Posted on 04/16/2014 9:56:23 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
Glad I’m not the only one whose eyes glazed over at the third paragraph. But I’ve always had trouble with NR’s scribes...
That could very well be due to very few people knowing what those two words even mean, let alone the difference and why Liberty is essential to a society.
You are in Tesac, correct?
Among other things he didn't pay fees to graze his cattle.
Should Christians submit to unjust laws, by tangential logic? How about ex post facto laws, by another tangent?
If you believe a law is unjust then morally you are free to oppose it. But also be prepared to pay the penalty for your stand.
From what I have heard, the first time Bundy was bothered was in 1993. Who became Preezy that year?
An argument can be made that neither Nevada nor the federal government has the authority to void the limitations on what land within a State the federal government is authorized to have per Article 1 Section 8, Paragraph 17 of the US Constitution.
“To exercise exclusive legislation in all cases whatsoever, over such District (not exceeding ten miles square) as may, by cession of particular states, and the acceptance of Congress, become the seat of the government of the United States, and to exercise like authority over all places purchased by the consent of the legislature of the state in which the same shall be, for the erection of forts, magazines, arsenals, dockyards, and other needful buildings”
No, actually the law is on Bundy’s side - meaning the written law. Apparently the legal system is on the fed’s side. But as written, Bundy owns a grazing easement on the land. The BLM can only charge a “management fee”, if they do not manage properly, and he refuses to pay for a job they aren’t doing, it does not give them the right to tamper with his easement.
Bundy needs better lawyers.
“An abusive government which at the end of the day still has the law on its side.”
So did the Soviet Union.
Couldn’t disagree more. His actions were mild compared to what is needed. There is no reason whatever to respect “the law” today as “the law” does not respect we, the people. If it has become open season on any member of government, it is their own fault for their arrogance and anti-American hatred of the citizens.
hmmmm...you could make a similar argument for the second amendment being a 'collective' right and not an individual right pre-Heller and segregation.
Might want to re-think your argument.
Its right here:
Tenth Amendment: "The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people"
Yep. The left never give up in the courts on something they want. They will keep going back until they get it.
Respect for the law has to come from both sides or it no longer works.
RE: The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States
So, owning Federal Land is NOT a power delegated to the United States by the constitution?
I’m an urban old lady who lives in MA.
I know nothing about ranching,cattle,grazing,the BLM,or Nevada———but as long as the government goes after a man like this and ignores the invasion at our southern border I will be against the government.
I am disgusted!
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That is what he has claimed but I don't think the courts have agreed with him.
Bundy needs better lawyers.
Maybe
Bundy was not required to pay fees to graze his cattle. As I understand it, BLM charges for range management, at least in Nevada. 50% of the money received is to go to the state - and Bundy has paid this - and 50% is to go to “range betterment projects”, which Bundy says is not being done and he therefor refuses to pay.
From the Taylor Grazing Act:
Use of District Lands. The Secretary must permit free grazing of domestic livestock within districts. Nothing in the Act is intended to prevent the use of timber, stone, gravel, clay, coal and other deposits by miners, prospectors, settlers and residents. Further, the Act must not restrict: the acquisition, granting or use of permits or rights-of-way within grazing districts under laws existing before the adoption of the Act; ingress or egress over public lands in these districts; prospecting, locating, developing, mining, entering, leasing or patenting mineral resources of grazing districts under applicable law. § 315d and 315e.
Note that the Act must not restrict, among other things, “the use of permits or rights-of-way within grazing districts under laws existing before the adoption of the Act.” Nevada grazing law was in place long before the Taylor Grazing Act, and Bundy’s family had established their grazing easement (right-of-way) well before the Act.
Yeah, when the influence of the radical progressives of the 60’s started taking over the education system, academia, the entertainment industry, the media, the government, etc. some people were doomed to their influences and refuse to see how destructive their statist influences have been on America’s Constitution and our liberties and freedoms.
They can’t even wake up to see how the statist dream has already failed. We’re 17 trillion dollars in the hole and growing trying to keep their statist dreams alive. In 10 years it grows to 27 trillion, they have no clue how it has already failed keeping the big government statist dream alive. At some point, it completely crumbles because there is not enough tax money to keep it going. What’s left is tyranny to try to keep it alive like what we witnessed over the weekend in Nevada. They need to wake up soon or they will continue to be complicit in the destruction of our Constitutionally protected liberties and freedoms or what is left of it.
Much of the answer is the left’s culture of influence, that has been so destructive to America, is to be torn down and rebuilt using our Constitution as the guide.
CGato
I caught part of that hour yesterday and can identify with what Levin was saying. The abuse of power goes more directly to the over-reacting with overwhelming and unnecessary force, IMO. What that force exposed was the outside elements (read a certain US Senator from NV, his family, and their economic self-interest/self-dealing) at work in this matter with the abuse of power in elected office. It’s like the 1770’s all over again with elected officials acting as if they’ve been crowned.
U.S Congress cannot delegate it’s legislative authority.
Cooke is a wuss. Our republic is dead. No one wants to fight off the socialist or seriously stop this massive federal power grab into every aspect of our lives.
What happened to “Standing Athwart History Yelling Stop” National Review? You guys should change it to “Move Along, Nothing To See Here!”
Cowards.
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