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RNC AIMS TO DRAW OUT THE (2012) NOMINATING PROCESS (Which candidate benefits?)
Hotline on Call ^ | 7/1/2010 | Reid Wilson

Posted on 07/03/2010 2:51:17 PM PDT by Brices Crossroads

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To: reasonisfaith

“Kinda sounds like a Romney-driven agenda”—complete with all the doublespeak. Supposed to limit big-money candidates but actually helps them by forcing a drawn-out fight.


61 posted on 07/04/2010 2:44:48 PM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: JApost

And how many of those paid Romneyites are regular Palin bashers here on FR? More than a few, I imagine.


62 posted on 07/04/2010 2:47:44 PM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: 9YearLurker

Well now we know why they’re so freaked out. They know where all of us stand...and it ain’t with Romney.

Honestly, I find that MANY Americans outside of “the base” see right through Romney’s fakeness.


63 posted on 07/04/2010 3:24:21 PM PDT by CondoleezzaProtege
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To: Victoria Delsoul

What’s your rationale for having the GOP-heavy states go first?


64 posted on 07/04/2010 3:37:27 PM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: malos
Thanks for the window dressing GOP

This window dressing brought to you by...

Today's GOP. Our motto: "We're really, really, nice, and not nearly as liberal as the Democrats - honest!"


65 posted on 07/04/2010 3:48:27 PM PDT by COBOL2Java (Obama is the least qualified guy inas whatever room he walks into.)
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To: COBOL2Java

Where’s that pic of Obama hanging the curtains?


66 posted on 07/04/2010 4:30:17 PM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: 9YearLurker

The rationale is so that more liberal states don’t get the jump on the GOP’s nominating process. Winning the early primaries is big for a candidate, and I’d prefer it if states that went most heavily Republican in the prior presidential election get their votes in early in the process, rather than just anytime they come up on the schedule.


67 posted on 07/04/2010 7:04:07 PM PDT by Victoria Delsoul
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To: Brices Crossroads

Hmmmm.


68 posted on 07/04/2010 7:06:35 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: CondoleezzaProtege
Sarah Palin is my choice. Will write her name in if necessary. Lifelong Republican who has never cared who the RNC preferred.
69 posted on 07/04/2010 7:43:25 PM PDT by jerry639
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To: Grunthor
Close the open damned primaries!

They ain't gonna do it. Now what?

70 posted on 07/04/2010 7:45:45 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (Freedom.)
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To: EternalVigilance

Close the open damned primaries!

They ain’t gonna do it. Now what?


More McCains.


71 posted on 07/05/2010 7:05:21 AM PDT by Grunthor (I like you but when the zombies chase us, I'm tripping you.)
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To: Grunthor

Yep.


72 posted on 07/05/2010 7:32:59 AM PDT by EternalVigilance (Freedom.)
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To: EternalVigilance

Only thing to do is take over the party from the ground up which is what I believe the TEA party protests are also about, not just protesting Obamas’ policies, but liberal policies of any party. Frankly if they were not willing to take on the GOP insiders, there wouldn’t be as much interest in them.


73 posted on 07/05/2010 7:39:20 AM PDT by Grunthor (I like you but when the zombies chase us, I'm tripping you.)
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To: Grunthor

Even if you “take over the party from the ground up” they still won’t do what you want.

95% of the Republican delegates in Idaho, one of the most conservative states, have wanted to close their primary for several years - they voted to do so repeatedly - and still the party leadership, the ones with the real power, have prevented them from doing so. They’ve fought it every step of the way, even to the point of tying it all up in expensive court proceedings.

If you can’t do it in Idaho, you can’t do it anywhere.

When will you realize it isn’t working and do something different?


74 posted on 07/05/2010 7:51:33 AM PDT by EternalVigilance (Freedom.)
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To: EternalVigilance

Do something different like what?


75 posted on 07/05/2010 8:35:07 AM PDT by Grunthor (I like you but when the zombies chase us, I'm tripping you.)
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To: Grunthor

Well, the first step doesn’t have much of anything to do with process, per se. It has to do with principle, and adherence to principle.

No matter what kind of process you have, if compromise of things that should never be compromised is considered normal and acceptable, the process will pretty much lead us to where we are now no matter what it looks like.

Until conservatives, and most specifically Christians, return to America’s fundamental founding principles and resolve to never compromise them again, come hell or high water, nothing will change. And they can’t just talk about it, they have to actually do it. (Which involves some serious pain and self-sacrifice, by the way.)

But, in any case, the process itself is definitely broken, too. And its brokenness was predictable, since that process was fundamentally flawed all along.

Under our current system, the existing parties are all what I call open associations. If your house is open to anyone who wants to walk in off the street, why would you be surprised when unsavory characters have moved in and taken over? Why would you be surprised when your house is now unlivable? If your army opens its recruitment to the enemy, why the shock when the enemy is running your army?

So, to review:

1. You must refuse to compromise non-negotiable principles any longer, no matter what.

2. You must rethink the entire political process as it exists, and be prepared to do the hard work of creating a closed association that will then give you the opportunity to enforce adherence to non-negotiable principle.

3. And last but certainly not least, you must do the even harder work of actually building the organization that is needed to succeed electorally, one that is led by patriots who have made the same resolves, and who have the gumption to stick to it.

Frankly, I could write a book on this subject, but don’t have time. I’m busy doing the above, and more. This brief post is the best I could do for now in the midst of a very busy day. There’s a lot more to it, but that’s a start.

If you wanted to come on the America’s Summit call that I host every Tuesday and Thursday night and go into these things in more depth, I’d be happy to accommodate. Just FReepmail me and I’ll get you the information you need to join in.


76 posted on 07/05/2010 9:22:41 AM PDT by EternalVigilance (Freedom.)
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To: AdmSmith; Berosus; bigheadfred; blueyon; Convert from ECUSA; dervish; Ernest_at_the_Beach; ...
Thanks Brices Crossroads.
The new rule, written after months of negotiations among senior members of the national committee, would push the beginning of the presidential nominating process back a month, to Feb., as part of a plan to prevent wealthy candidates from stealing the nomination. GOP caucuses and primaries would be held that month in the 4 early states -- the rule codifies IA, NH, SC and NV as states allowed to hold contests in a "pre-window." Every other state would be allowed to hold their nominating contests on or after the first Tuesday in March. But there's an important caveat: Any state that holds its nominating contest before the first day of April -- that is, any state that rushes to front-load their nominating process -- will have to award their delegates on a proportional basis... to eliminate a process that rewards wealthy candidates with high name recognition.

77 posted on 07/05/2010 12:36:51 PM PDT by SunkenCiv ("Fools learn from experience. I prefer to learn from the experience of others." -- Otto von Bismarck)
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To: Brices Crossroads; ml/nj; firebrand; SunkenCiv; Clintonfatigued; InterceptPoint; Impy; Lady GOP; ...
Winner-take-all primaries should be abandoned altogether, since they figure to give an unfair advantage to a single RINO candidate running against two or more conservatives who will divide the conservative vote. McCain would probably not have been the 2008 nominee had it not been for that winner-take-all system in too many states.
78 posted on 07/05/2010 2:44:57 PM PDT by justiceseeker93
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To: Brices Crossroads; ml/nj; firebrand; SunkenCiv; Clintonfatigued; InterceptPoint; Impy; Lady GOP; ...
Winner-take-all primaries should be abandoned altogether, since they figure to give an unfair advantage to a single RINO candidate running against two or more conservatives who will divide the conservative vote. McCain would probably not have been the 2008 nominee had it not been for that winner-take-all system in too many states.
79 posted on 07/05/2010 2:46:49 PM PDT by justiceseeker93
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To: justiceseeker93
I thought a big problem was all the "Open" primaries.

ML/NJ

80 posted on 07/05/2010 3:42:59 PM PDT by ml/nj
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