and the keys of this priesthood; … and if [they] abide in my covenant …

“Then shall they be gods, because they have no end; therefore shall they be from everlasting to everlasting … because they have all power, and the angels are subject unto them”

From LDS. org, official mormon website

Beck has done some work that is admirable, however one must not overlook the forces driving him and wonder what is his eventual personal goal. One must also look into those for whom he has expressed great admiration, such as Cleon Skousen.


1,069 posted on 02/22/2010 7:43:38 AM PST by greyfoxx39 ("The Economy Is So Bad, Even 'Rosy Scenario' Lost Her Job"-Jim Geraghty)
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To: ejonesie22

,-)


1,070 posted on 02/22/2010 7:44:44 AM PST by svcw (If you are going to quote the Bible know what you are quoting.)
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To: Sergeant Tim

Beck + Levin + Bennett = Recipe for the resurgence of the Party of Ronald Reagan, via many many people and without one leader. This is a different time in history and getting America back to the time of Ronald Reagan has to be done a bit differently, so that all those Republicans in Congress who’s spines were so weak that they GOT us to this place, should be scared straight, and those that HAVE the spines to get us back on track can then emerge and be a louder voice than ever...thus getting us to where we need to be. I truly believe that Glenn (if he’s smart) will read Bill Bennett’s words and learn and evolve from them. If this doesn’t go to a third party place (which I agree would be disastrous), this will be like I say a perfect blend of thoughts and ideas, the right recipe, to get us home to the days of Ronald Reagan.


1,071 posted on 02/22/2010 7:59:45 AM PST by NordP (COMMON SENSE CONSERVATIVES - Love of Country, Less Govt, Stop Spending, No Govt Run Health Care!!!)
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To: perfect_rovian_storm

Enjoy the meatballs from that meat head. I digress.

You obviously have not tuned in lately (or often) or you’d know Mark endorsed McCain’s opponent, Hayworth, and had him on twice during the past month. And his “pissing” contest with Beck is well-based.


1,072 posted on 02/22/2010 8:08:06 AM PST by Sergeant Tim (In the War on Terror, there is no place to run from here.)
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To: restornu
to grip because I am LDS!

Call the whaaaammmmbulance!

1,073 posted on 02/22/2010 8:16:41 AM PST by svcw (If you are going to quote the Bible know what you are quoting.)
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To: Sergeant Tim

I’ve read through many of the posts here and come away with this conclusion; Each of them has a place in informing/educating the populace with regards to what has/is happening to our country.

I view Mark as more of the college professor and Glenn as the Middle/High School teacher.

Different types of presentations to their respective audiences.

I don’t watch Glenn too much, listen to Mark whenever I can, have read Liberty and Tyranny.

The point I’m trying to make I guess, is that there is room for both as long as their purpose is to inform/educate about the original liberties and constitutional values we conservatives hold dear.


1,074 posted on 02/22/2010 8:22:46 AM PST by SZonian (There are times when we have to tell loved ones truths that hurt. We do so because we care for them.)
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To: svcw
...to grip because I am LDS!

It that one of those SECRET ones the holders of a TEMPLE RECOMMEND© learn when they finally are shown the MEAT of MORMONism?

1,075 posted on 02/22/2010 8:37:01 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: SZonian

Middle/High School? More like Kindergarten, I think...


1,076 posted on 02/22/2010 8:37:49 AM PST by MarkLevinFan (Libs suck!)
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To: SZonian
Different types of presentations to their respective audiences.

Amen!

1,077 posted on 02/22/2010 8:37:56 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: greyfoxx39; restornu
I call this constantly being hound by Godzilla; Utah Binger; ejonesie22; greyfoxx39; Elsie is bias and discriminating! My religious freedom is being infringe upon every time I go to the News post as well!


1,078 posted on 02/22/2010 8:45:40 AM PST by Utah Binger (Mount Carmel Utah, Freeper Picnic in Planning)
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To: Elsie

Apparently so.


1,079 posted on 02/22/2010 8:49:12 AM PST by svcw (If you are going to quote the Bible know what you are quoting.)
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To: MarkLevinFan

Okay, I didn’t really want to go that low, TRYING to stay out of the flame wars, but if it’s successful in informing/educating, then so be it.

Look at the sorry state of affairs that is our so-called “educational system” and how little of our actual history is taught. How little, if anything, many students know of the Constitution. If folks can learn from Beck as opposed to Levin, I’ll take that over them learning nothing. It should serve to at least whet their appetite for more.

Like I said, I’m a Mark fan, not so much with Beck.


1,080 posted on 02/22/2010 8:49:20 AM PST by SZonian (There are times when we have to tell loved ones truths that hurt. We do so because we care for them.)
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