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File this under "Holy Crap."
1 posted on 09/19/2012 3:12:41 PM PDT by LS
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Romney doesn’t even need Pennsylvania.....

It’d be great, though. Obviously if PA goes GOP, it will be game over and I won’t even have to stay up till 9 pm.


2 posted on 09/19/2012 3:15:19 PM PDT by ConservativeDude
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If Romney carries PA that would bode very,*very* badly for our Community Organizer In Chief.
3 posted on 09/19/2012 3:16:33 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative (If Obama's Reelected Imagine The Mess He'll Inherit!)
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Internals will be interesting. Hopefully it is not like pews latest bs poll but in reverse. obama voters 37 pct polled, mccain voters 22 pct polled


4 posted on 09/19/2012 3:18:35 PM PDT by italianquaker (The 47 pct need to pay their fair share)
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I wouldn’t put a nickel into PA. Always a tease. The ACORN voters in Pitt and Philly are too tough to overcome.


6 posted on 09/19/2012 3:19:02 PM PDT by nhwingut (Sarah Palin 12... No One Else)
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A couple comments from your source link:

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Ryan on September 19, 2012 at 2:50 pm said:

While I am always skeptical of internal polls, Susquehanna has a good track record. They nailed the 2010 statewide races and also nailed the PA-12 special election in 2010.
emphasis mine)


DRayRaven on September 19, 2012 at 5:13 pm said:

If Romney is the worst presidential candidate in generations, it’s a good thing he’s running against the worst president in US history.

I trust the internal polls, especially since I live in PA and it matches what I see on the ground.

But my, oh, my…the left certainly is desperate to claim this race is over, aren’t they? They’ll be devastated on election night when Obama loses and it’s not even that close.

7 posted on 09/19/2012 3:19:47 PM PDT by tomkat (parliament of whores, mulatto pimp, cabal of commissars . . . what could go wrong ?)
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Oh. My. God.
I love it!!!!!!!!!!!!


8 posted on 09/19/2012 3:20:03 PM PDT by WashingtonSource
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PA is a solid blue state...

It would be great to win it but I’m afraid that is pipe dream


11 posted on 09/19/2012 3:27:51 PM PDT by zwerni (this isn't gonna be good for business)
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Can someone explain why internal polling might be more accurate, and why the “external” polling orgs don’t use those same methodologies (aside from the bias of news organizations)?


12 posted on 09/19/2012 3:28:21 PM PDT by GnL
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For the life of me, I don’t know WHY people were counting out PA for Romney. When I go to realclearpolitics and look at the PA polls, they have Zero up by 4 points and don’t have any link to the poll internals. When there is no link to the internals, you can bet they are over-sampling Dims. Then I thought surely the Romney campaign has their own PROPER internal polls of PA.

This is exactly what I believe is going on. The lame-stream polls showing Zero ahead are over-sampling Dims. I just wish Team Romney would put out more hints about their internal polls.

When I look at Romney and Zero, it is not Romney who looks desperate to me.


13 posted on 09/19/2012 3:31:01 PM PDT by ShovelThemOut
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See? Don’t be so quick to write off Pennsylvania. If we can overcome the Philly vote, we’ve got this. I just hope the momentum is also enough to get Casey out of the Senate as well.


14 posted on 09/19/2012 3:31:01 PM PDT by SueRae (See it? Hell, I can TASTE November from my house!)
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ANY INTERNALS? I would like this to be true....I have said before, and I’ll say again: Obamugabe’s unpopularity is vastly under-reported.


19 posted on 09/19/2012 3:36:16 PM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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I have not heard in 3+ years anyone saying hardly ANYTHING about Obama.
When they do it is almost always not good.
Many times they don’t even say his name but say how things have got much worse.
The noticeable soring cost of food and gas is worrisome for a lot of people in n.pa and I would imagine everywhere.


20 posted on 09/19/2012 3:38:04 PM PDT by Leep (I'm a Chic-Fil-- A-merican)
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PA is definitely in play due to (I believe) a swing in the Southwest coal area, the burbs and voter ID (maybe just enough of a scare).


21 posted on 09/19/2012 3:38:43 PM PDT by Revolutionary ("Praise the Lord and Pass the Ammunition!")
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Oh yeah! If this is correct, Obie is in serious jeopardy.


22 posted on 09/19/2012 3:41:48 PM PDT by Signalman
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This just adds more baggage to the Obama suitcase

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24 posted on 09/19/2012 3:43:18 PM PDT by Despot of the Delta
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Okie dokie.


26 posted on 09/19/2012 3:48:24 PM PDT by 1035rep (Obama: "I killed Bin Laden" ...you didn't do that. Somebody else made that happen.)
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I remember reading an article awhile back about a VERY large number of 'undervotes' in the Democratic primary.

I was able to find the article. http://www.theblogmocracy.com/2012/06/19/undervote-in-pennsylvania-spells-serious-trouble-for-nobama/

This may indicate that Obama may have a BIG problem in PA.

I don't know if many of you have been following TheUlstermanReport's "White House Insider" interviews, but not too long ago, he mentioned an insider poll that was done, and then redone, that showed Romney winning a state that was thought to non-competitive, and ever since then the Insider has been very confident about Romneys chances.

I thought that the state he was talking about was Wisconsin - could it have been PA???
28 posted on 09/19/2012 3:59:43 PM PDT by MMaschin
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President Pinocchio can’t even get above 50% in Oregon and according to Ras is losing NH by 3 points-that was a state he won by 10 in 2008. Would really like to see the internals for this poll.


29 posted on 09/19/2012 4:05:46 PM PDT by NoobRep
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This election is all about turnout. Our Republic is at stake.


32 posted on 09/19/2012 4:10:40 PM PDT by Senator_Blutarski
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PA is really no different than any other state. It all boils down to city, suburban and rural votes. It just happens to be that PA has too many cities and an almost equal population of suburban/rural voters. This is why PA is a disappointment. If we could give Philadelphia to New Jersey or Delaware, PA would be a red state.

The suburbs and rural areas of PA offset city votes, with the exception of Philadelphia. Bucks, Delaware and Montgomery counties surround Philadelphia. In 2008 those counties did not offset Philadelphia. Take any other city in PA; Pittsburgh, Harrisburg, York, Erie, Scranton, Allentown, State College, etc., and the surrounding suburban/rural areas offset the “hood” vote. If Romney camps out in three counties in PA he will have another 18 electoral votes.

I am hopeful that the Rats will stay home on election day and suburban “security moms” stop feeling and vote for their children's future.

33 posted on 09/19/2012 4:10:49 PM PDT by ConservativeInPA (The truth hurts)
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