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Posted on 05/06/2011 12:16:43 PM PDT by Retired Greyhound

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To: the scotsman

Tell me the number one name for male babies born in your country.


41 posted on 05/07/2011 6:16:39 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: Gaffer

Sorry, mate, but THAT myth has been debunked by myself and every other British Freeper. It has come up in many threads here on FR and myself and others like naturalman1975 or winniesboy have had to state its a myth time and time again, so much so that when it does I can simply cut and paste old posts from previous threads.

Thye most popular boys name in Britain is OLIVER.

Mohammed is NOT the number one name in Britain. It is a myth thats arisen from sites like this and rightwing websites and talk radio in the US.

Mohammed is in fact merely no 16 in Britain (and thats only because most male Muslims are named that in the UK, as the Muslim population of Britain is just 3%, which includes all white and black converts). Its only becomes ‘number 1’ if you decide to include every last variable on the name.

Thats like saying ‘America is Catholic’ because most women are called Mary, because you include variations like Molly, Maureen.....

And if we are being overrun by Muslims, why arent there ANY Muslim female names in the list of the top 50 or even 100 female British names?....curious that, innit?.

http://gulfnews.com/news/world/uk/mohammad-most-popular-boys-name-in-england-1.703110


42 posted on 05/07/2011 12:13:14 PM PDT by the scotsman (I)
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To: the scotsman; Gaffer
Mohammed is in fact merely no 16 in Britain (and thats only because most male Muslims are named that in the UK, as the Muslim population of Britain is just 3%, which includes all white and black converts). Its only becomes ‘number 1’ if you decide to include every last variable on the name.

Are you saying that Mohammed is the most popular name if you include all variant spellings? That sort of defeats your entire point.

As in Mohammed, Mohamed, Muhmad, Moammar, etc. THEN it's number one. It's just not number one if you count each variant spelling as a different name...?

43 posted on 05/07/2011 12:27:09 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: Retired Greyhound

How exactly did the Left accuse Bush of inciting more terrorism by his use of military action?


44 posted on 05/07/2011 12:28:28 PM PDT by Gene Eric (*** Jesus ***)
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To: little jeremiah

You nitpick on spelling even though their parents’ intents were
similar. The fact that there are so many variants could even be seen
as worse, in fact. Britain is taking in and nonassimilating Muslims from
so many countries. Hanging on spelling is ignoring the problem


45 posted on 05/08/2011 2:33:59 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: the scotsman

See post 45. Also I am stunned you don’t know why the female Muslims’
names don’t group like boys.


46 posted on 05/08/2011 2:37:26 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: Gaffer

We agree that Britain has a problem with Islamic extremists, esp amongst the male young in certain (English, not Scots, Welsh or Northern Irish) cities. We agree that we have let in too many.

But Mohammed is NOT the number 1 boys name in Britain. As I have pointed out, its Oliver. And Mohammed is down the list. ‘Mohammed is no 1’ is a myth thats grown up your side of the Atlantic thanks to sites like this and right wing media. And I say AS a British rightwinger.


47 posted on 05/08/2011 5:47:35 AM PDT by the scotsman (I)
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To: Gaffer

I don’t understand; you said Mohammed was not number one in names. Then you said it would be number one in names if one takes all spelling variants into consideration.

I was just trying to get you to clarify what you meant, still isn’t clear.

IMO Britain should kick out every immigrant Muslim tomorrow.

So should the US. Of course that won’t happen. But at least the ones who aren’t citizens, and attend any jihadi mosques or meetings or have jihadi pals, or send money to jihadi organizations, or post jihadi sentiments anywhere. And all mosques should be fitted with minders who speak Arabic and any pro-jihadi ones shut down.


48 posted on 05/08/2011 8:00:14 AM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: little jeremiah
Look at it this way. The idea of Mohammed, however you spell it, is what is being implemented by the naming of these children. Muslims are ALL over the world, and they may implement things slightly differently, but the one connecting thread is this idea of the Prophet. This is what I'm talking about. Others here can quibble about spelling, etc., but the very fact that, including the variations, this name is #1 means there is a very very bad problem in Britain. They can whistle past the graveyard, stick their heads in the sand, but in the end, they aren't reproducing enough to keep their historic demographic makeup competitive - BIG PROBLEM!!!! Finally, just think about Gaddaffy...how many ways do you spell his name? Many huh? Still the same damn guy.
49 posted on 05/08/2011 9:09:58 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: the scotsman
You must be looking at a different source than me. And, not from my side of the Atlantic.

www.dailymail.co.uk/.../Mohammed-popular-baby-boys-ahead-Jack-Harry. html

Mohammed (and its variations) are Number One in 2010.

50 posted on 05/08/2011 9:13:11 AM PDT by Gaffer
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Also, since you didn't mention about the question of why Muslims girls names don't group up like Mohammed, I'll answer it......it's very simple.

Muslims don't consider women as individuals; they consider them chattel, and why would 'chattel' be associated with something reverently religious [their meaning, not mine] as the Prophet's name would be?

51 posted on 05/08/2011 9:17:50 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: Gaffer; the scotsman

We are in complete agreement. It was the scotsman who was quibbling, saying that Mohammed was not number one (but was if one takes into account the variant spellings).


52 posted on 05/08/2011 10:17:57 AM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: Gaffer; the scotsman

Sorry! I mixed you up.


53 posted on 05/08/2011 10:22:26 AM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: Gaffer

No, we DONT have a ‘very very very bad problem’.

Stop believing the hype that we are a dhimmi conquered nation. The Muslim pop. of Britain is 3%. We are not nor are we ever going to be a Muslim nation.

What I find frightening is that Americans seem to now believe any old crap they read or hear about Britain.


54 posted on 05/09/2011 3:46:58 AM PDT by the scotsman (I)
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And?.

All that means is that almost all the newborn males of a tiny minority of British society are called one name (and even then, you have to include every last variation in order to make the ‘argument’).

If every new girl in Britain is to be called Mary, does that mean Britain becomes a Catholic nation as opposed to Protestant?.

This hysteria about names in Limeyland dosent mean that Britain is being conquered by the Mooslims. And frankly its laughable to try and make the argument that it does.

All it means is that a lot of little British-Muslim boys have the same name.


55 posted on 05/09/2011 3:52:33 AM PDT by the scotsman (I)
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No it is not!.

It is no 16. And all that means is that almost all males born to a small minority of Britain have been named Mohammed. So it is 16 only because of mass naming by a small religious group!.

And it is only number one if you tortuously include every last variation. And if you have to do that, then its clearly NOT number one, is it?. In fact, take away the varations and its nowhere near number one!.

The true no 1 name in Britain is Anglo-Saxon or Celtic, as are all the other names.Neither no 16 nor no 1 prove anything about a Muslim conquest of Britain, Limeys are dhimmis, yada yada yada....

All the ridiculous hysteria about this story frankly proves only how stupid, gullable and hysterical some Americans seem to be these days.


56 posted on 05/09/2011 4:00:59 AM PDT by the scotsman (I)
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Thanks for the clarification. Is London really becoming as “islamified” as we’re hearing? If so, is anyone other than the neo-Nazi types pushing back? Just curious.


57 posted on 05/09/2011 7:52:36 AM PDT by opus86
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To an extent. There IS a problem in London and some other British/English cities with young male Islamic extremism, but the hype that has us conquered by Islam is a gross oversimplification.

As for combatting it, there are many moderate Muslim groups, as well as the current govt is trying to combat it at roots level as well as restrict non-EU immigration.


58 posted on 05/09/2011 8:39:36 AM PDT by the scotsman (I)
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Look I realize you're obviously over sensitive about something you don't think is a problem. However, if this were the case on "this side of the Atlantic" I'd be damned concerned, however 'tortuously' varied you consider the variations to be. It still indicates a dire problem. If you're not concerned, it's no skin off my back, you're the one that will be saddled with the problem when you're too old to deal with it.

If you have a problem about the specificity of the facts/reporting take it up with your newpapers, e.g., the Daily Mail UK, not me fella.

59 posted on 05/09/2011 2:59:49 PM PDT by Gaffer
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...The Muslim pop. of Britain is 3%....

And I have read studies where a Muslim immigration level of this magnitude suggests colonization rather than harmless immigration for betterment. You think that Americans becoming concerned about your problems is needless? Okay, fine. I'll stay out of it. You and yours are the ones that better start getting a clue. And, with that - I'll leave your future to you.

60 posted on 05/09/2011 3:03:43 PM PDT by Gaffer
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