Posted on 10/12/2010 7:47:11 AM PDT by ex-Texan
As Eddy Chiles so eloquently put it, "I'm mad as hell and I'm not going to take it any more."
Don't worry.
Very soon, within 12 months I'd say, the only senior citizens left alive will be those who are being supported by their own jewelry and the largess of their children.
Great points you two.
More than plausible.
Thx.
How much it would be worth in a 401 k is neither here nor there. Remember, a 401k does not offer you insurance for your family and children from day 1.
I’m certainly not calling SS some great deal financially. But one reason it is not is because it overpays some and under pays others.
Most older folks today (70 +) will get back much more than they and their employer ever payed in.
Your mindsdet seems to be that anyone who ever paid in a cent should be forever entitled to a lifetime of raises.
Let them take it out of your share then.
Of course there is no “lock box”. But, if this is not to be outright welfare, I suggesy they get money out only in proportion to what they put in.
Think they’d buy that after they found out it meeant they’re already out of money?
Or do you think they’d demand limitless additional funds anyway?
If it’s the latter, then it’s nothing but welfare.
No cost of living raise for seniors, but BILLIONS for jihad:
Obama’s 2009 Supplemental Appropriations for Iraq, Afghanistan, Pakistan, and Pandemic Flu was revised and “passed by the full committee.” Not sure what the next step is, but based on the summary, it gives billions http://creepingsharia.wordpress.com/2009/05/13/obamas-supplemental-bill-passes-gives-billions-to-ene...
of U.S. taxpayer dollars to countries and entities that support Sharia law and/or harbor, hide and support those who want to destroy the U.S. and our allies.
Read the summary from David Obey’s office that was quietly released last week with nary a word from any media.
• $3.6 billion, matching the request, to expand and improve capabilities of the Afghan security forces
• $400 million, as requested, to build the counterinsurgency capabilities of the Pakistani security forces
• Afghanistan: $1.52 billion, $86 million above the request
• West Bank and Gaza: $665 million in bilateral economic, humanitarian, and security assistance for the West Bank and Gaza
• Jordan: $250 million, $250 million above the request, including $100 million for economic and $150 million for security assistance
• Egypt: $360 million, $310 million above the request, including $50 million for economic assistance, $50 million for border security, and $260 million for security assistance
• Pakistan: $1.9 billion, $591 million above the request
• Iraq: $968 million, $336 million above the request
• Oversight: $20 million, $13 million above the request, to expand oversight capacity of the State Department, USAID, and the Special Inspector General for Afghanistan to review programs in Afghanistan, Pakistan and Iraq
• Lebanon: $74 million
• International Food Assistance: $500 million, $200 million above the request, for PL 480 international food assistance to alleviate suffering during the global economic crisis
• Refugee Assistance: $343 million, $50 million above the request, …including humanitarian assistance for Gaza. Funding for the UN Relief and Works Agency programs in the West Bank and Gaza is limited to $119 million (Note: Gaza = Hamas)
• Disaster Assistance: $200 million to avert famines and provide life-saving assistance during natural disasters and for internally displaced people around the world, including Somalia, Zimbabwe, Ethiopia, the Middle East and South Asia
• Peacekeeping: $837 million for United Nations peacekeeping operations, including an expanded mission in the Democratic Republic of the Congo and a new mission in Chad and the Central African Republic
• Department of Justice: $17 million, matching the request, for counter-terrorism activities and to provide training and assistance for the Iraqi criminal justice system
The mainstream media remains silent on this but the International News has now picked up the story http://www.thenews.com.pk/top_story_detail.asp?Id=22164
— and then there is Obama’s $108 billion IMF bailout scheme http://michellemalkin.com/2009/05/13/obamas-100-billion-imf-bailout-scheme/
in addition to the Supplemental.
And THIS is what Obama is doing to American taxpayers:
THE BIGGEST TAX HIKE IN AMERICAN HISTORY:
http://www.atr.org/days-thebr-largest-tax-hikes-history-a5370
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Obama gives your tax dollars to rebuild Muslim mosques around the world
http://canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/26990#
According to the Associated Press, the Obama administration will give away nearly $6 million of American tax dollars to restore 63 historic and cultural sites, including Islamic mosques and minarets, in 55 nations. See the State Department document here.
http://exchanges.state.gov/media/pdfs/office-of-policy-and-evaluations/ambassadors-fund/afcp2010list...
Shades of 1980 again where the “Greatest Generation” was staring at retirment and they did not want the fool libs to screw it up. Now it is the baby boomers facing retirement and they could care less about “Obamanation” and its radical chic mau mau wackiness.
Yes,but nothing anywhere near what they would receive if the money had been invested in their own names and never pilfered by the Federal Government.... people speak of it as entitlements like welfare, it is not welfare, it is our money and the government pilfered it and spent it and now they owe it to us and it’s gone..... stolen.
Excellent post!
Damn straight!
The Federal Government held a gun to my head from my very first job of $5/day making me pay SS and my employer match it with funds that COULD have gone to me and made my life a lot easier as a perpetually starved (food and love) teenager who liked to date and eat.
And the same for every job I've had where the money has been stolen from me before I could even cash my paycheck. Again, the matching funds could have been better utilized by me caring for my family.
And then these "stolen" wages were taxed by Democrats, dumped into the general fund by Democrats, replaced with IOU's in the general fund by Democrats and used as a carrot and stick by Democrats to baffle and BS senile seniors that only Democrats could be trusted to protect it.
The problem is that once you do that, and get rid of all Obama's spending increases, you still have an unfunded liability in Soc Sec/Medicare of well in excess of 90 trillion. Not billion, trillion.
"Cutting other stuff so we don't have to cut Soc Sec/Medicare" = "Sticking the kids and grandkids with the bill", and as someone with grandkids of my own, I don't want to stick it to them.
We can't un-spend what was spent in past decades.
So it's either (1) bump the taxes way way up on those of working age, or (2) admit that the money is gone, and start getting over it.
Which do you prefer??
Who did you vote for Paul?
DEMS WAR ON SENIORS: email it, print the list, hand it out.
USE THE AMMO the enemy gives you! Print the first article out for those seniors that are not online, email the list, print it, hand it out. Tell folks to go read for themselves. I do, then I tell them that my commie rep Steve Cohen gifted them with the $569 Billion tax hike, and the $8.15 Trillion Medicare gut.
How ObamaCare Guts Medicare
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703649004575437311393854940.html?mod=WSJ_Opinion_LEFTTopOpinion
Health law’s heavy impact by Paul Guppy (Taxes)
http://www.spokesman.com/stories/2010/mar/28/health-laws-heavy-impact/
Monthly premiums to rise for 7 of top 10 Medicare prescription plans in 2011
http://www.startribune.com/business/103642009.html?elr=KArks:DCiU1OiP:DiiUiacyKUnciatkEP7DhUr
Social Security: No 2011 increase expected (COLA)
http://money.cnn.com/2010/10/05/news/economy/Social_Security_cost_of_living_adjustment/index.htm
No Social Security COLA Expected For 2011 News Expected To Be Bad For Democrats
http://www.kptv.com/politics/25344443/detail.html
They forgot to add this to the “Rest of the Story”
Shall we wait to see how the media and the establishment Pubbies handle this one?
Harvard Pilgrim cancels Medicare Advantage plan
http://www.boston.com/business/healthcare/articles/2010/09/28/harvard_pilgrim_
Seniors’ coverage options dwindle as Medicare Advantage programs close shop
http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/bus/stories/DN-advantage_22bus.ART.State.Edition1.3c912a9.html
Survey in New England Journal of Medicine 46% of US Doctors Will Quit Obamacare Passes http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/2798380/shocking_survey_in_new_england_journal.html?cat=75
ObamaCare has just made me Sicker!
http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/manhattan/bamcare_has_just_made_me_icker_c1dBRZ6M3yuH27rAVnLsvN
In the notice, EmblemHealth told Gowland, who is healthy, “The proposed rate increase includes two components: a basic increase on your type plan and an increase due to the cost of enhanced benefits required by the new federal Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act.”
Mayo clinic stops taking Medicare patients
http://www.investors.com/NewsAndAnalysis/Article.aspx?id=517004
Principal To Cut Jobs, End Med Insurance Business
http://www.kcci.com/money/25224059/detail.html
Obama: We knew health costs would go up
http://thehill.com/blogs/healthwatch/health-reform-implementation/118079-obama-we-knew-health-costs-would-go-up
President Barack Obama insisted he can overhaul the U.S. healthcare system without raising taxes for anyone but the wealthiest Americans
The New Federal Wedding Tax: How Obamacare Would Dramatically Penalize Marriage
http://www.heritage.org/Research/Reports/2010/01/The-New-Federal-Wedding-Tax-How-Obamacare-Would-Dramatically-Penalize-Marriage
Obama: healthcare won’t hike middle class taxes
http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE58J18320090920
They forgot to add this to the *Rest of the Story* http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2010/jan/22/chain-email/chain-e-mail-says-congress-raised-own-salaries-whi/
How about just cutting off ‘foreign aid’ to our enemies who are using it for jihad?
That Marxist/Muslim POS!
My husband and I paid into Social Security for a total of 60 years. The US Gov. is treating us as if we are taking their money. How dare they treat us as dependents, we were the contributers.
Exactly. I am sick of people referring to SS and Medicare as unfunded liabilities... we funded it — they spent and stole it... now they owe us our money.
Whatever. We can give raises to retirees from government revenues and default sooner, or stop COLAs and default just a little later. Either way, before long, no entitlements will come from government.
“Us older folk have no control over our income the way you do.”
You could get a job. That’s control over your income.
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