Hawaii governor announces 'exact' place of Obama birth

World Net Daily ^ | 5-5-10 | Joe Kovacs

[STARWISE]

'The question has been asked and answered, and I think we should all move on now'

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..... the governor of Hawaii is now publicly voicing the alleged exact location of Obama's birth, saying "the president was, in fact, born at Kapi'olani Hospital in Honolulu, Hawaii"

The disclosure is believed to be the first time a state government official has declared the precise place where Obama was born, despite numerous other published claims, including some for a different hospital in Honolulu.

The remark came Sunday night when Gov. Linda Lingle, a Republican, was interviewed on New York's WABC Radio by host Rabbi Shmuley Boteach. (The subject was addressed at the 77-minute mark HERE.)

[bgill]

i dont care if he was born on the steps of Congress, his father was a British Subject which automatically means he is not Natural Born, which automatically disqualifies him from being President. unless of course Barack 1st aint his Daddy??

In Dreams, he claims to have seen and touched his BC, so if Sr. isn't papa, then the usurper has lied. As we all know in any good court case when the opposing attorney asks, "were you lying then, or are you lying now", your goose is cooked.

[melancholy]

The fact of the matter is that both issues are vital - the birth place because Obama and everybody in a position of power has lied to us all along and they must not be allowed to get away with it......

Exactly right. This is why I always maintain that it's not over when "we take our country back." It's the beginning of the end of Communists/(Pro)regressives/Marxists/etc. who should be outlawed and brought to justice.

The people who caused the meltdown of the economy, Republicans and Democrats, should have their immunity lifted, tried and sentenced to jail. That will reassert the rule of law.

Other entities such as the Forth Estate should be tried as who they really are, the Fifth Column. This media is totally responsible for hiding the truth from We The People and spreading damaging lies, uncovering intelligence secrets and jeopardizing our national security.

We should have a law, which will afford politicians who shredded the Constitution no constitutional protection whatsoever. This will expedite said trials and bring the bastards to justice.

Since 0kaka and his minions want a police state, let's give them a taste of one when we "take our country back."

[null and void]

The Nordyke announcement is in the Advertiser but not the Star-Bulletin - as were a lot of other births. What does that tell you?

They are Shrödinger's children?

[ConjunctionJunction]

Andy Martin believes that he is the trigger:

http://contrariancommentary.blogspot.com/2010/05/honolulu-news-conference-thursday.html

I think it’s more likely that LTC Lakin is the trigger.

[butterdezillion]

I actually had a publisher tell me I should write a book. I doubt that anybody who really should read it ever would though. It’s a lot of dry details that you have to get pretty absorbed in for it to make any sense. The devil is in the details and most people don’t have the interest or discipline to worry about details.

My 7th-grade son is supposed to write a 5-paragraph persuasive essay. He chose to write on the global warming hoax (partly because his language arts teacher chewed him out in front of the class after he muttered under his breath that Al Gore is an idiot, in response to having to watch “An Inconvenient Truth” in LA class on Earth Day). He researched and found lots of facts that ought to be convincing.

I talked with him about the fact that his language arts teacher had told him he was deluding himself if he thinks that global warming isn’t true. I said I wished that he could ask her to give a 5-paragraph persuasive essay citing evidence and refuting the counter-arguments. In the end, she won’t believe any of his facts because in her mind she will not allow herself to believe that the people who are supposed to be trustworthy - the scientific community - lie to her.

I counseled him to concentrate on showing that the two major mechanisms for accountability within the scientific community have been totally compromised on this issue - as shown in the leaked e-mails: critical peer review was deliberately suppressed, and the raw data was destroyed rather than exposing it to scrutiny.

The details are important for proving a case, but before anybody is willing to even look at the details, they have to get over this psychological need to believe that the people in trusted positions are actually trustworthy.

My own sister told me several years ago when I was discussing the evidence regarding Vince Foster’s death that she just could not go about her life happily if she believed that law enforcement covers for crooks. She needs the illusion of safety in order to feel secure.

This is why the Obama people will never get into the details. They keep stressing that a conspiracy this big is crazy to even consider. They’re playing the emotional game even though the facts totally show that the people who were supposed to be trusted have actually been lying to us and breaking laws.

Governor Heineman responded to the facts I sent him with this:

“My understanding is that President Obama was born in Hawaii and, therefore, has satisfied the eligibility requirements to hold the office of the President. I trust that those who confirm this information for federal elections have done their job accurately.”

He totally blew off the facts by saying that it’s somebody else’s job to check it all out and he trusts that they did their job.

I’m afraid that this would be the response of most people. An expose’ on John Edwards can sell, because people expect politicians to have affairs and then lie about it, and their doing so doesn’t impact national security. To be told that the entire government has deliberately lied to you in order to put an enemy in the White House.... is more than most people are willing to even consider. To them, the details are a waste of time because they will never let those details reach their logical conclusion.

I think it was Hitler’s propaganda minister, Goebbels, who said that the people will more easily swallow a big lie than a small one. He was dead right - as is evidenced by both the global warming hoax and Obama’s eligibility issue.

Hopefully seeing how Hasan and the Underwear Bomber were handled - especially in contrast to how grandma Tea Partiers have been handled - will allow people to see that to people who hate America, national security is just as much a game and giggles as illicit sex is to somebody like John Edwards. And THAT should be alarming. I hope we’re not past the ability to be alarmed. I thought 9-11 would have taught us something.

[bgill]

One of Obama’s books mentions that he found the scrolled BC in a chest at home or something. If that is true, I would think his grannie would have had it.

Remember when he had to leave the campaign trail to rush to typical white granny's bedside? I can't find the article that had a timeline but iirc he spent all of about 45 minutes in typical white granny's apartment. Sorry, but if you or I traveled halfway around the world thinking this would be the last time I'd see my granny, I would think we'd spend every minute I could with her. So, if he wasn't there for her, then what was he there for? Could be he was rummaging in that closet again to get his hands on that BC.

Here's one article that states he was there 2 hours but there's another source that has a minute to minute timeline of everywhere he went, including a round of golf.

http://the.honoluluadvertiser.com/article/2008/Oct/25/ln/hawaii810250357.html

[TheCipher]

I am glad you mentioned that. I was going to also ( I remembered when that happened ), but couldn’t find the link to the original story.

[Drew68]

What is going to happen when someone wants to run for president who was born of a mother who was artificially inseminated by an anonymous donor?

Or what if the candidate was adopted?

These questions just show how absurd this argument is.

[bgill]

I personally suspect it lists his race as "White", since that was the race of his mother.

Oh, puleez. Everyone knows his mother was white making him part white, yet you propose he's spent $2 million to cover up a known fact?!?

[little jeremiah]

Baby’s race isn’t listed, just parents.

[rxsid]

"As most of us here know, they are all above the law.

This is dangerously incorrect.

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Not following ya here. Are you suggesting that all the relevant people involved in this issue (i.e. Barry, Gov. Lingle, Pelosi, etc) ARE being lawful and truthful?

[butterdezillion]

There’s an image of the Nordyke announcement from the Advertiser posted various places; if you Google it you can find it.

I have images of the Star-Bulletin well before and beyond the Aug 16th date for the Advertiser’s Nordyke announcement. I’ve actually typed in all the names and cross-checked them all. Nordykes are not anywhere in the S-B.

Births are announced in one paper as far as 3 weeks apart from when they were announced in the other paper, and a substantial number were only announced in one of the papers. As Fred Nerks has pointed out, the number of births announced come nowhere near the total number of births the HDOH told the CDC they had records for in Aug 1961.

My conclusion: There is no way those announcements came from the state registrar’s office.

I actually have a UIPA request to the HDOH that they are required to answer by the end of the day today, asking for the documents they relied on to tell Lori Starfelt that they sent birth announcements to the newspapers in 1961. They probably won’t respond; they’re not even pretending to obey the rules at this point. And I already have the legal documents showing that they didn’t start that practice until 1976. At this point all they can say is that no records exist (acknowledging that they didn’t send lists to the papers) or that they didn’t tell Starfelt that - which opens up a whole ‘nother can of worms.

I’ve got a ton of information that I could post on - and intend to post on - but there’s some information that the HDOH refuses to disclose which would prove their active participation in falsifying records on Obama’s behalf. So far they’ve claimed that records required to be permanent no longer exist, in order to not have to disclose them. I’d really like to have those records first, before disclosing what I already have.

We are not dealing with honest players at all in the Hawaii government. They are part of perpetrating this big hoax.

[null and void]

My own sister told me several years ago when I was discussing the evidence regarding Vince Foster’s death that she just could not go about her life happily if she believed that law enforcement covers for crooks. She needs the illusion of safety in order to feel secure.

Jay: Man, we ain't got time for this cover-up bullshit! I don't know whether or not you've forgotten, but there's an Arquillian Battle Cruiser that's about to...
Kay: There's always an Arquillian Battle Cruiser, or a Corillian Death Ray, or an intergalactic plague that is about to wipe out all life on this miserable little planet, and the only way these people can get on with their happy lives is that they Do... Not... Know about it!

[BJClinton]

This will do nothing to prevent thread hijacks by birthers.

[bgill]

I find it interesting that some of the same people who were willing to accept, uncritically, the word of a Kenyan minister about Obama’s birthplace... http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2491078/posts ...are now demanding that a different government official provide proof of his statements. I guess it just depends on who you want to believe.

I don't care where he was born but I do want to see the real BC to verify who was named as papa. He and everyone else claims it's Obama Sr. and if that's true, then Jr. needs to be shown the door. But then you knew that already but are trying to start something.

[Sloane_Ranger]

I cannot get over his granny, the keeper of the family secrets,..dying the day before the elections. I mean...how coincidental is that ??

[my_pointy_head_is_sharp]

"Authorities in Hawaii have provided an electronic record of Obama's birth because the paper copy was destroyed in a fire which wiped out much of the state's archives."

Is there a newspaper account of the fire? When did it happen?

Was an electronic record of the B.C. made before the fire? What is the date of the electronic record?

How convenient that his paper B.C. was destroyed. Why is this the first time that I'm hearing about it?

[bgill]

My kids did a class about presidents and my oldest asked the teacher how did obama do at school. guess what , the teacher had no clue what grades

He obviously wasn't the valedictorian or salutatorian or suma cum anything or an honor student or in the National Honor society or even on the B honor roll because that would have made headlines. I suppose we could ask the dudes from his choom gang but I doubt they'd remember. Your kid should ask what choom is.

[edge919]

I wouldn’t underplay the interest your book would have. There are already a lot of people trying capitalize on the Obama eligibility issue in different ways. I’m pretty sure there’s a market.

BTW, if your son needs a tip on global warming, have him look at this studay, “Timing of Atmospheric CO2 and Antarctic Temperature Changes Across Termination III.” In this project, they measured CO2 in ice bubbles in the Antarctic and found out that CO2 levels lagged behind changes in temperature levels by 600 to 800 years. They tried to play this off by saying temperature cycles last about 5,000 years, so that the rest of the time, CO2 is still in phase with temperature increases, and would still be consistent as being a forcing factor. That’s pretty misleading because it fails to note the the lag is at the beginning of a temperature increase and at a decrease. In other words, lags occur at least 600 years at the beginning and another 600 years at the end of a full cycle ... which would be 1,200 out of 5,000 years ... that’s 40 percent of the cycle. The correlation period is only 60 percent of the cycle which would better suggests that temperature increases force the increase in CO2 levels, not the other way around. When temperatures go up, CO2 starts rising 600 years later. When it goes down, C02 starts falling 600 years later. In modern times, we’ve seen less than 150 years worth of data and nothing in significant levels to prove any verifiable deviation from what occurs naturally.

Here’s a link to the study.

http://icebubbles.ucsd.edu/Publications/CaillonTermIII.pdf