Posted on 12/21/2012 5:18:03 AM PST by SeekAndFind
This was an interesting read, but as I went on an on, I started thinking to myself, wait a minute. Boehner is no great calculating strategist. He’s no victim. Please! We’re at this point becuase of his feckless leadership. The National Review has gone around the bend when it comes to real conservatism.
Maybe making bad decisions about committee assignment set the tone of this and future agreements.
When some insight was needed Costas came up with it. Thanks for the posting
The seeds were sown when Boner came up with the Fiscal Cliff deal in the first place.
Sometimes kicking the can down the road puts the kicker in the ditch.
>>>> “They don’t get it.” Another senior member told me that Boehner was always going to struggle with the whip count since most House conservatives have little interest in seeing the speaker strike any kind of deal. “Boehner was trying to play chess and the caucus was playing checkers,” he said, sighing. “Boehner is willing to lose a pawn for a queen. I’m not sure about the rest.” <<<<<
Tell me again, what would Boehner gain?
Boehner’s problem is that he THINKS he’s trading a pawn for a queen. Who esle with a sane mind thinks that?
Boner crippled himself, starting with the purge.
NO
We are this point because of OBAMA
the newly-elected potus has more power than John Boehner and Boehner has no army smart enough to defeat him, even tactically
What we end up with will be because of OBAMA, not Boehner or any other man
I dont believe these gentlemanly dupes of the ol’ boys club ever calculated that a man like OBAMA would be the president of the US
Since the GOP can’t control him it is up to the democrats to man up and become adults- if there are any patriots left
And so grumbles the GOP-E...
And let’s get it through once and for all,
It is not ‘conservatives won’t deal’, it is OBAMA.
BINGO! the whole scenario was set up by Boner, Reid, and McConnell, who were trying to circumvent the TEA Party freshmen in 2011. Boner therefore has been hoisted on his own petard.
The fun part is that Boner and Cantor are going to try to twist arms to pass Obama and Reid’s plan in the House. Any GOP member voting for the Obama-Reid plan is going to PRIMARIED.
So what happens to this part (Sequestration)? Since it was already passed, will it go on or is it dead because it was part of a package?
Exactly right. With no meaningful spending reductions, all the Tax talk, 2%, middle-class crap means nothing. Just a giant smokescreen.
I agree
Barf alert!
What is Bobbie at NR pushing press releases for bonner !
This lobbyist front man held secret meetings , did ruthless purges ,
Worried about the K st pork and shows open hatred of conservatives .
And bonner is a victim !
He is a DC insider stooge who reaped what he sowed !
Boner crippled himself, starting with the purge.
Short and to the point....Perfect
“We are this point because of OBAMA”
Nonsense. Speaker Bohener has continually chosen to “negotiate” a deal, i.e. a piece of legislation with the president. That is not how our government works. The president should not play any part in the crafting of legislation except perhaps making calls to individual members or suggesting amendments.
The House is its own entity. It is not a subset of the presidency. The House as a body does not need to check in with the president to find out what he will sign or what he wants. The president can sign it or not sign it when a final bill gets to him.
What he have been seeing is an intentional undermining of regular legislative order, which preserves liberty. In the debt-ceiling deal, Boehner, Reid and Obama acted like oligarchs. They met together in a room and decided what would happen, then strong-armed it into law, representative government and the people be damned. And Reid is acting as a shield to Obama because he won’t bring any bill the House passes to the floor of the Senate, or he does so it get’s voted down. He won’t allow any bill to be amended.
And Bohener has gone along with this, because he’s too weak to say “The House of Representatives will not deal with the president. We will pass bills under regular order and send them to the Senate. If the Senate chooses not to take them up, or amend them, there is nothing I can do. The House and Senate will never get to confernece to agree and the president will not receive any bill and the government will shut down if necessary.”
Seppuku is the only route left Boner. New blood is needed in the leadership. Leadership with backbone and the willing to tell the Washington elite to Go to Hellllllll.
Boner, and his “leadership” team, were willing to sacrifice “millionaires” on the deal-making alter this go-round, which begs the question—Who would be sacrificed next?
When you screw over a part of your contingent (conservatives) eventually they will screw over you.
Most kids in grade school know that.
Boehner attacked Conservatives and got it stuck up his backside.
Conservative don’t want to give away the store and Boehner appears willing to do it.
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