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The Problem with Cliven Bundy: His plight is sympathetic; his actions are hard to defend.
National Review ^ | 04/16/2014 | Charles C.W. Cooke

Posted on 04/16/2014 9:56:23 AM PDT by SeekAndFind



Which is to say that the stirring defenses of Bundy to which both Powerline’s John Hinderaker and National Review’s own Kevin D. Williamson have committed this week are all well and good, but that they ultimately conflate two questions that no ordered republic can have conflated for too long. Hinderaker rightly contends that the federal government has “squeezed the ranchers in southern Nevada by limiting the acres on which their cattle can graze” — the effect of which “has been to drive the ranchers out of business”; that, preposterously, “the federal government owns more than 80 percent of the state of Nevada,” a number common in many Western states; and that, ultimately, “Cliven Bundy is just one more victim of progress and changing mores.” These grievances serve as an indictment of the regulatory state, yes. But they do not serve as an executioner for our ailing rule of law. If Cliven Bundy’s behavior is legitimized by the gravity of his circumstances, how many others may follow suit, singing his name as they go?

Hinderaker concedes at the outset that “legally, Bundy doesn’t have a leg to stand on,” that Bundy’s claim that the federal government does not own the land is flagrantly incorrect, and that Bundy has been relegated to defending himself because “no lawyer could make that argument.” (I’d quibble with the last point, but perhaps we know different lawyers.) Then he suggests that Bundy didn’t have a chance in the “age of Obama.” This is a strange claim to make. The rule of law, as my editor Rich Lowry noted yesterday morning, has been extolled by presidents for centuries if not millennia, among them Abraham Lincoln, who hoped that “reverence for the laws” would “become the political religion of the nation” and that “the old and the young, the rich and the poor, the grave and the gay, of all sexes and tongues, and colors and conditions,” would “sacrifice unceasingly upon its altars.” Are we really to believe that the government’s backing up its rules with force is unique to Obama? And why would we imagine that Bundy would have a chance if he doesn’t have a case?

That there is a point beyond which the state may not advance without expecting legitimate pushback is acknowledged by even the most committed of the state’s enablers. Indeed, this principle is baked into America’s instruction manual — albeit with a caveat. “Whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive,” the Declaration reads, “it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government.” But it also chides the hotheaded among us, inviting us to remember that “prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient Causes.” As far as we know, Bundy is not set on starting a revolution. (Although any shots fired would, certainly, have been heard around the world.) But then he isn’t set on civil disobedience as we understand it, either. There is a compact that governs disobedience, and it might be said to follow an old Spanish proverb: “Take what you want but pay for it.” Bundy did not ready himself for prison in order to make a point, but hoped that his obstinacy would lead to a direct change in policy with no consequences to himself. He wished, in other words, to win — nothing more, nothing less. That, in a vacuum, his winning looks good to limited-government types such as myself remains beside the point. If he can opt out, who cannot?

Setting out to make “the case for a little sedition,” my colleague Kevin Williamson ended up making a whole lot more, relying for his rhetorical firepower on wholesale revolutionaries Mohandas Gandhi and George Washington — men, lest you forget, who succeeded in bringing down the existing order in its entirety. “Mr. Bundy’s stand should not be construed as a general template for civic action,” Williamson writes, thereby demonstrating the problem rather neatly: When you change the government, you do not need to worry about setting a precedent; when you merely disobey it, you are setting yourself above a system that remains in force. Respectfully, I would venture that Williamson is here suggesting that he is to be the arbiter of legitimate rebellion — a peculiar position for a libertarian concerned with the integrity of the political process to adopt.

When can one refuse to obey the law without expecting to bring the whole thing down? Certainly such instances exist: I daresay that I would not stand idly by quoting John Adams if a state reintroduced slavery or herded a religious group into ovens or even indulged in wholesale gun confiscation. But Bundy’s case is not remotely approaching these thresholds. Are we to presume that if the government is destroying one’s livelihood or breaking one’s ties with the past, one can revolt? If so, one suspects that half the country would march on Washington, with scimitars drawn, and that West Virginia would invade the Environmental Protection Agency.

Speaking in 1838, Abraham Lincoln argued,

When I so pressingly urge a strict observance of all the laws, let me not be understood as saying there are no bad laws, nor that grievances may not arise, for the redress of which, no legal provisions have been made. — I mean to say no such thing.

Nor I. As government expands and civil society retreats, bad laws pile atop bad laws, and the cause for dissent is magnified and deepened. Cliven Bundy has been dealt a raw hand by a system that is deaf to his grievances and ham-fisted in its response. But this is a republic, dammit — and those who hope to keep it cannot pick and choose the provisions with which they are willing to deign to comply.

— Charles C. W. Cooke is a staff writer at National Review.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; News/Current Events; US: Nevada
KEYWORDS: abuseofpower; blm; bundy; clivenbundy; nevada; sympathetic
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1 posted on 04/16/2014 9:56:23 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

Perhaps this essay will shed some more light on Bundy’s claim: http://freedomoutpost.com/2014/04/bundy-ranch-crisis-causes-us-ask-actually-owns-americas-land/


2 posted on 04/16/2014 10:00:11 AM PDT by Taxman
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To: SeekAndFind

But this is a republic, dammit — and those who hope to keep it cannot pick and choose the provisions with which they are willing to deign to comply.

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Fugitive Slave Act.


3 posted on 04/16/2014 10:00:30 AM PDT by Psalm 144 (FIGHT! FIGHT! SEVERE CONSERVATIVE AND THE WILD RIGHT!)
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To: SeekAndFind
Joey Biden will surely get this all straightened out by weeks end..




4 posted on 04/16/2014 10:02:20 AM PDT by MeshugeMikey ( "Never, never, never give up". Winston Churchill)
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To: SeekAndFind

The headline captures my feelings exactly. I understand there is a lot of nuance, along with judicial and historical twists and turns, that bear on this and I’m still open to hearing more. Somewhere along the line, there was a missed opportunity to sort this out, probably about the time Bundy decided to represent himself before the court. Still listening and reading, though...


5 posted on 04/16/2014 10:03:17 AM PDT by T-Bird45 (It feels like the seventies, and it shouldn't.)
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To: SeekAndFind
Eminent domain.
Eminent domain is the compulsory purchase (United Kingdom, New Zealand, Ireland), resumption (Hong Kong), resumption/compulsory acquisition (Australia), or expropriation (South Africa, Canada) is the power to take private property for public use by a state or national government.
However, it can be legislatively delegated by the state to municipalities, government subdivisions, or even private persons or corporations when they are authorized to exercise functions of public character.

The property may be taken either for government use or by delegation to third parties who will devote it to public or civic use or, in some cases, economic development. The most common uses of property taken by eminent domain are for government buildings and other facilities, public utilities, highways, and railroads; however, it may also be taken for reasons of public safety, as in the case of Centralia, Pennsylvania. Some jurisdictions require that the condemnor offer to purchase the property before resorting to the use of eminent domain.

Heck, I learned this in the EIGHTH grade.

6 posted on 04/16/2014 10:03:27 AM PDT by cloudmountain
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To: SeekAndFind
Mr. Cooke is a buffoon.

If Cliven Bundy’s behavior is legitimized by the gravity of his circumstances, how many others may follow suit, singing his name as they go?

Many, many more. We can all hope. The more that stand up to tyranny, the sooner it crawls away.

Hinderaker concedes at the outset that “legally, Bundy doesn’t have a leg to stand on,” that Bundy’s claim that the federal government does not own the land is flagrantly incorrect,

Bundy is correct. The BLM illegally annexed State land. That is the dispute. The first Sagebrush Rebellion proved that the Federal Government cannot steal land that belongs to the States.

7 posted on 04/16/2014 10:04:19 AM PDT by rjsimmon (The Tree of Liberty Thirsts)
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To: MeshugeMikey

Hahaha! Well done. Mike strikes again!


8 posted on 04/16/2014 10:04:37 AM PDT by Ray76 (Take over the GOP? You still beg! Forget them. Second Party Now.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Somebody likes the sound of his typewriter.


9 posted on 04/16/2014 10:04:42 AM PDT by greatvikingone
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To: rjsimmon

RE: The first Sagebrush Rebellion proved that the Federal Government cannot steal land that belongs to the States.

So, why did the state of Nevada allow the Federal government to take over their land in the first place?


10 posted on 04/16/2014 10:05:25 AM PDT by SeekAndFind (If at first you don't succeed, put it out for beta test.)
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To: SeekAndFind
f*** the law ... it's a piece of paper passed by evil, dead white men intent on destroying God's second attempt at a Garden.

The only thing that makes the law worth anything is the faith and loyalty of those that really think it's worth something.

Kind'a like the dollar bill.

The law is a religion practiced by priests (lawyers) and bishops (judges) according to the papacy (SC)

They speak a foreign language (latin ... don't get me started) and if you need to be part of a law experience, you have to hire a foreign speaking national (lawyer speaking latin) so he can translate what they're gonn'a do to you into English ... which would have served just fine ... but the religion must be followed

11 posted on 04/16/2014 10:05:50 AM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true .. I have no proof .. but they're true.)
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To: Psalm 144

Zactly. Also, the laws apply to Bundy exactly equally to how they apply to me - or Eric Holder.


12 posted on 04/16/2014 10:06:31 AM PDT by cuban leaf
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To: Ray76

Joey Goes to Bunkerville ...a UNREALITY SHOW!


13 posted on 04/16/2014 10:07:00 AM PDT by MeshugeMikey ( "Never, never, never give up". Winston Churchill)
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To: SeekAndFind

The moment the BLM showed up with its militarized unit and special forces team leader it became an us against them showdown. The government has lost all credibility or claim of moral high-ground. They need to lose.


14 posted on 04/16/2014 10:07:01 AM PDT by pallis
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To: SeekAndFind

Nobody likes to see the massive power of a federal agency targeting an individual citizen. But there aren’t any good guys in this, just one who is less bad than the other. Hell yes the government overreacted. But Bundy also broke the law. The courts have ruled against him at every stage. And at the end of the day the government will continue to pursue it and he’s going to lose his land and his business through less visually attention grapping means.


15 posted on 04/16/2014 10:07:14 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: SeekAndFind
So, why did the state of Nevada allow the Federal government to take over their land in the first place?

Excellent question. Many State legistlators and Governors believe in the supremacy of the Federal Government and are wont to defy their edicts. Others stand up and say "Hell No!" Depends on how much of the Federal tit they want to suck off of.

16 posted on 04/16/2014 10:07:24 AM PDT by rjsimmon (The Tree of Liberty Thirsts)
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To: greatvikingone

Somebody likes the sound of his typewriter.


I noticed that. Way to many words to setup and make hs points.


17 posted on 04/16/2014 10:07:44 AM PDT by cuban leaf
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To: SeekAndFind
Good Article.

"As government expands and civil society retreats, bad laws pile atop bad laws, and the cause for dissent is magnified and deepened. Cliven Bundy has been dealt a raw hand by a system that is deaf to his grievances and ham-fisted in its response. But this is a republic, dammit — and those who hope to keep it cannot pick and choose the provisions with which they are willing to deign to comply."

18 posted on 04/16/2014 10:09:23 AM PDT by DannyTN
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To: SeekAndFind

George Soros funds Center for Biological Diversity through funding Earthjustice

http://www.klamathbasincrisis.org/fundingthedemise/Soros/georgesorostoc.htm


19 posted on 04/16/2014 10:09:30 AM PDT by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spiritui Sancto!)
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To: SeekAndFind

Cooke should read this:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3144786/posts


20 posted on 04/16/2014 10:10:09 AM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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