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Was the attack on Benghazi an "October Surprise" gone bad?
JEFFHEAD.COM ^ | 19 October 2012 | Jeff Head

Posted on 10/19/2012 8:09:15 AM PDT by Jeff Head

Folks, is it possible that the gruesome murder of our Ambassador in Benghazi was acutally the beginnings of an October surprize gone horribly awry?

I believe that somehow, because of all the unanswered questions there...because of the unbelievably chaotic and rushed manner in which the Obama administration tried to cover it up...and continued to cover it up well past all rational thinking would indicate that they were doing ss...and because of just common sense questions, questions like:

  1. Why were new security requests for Benghazi denied after two recent attacks, one by an IED in June that left a 40ft whole in the wall?
  2. Why were the security teams they had in Benghazi removed in August, just a few weeks before the attack?
  3. Why was a U.S. Ambassador who had indicated he feared for his life and was seeking more security, sent to Benghazi, the hotbed for anti-Americanism, on the 11th Anniversyary of 911 (and the 11th anniversary of any event in Islam is considered "Holy") with no US security team?
  4. Why did 12 command centerss watch the attack on Benghazi unfold for SIX HOURS and not mount a relief attempt from Tripoli with helos, or from potential US NAvy vessels in the Med? A helo traveling at 150 MPH can go a good distance in 6 hours, so can an F-18 traveling at Mach 1.
  5. Finally, what was the relationship of Ambassador Stevens to the Gitmo releasess and groups he was heading during the Libyan revolution when Stevens was the US envoy working with these groups? Was Stevens secretly sent there to meet with those groups? Was the whole thing a setup?
Could it be (either through Libyan government sources, or even our own) that the terrorists knew that the security had been taken away in Benghazi? I believe they hoped to kidnap the Ambassador in an easy smash and grab operation against an essentially undefended compound and then try and negotiate a trade; Stevens for the blind shiek.

Tragically, there very well could have been people in our own government who knew about all of this.

Could it be that an "October Surprize" is what was really "supposed" to happen in Benghazi after the kidnapping. We would have seen an outraged Obama, stoked up and rightously indignant over this, on National TV claiming it would not be tolerated and that we would secure the release of Stevens. He would maybe even have "suspended his campaign to deal with it...for all Americans to see.

Then October would have been full of "that" story, and you can bet it would invariably lead to a Stevens release just before the election.

But because a couple of US Navy SEALS happened to be there contracted out on another unrelated State Department matter, and because a couple of other personnel (possibly CIA personnel) put up one hell of a fight against overwhelming odds...holding them off for 6 hours...that the terrorist plan (and potentially the entire "surprize") went bad.

The attackers got mad when many of their own were killed and wounded and they ended up killing Stevens and the SEALS and the other fellow that got seperated from the main group (who escaped...and whom alll should be carefully questioned regarding what they saw and heard) when they caught them.

Thus what was supposed to be a great “moment” for Obama in an arranged “tough” negotiation to “save” Ambassador Stevens (who himself would have had no clue about any of this and would never have gone along with it), turned into a gruesome murder instead.

Precisely because this was so horrible for America. Precisely because these questions remain unanswered. Presicely because 12 operations centers saw this in real time and no help was attempted. Presicely because of the umitigated lies, deceptions, and now cover-up of this administration. This entire affair should actually be absolutely front page news in the whole country until it is resolved, campaigns or not.

We have American blood on the ground and we potentially have those amongst us who at the very least are covering it up for political purposes because it does not fit their narrative...or who, at the worst may have helped to arrange it in an effort to create a new political narrative just before the election.

An American Lament in 2012
http://www.jeffhead.com/lament.htm

Obama’s False Narratives
http://www.jeffhead.com/falsenarrative.htm

The Coming Turnaround in 2012
http://www.jeffhead.com/turnaround2012.htm


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Editorial; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 2012election; alqaeda; alquida; ambassadorstevens; benghazi; benghaziattack; benghazicoverup; benghazigate; blameamerican; blamevideo; bloggersandpersonal; chicagopolitics; coverup; falseflag; fastandfurious; libya; msm; nobama; vanity
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To: onyx
Watched the Britt Baer Special on Bengahzi tonight....very well done.

Learned about the compound...and the attack and more ...

Repeat on Foxnews at 1 AM EST.

He spend some time with Col Wood....and had a timeline for the time line after the event.

81 posted on 10/19/2012 9:23:41 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach ((The Global Warming Hoax was a Criminal Act....where is Al Gore?))
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To: donozark

See my post at 79

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2947212/posts?page=79#79

After the Special by Brett Baier on Fox tonight we know a lot more details about the attack.


82 posted on 10/19/2012 9:24:05 PM PDT by Jeff Head ( Freedom is not free, never has been, never will be (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
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To: Carry_Okie

They may not have thought he was in the building...now that we have a much more detailed account form those who were there. See:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2947212/posts?page=79#79

They then burned the building and that fire and smoke is what killed the Ambassador.


83 posted on 10/19/2012 9:26:04 PM PDT by Jeff Head ( Freedom is not free, never has been, never will be (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
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To: Jeff Head

Thanks for the details, Jeff.


84 posted on 10/19/2012 9:33:45 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Being deceived can be cured.)
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To: IMR 4350; Jeff Head; onyx; Fred Nerks; TigersEye; Marine_Uncle; Lady Heron
Based on what I saw in the Brett Baer special tonight ....I think we can discard "the attempted hostage gone bad"" theory.

The Seals were at the annex...the militants attacked the consultant first and came with diesel fuel and fired everything up without finding Stevens and Smith and an agent in the safe room.

some hours later they attacked the CIA annex and that is where the two Seals were killed.

The Special report is reasonably detailed in the attacks progressing thru the compound.

85 posted on 10/19/2012 9:41:22 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach ((The Global Warming Hoax was a Criminal Act....where is Al Gore?))
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Agreed. See my post 79.


86 posted on 10/19/2012 9:43:52 PM PDT by Jeff Head ( Freedom is not free, never has been, never will be (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
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To: Grampa Dave
Based on the Foxnews special ,....the two Seals were at the CIA Annex....which was attacked some hours after the consultant was lit up and Stevens and Smith died from smoke inhalation in the safe room.

The pictures of Stevens were not shown in the report.

87 posted on 10/19/2012 9:47:23 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach ((The Global Warming Hoax was a Criminal Act....where is Al Gore?))
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Like I said earlier on. Zee plot thickens. For those Freepers that may not be able to watch the Fox News Special Edition, it can be found here.
88 posted on 10/19/2012 9:48:17 PM PDT by Marine_Uncle (Honor must be earned.)
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To: Fred Nerks
Well, if the ambassador died a couple of hours before the vermin realized he was in the safe room, then it is likely what we are seeing in the pictues is rigor mortis. I tend to agree the left arm crooked is an indication of rigor. Of course the autopsy will never be available to anyone outside of foggy bottom, so the insults to his body will not be made public thus protecting the false narrative that most Libyans in Benghazi are peaceful mooselimbs don'tchaknow, not necromancing degenerates.

I feel We The People are going to remove this lying bastard boy playing ay President. What saddens me immensely is that the pubbies lack the patriotism to prosecute many of the criminal enterprise who have been running America into the shitter for four years.

89 posted on 10/19/2012 9:49:31 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Being deceived can be cured.)
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To: Fred Nerks
Well, if the ambassador died a couple of hours before the vermin realized he was in the safe room, then it is likely what we are seeing in the pictures is rigor mortis. I tend to agree the left arm crooked is an indication of rigor. Of course the autopsy will never be available to anyone outside of foggy bottom, so the insults to his body will not be made public thus protecting the false narrative that most Libyans in Benghazi are peaceful mooselimbs don'tchaknow, not necromancing degenerates.

I feel We The People are going to remove this lying bastard boy playing ay President. What saddens me immensely is that the pubbies lack the patriotism to prosecute many of the criminal enterprise who have been running America into the shitter for four years.

90 posted on 10/19/2012 9:49:52 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Being deceived can be cured.)
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To: wrench
"Do not forget, Fast and Furious was an attempt at gun control likely by executive order, and it went horribly wrong."

I was inclined to think it's just too crazy until I thought of F&F..... Still, there needs to be some strong supporting evidence.

91 posted on 10/19/2012 9:55:09 PM PDT by cookcounty ("When I speak, I say what I mean and I mean what I say!" ---Joe Biden, 10/11/2012)
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To: Jeff Head; Marine_Uncle
My comments are based on what I saw from the Foxnews special tonight.

It would be interesting to know what materials and sources they used in putting together the report.

For example the video tape you mention.

Based on what we heard from Col hunt....There are likely multiple copies of the video tapes from the various command centers.

If they are editing a tape and passing it off as unedited....I imagine that will be exposed at some time.

92 posted on 10/19/2012 10:06:04 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach ((The Global Warming Hoax was a Criminal Act....where is Al Gore?))
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To: MHGinTN
...What saddens me immensely is that the pubbies lack the patriotism to prosecute many of the criminal enterprise who have been running America into the shitter for four years.

As an Australian, that's something that really stands out to me and is impossible to understand. From here, it looks like you don't have, maybe never did have, an effective Opposition. Compared to your system, our Prime Minister walks on egg-shells. Every move, every word is open to scrutiny, and misteps are on the Nightly News in an instant. I expect that's a benefit of being a small country.

93 posted on 10/19/2012 10:29:43 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (fair dinkum!)
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To: Fred Nerks

Well, the media was seen by our founders as a fourth branch of the original governing body. In our day, the media would be all over any misstep by a republican president or his administration (witness the Scooter Libby media crucifixion) but these same vermin, no longer a fourth estate have become the fifth column tool of the DNC anti-American agenda. It is why I keep saying guillotines from orbit, it’s the only way to clean up the infestation.


94 posted on 10/19/2012 10:35:19 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Being deceived can be cured.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
RE: "some hours later they attacked the CIA annex and that is where the two Seals were killed."
Assuming the report is accurate in the tracing of the armed vehicle leaving the consulate area and making it's way northwestward to the "Annex".
Just for the record. I traced the route shown in this video and stopped it at the arrival point. The "Annex", that I had brought up with TigerEye yesterday.
Claims continue to be made that the "Annex" was about a mile away.
For the record. As I switch carefully between the Fox Report video stopping the video at various parts along the way performed by the armed vehicle destined for the "Annex", then switching into the google "Live Earth" web site, zeroed in on this area....
The final destination being the "Annex" was found after I did a "crows fly" line path from point x to y as being approx: 0.43 miles.
But to be fair. A bit of a mile over by the roads taken.

A mute point. I have been wondering just where the "Annex" was, and how many security/US (military personnel ?) might have been stationed.
I was dismayed at how few American or say British security and military, other, M6, CIA, where actually left in the land of the leader that loved his little green book.
And we are barely moving into what the whole deal's underlining mission(s) might have been, eg. recovery of the huge numbers of shoulder launched missiles and the now exposed facts coming out that the US team may have been there to expedite those weapons to some of the Syrian goons that are trying to unseat Basher Assad.
I'll leave it go at that. Tis late on the east coast. I really do have to get some sleep.
In leaving. Off course the tens of millions of those on the Federal freebies, and millions of ill informed Democrats in general, will never view and investigate what we do.

Hope and change is their earnest desire. Fools rush in where wise women and men never go.

95 posted on 10/19/2012 11:12:20 PM PDT by Marine_Uncle (Honor must be earned.)
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To: Jeff Head
God grant that we can get to the bottom of this and avenge the deaths and enact justice against all involved, wherever that may lead.

Amen, Jeff...

96 posted on 10/19/2012 11:16:34 PM PDT by nutmeg (I'm with Sarah Palin and Ted Cruz: Romney / Ryan 2012)
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To: Jeff Head

I have very little faith that the parasites currently infesting the White House and Congress will “get to the bottom of this”.


97 posted on 10/19/2012 11:24:35 PM PDT by airborne (MY HEROES DON'T WEAR CAPES. MY HEROES WEAR DOG TAGS ! ! !)
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To: Jeff Head
bump for later

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98 posted on 10/19/2012 11:51:43 PM PDT by Elle Bee
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To: MHGinTN

Whoops! I almost forgot...your media-fifth-column. It’s not in the News if no one reports it, or it spins to the Left. At least we still get both sides of the story...most of the time. The moment the Prime Minister opens her mouth, the Leader of the Opposition gets to say his piece.


99 posted on 10/19/2012 11:57:55 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (fair dinkum!)
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To: Fred Nerks
OK see if this link works, I am not very good at doing this. Sorry.

http://hillbuzz.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/551723_10151063840055954_1056722107_n.jpg?cda6c1

When I saw the picture it was a lot larger. Maybe you can find it elsewhere, it took me a while to find it.

It is not about convincing you. I do not really care, I am just questioning. There has been some talk that he was alive when pulled out from the rumor mill in the Middle East and that day this administration was saying he was pulled out dead.

I just looked at the pictures and saw a few things that I thought indicated he was alive. When the pictures are blown up you can see the muscle well, and no blood in the picture then the one in the hospital with the arm raise there is some blood when that picture is blown up.

I can not tell you one way or the other...those were just my observations, which could be way off in left field.

100 posted on 10/20/2012 1:23:16 AM PDT by Lady Heron
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