Posted on 04/16/2014 9:56:23 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
Perhaps this essay will shed some more light on Bundy’s claim: http://freedomoutpost.com/2014/04/bundy-ranch-crisis-causes-us-ask-actually-owns-americas-land/
But this is a republic, dammit — and those who hope to keep it cannot pick and choose the provisions with which they are willing to deign to comply.
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Fugitive Slave Act.
The headline captures my feelings exactly. I understand there is a lot of nuance, along with judicial and historical twists and turns, that bear on this and I’m still open to hearing more. Somewhere along the line, there was a missed opportunity to sort this out, probably about the time Bundy decided to represent himself before the court. Still listening and reading, though...
The property may be taken either for government use or by delegation to third parties who will devote it to public or civic use or, in some cases, economic development. The most common uses of property taken by eminent domain are for government buildings and other facilities, public utilities, highways, and railroads; however, it may also be taken for reasons of public safety, as in the case of Centralia, Pennsylvania. Some jurisdictions require that the condemnor offer to purchase the property before resorting to the use of eminent domain.
Heck, I learned this in the EIGHTH grade.
If Cliven Bundy’s behavior is legitimized by the gravity of his circumstances, how many others may follow suit, singing his name as they go?
Many, many more. We can all hope. The more that stand up to tyranny, the sooner it crawls away.
Hinderaker concedes at the outset that “legally, Bundy doesn’t have a leg to stand on,” that Bundy’s claim that the federal government does not own the land is flagrantly incorrect,
Bundy is correct. The BLM illegally annexed State land. That is the dispute. The first Sagebrush Rebellion proved that the Federal Government cannot steal land that belongs to the States.
Hahaha! Well done. Mike strikes again!
Somebody likes the sound of his typewriter.
RE: The first Sagebrush Rebellion proved that the Federal Government cannot steal land that belongs to the States.
So, why did the state of Nevada allow the Federal government to take over their land in the first place?
The only thing that makes the law worth anything is the faith and loyalty of those that really think it's worth something.
Kind'a like the dollar bill.
The law is a religion practiced by priests (lawyers) and bishops (judges) according to the papacy (SC)
They speak a foreign language (latin ... don't get me started) and if you need to be part of a law experience, you have to hire a foreign speaking national (lawyer speaking latin) so he can translate what they're gonn'a do to you into English ... which would have served just fine ... but the religion must be followed
Zactly. Also, the laws apply to Bundy exactly equally to how they apply to me - or Eric Holder.
Joey Goes to Bunkerville ...a UNREALITY SHOW!
The moment the BLM showed up with its militarized unit and special forces team leader it became an us against them showdown. The government has lost all credibility or claim of moral high-ground. They need to lose.
Nobody likes to see the massive power of a federal agency targeting an individual citizen. But there aren’t any good guys in this, just one who is less bad than the other. Hell yes the government overreacted. But Bundy also broke the law. The courts have ruled against him at every stage. And at the end of the day the government will continue to pursue it and he’s going to lose his land and his business through less visually attention grapping means.
Excellent question. Many State legistlators and Governors believe in the supremacy of the Federal Government and are wont to defy their edicts. Others stand up and say "Hell No!" Depends on how much of the Federal tit they want to suck off of.
Somebody likes the sound of his typewriter.
"As government expands and civil society retreats, bad laws pile atop bad laws, and the cause for dissent is magnified and deepened. Cliven Bundy has been dealt a raw hand by a system that is deaf to his grievances and ham-fisted in its response. But this is a republic, dammit — and those who hope to keep it cannot pick and choose the provisions with which they are willing to deign to comply."
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