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Impeachment off, GOP fears it will rally Obama Democrats
Washington Examiner ^ | June 6, 2014 | Paul Bedard

Posted on 06/08/2014 11:13:05 AM PDT by EveningStar

Despite anger in many quarters of the nation over the president's prisoner swap, Republicans are backing off impeachment threats because they fear it would rally President Obama's Democratic base and kill the GOP's chances to win the Senate, according to congressional insiders and sources.

“150 days out from a general election is not a realistic time to begin such a solemn and Constitutionally important process,” said one advisor to House GOP leaders.

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtonexaminer.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 113th; 2014issues; 2014midterms; gop; impeachment; impeachobama; obama
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To: CitizenUSA
"The GOP’s position could just as easily be characterized as wise pragmatism..."

Yep. that's a convenient excuse, all right.

It would have been "pragmatic" for General McAuliffe to have surrendered at Bastogne, too.

Scouts Out! Cavalry Ho!

81 posted on 06/08/2014 12:17:15 PM PDT by wku man (Veterans, it's up to us to save the Republic...let's roll.)
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To: CitizenUSA

RINOs blather about “brand” - that was their take away after RINO Romney lost.

A brand must offer a product different than other brands.

RINOs offer up one luke warm RINO after another - THAT is why they lose.

A vote for a RINO is a vote for a Democrat.

Bold colors win. Pastel RINOs lose.


82 posted on 06/08/2014 12:19:28 PM PDT by Ray76 (True change requires true change - A Second Party ...or else it's more of the same...)
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To: wku man

Pragmatic is another word for situational ethics.

Situational ethics and those that advocate them are the opposite of conservative. It cannot be both ways. Can’t haZ a cake and eat it too.


83 posted on 06/08/2014 12:19:28 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart (How's that 'lesser evil' workin' out for ya?)
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To: CitizenUSA
Win elections first.

We can't win elections without at least articulating a common sense, pro liberty message.

The base won't rally. The low information voters won't think that there is something wrong.

The Boehner/McConnell congressional strategy of not saying or doing anything is a failure.

The Romney/McCain strategy for winning presidential elections is a failure.

We can't win elections based on those strategies.

84 posted on 06/08/2014 12:19:41 PM PDT by FreeReign
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To: Tzimisce

Oh goodness gracious me. Any opposition to Obama will paint the nasty old right wingers as uncooperative. I’d be worried that the Republicans might even get labeled as “does not play nicely with others”. They might even be called racist . . . wait that’s already happened.

Shouldn’t we be worried that by fielding opposition (what a nasty word) candidates the voters will label us “difficult”.


85 posted on 06/08/2014 12:19:43 PM PDT by JimSEA
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To: Norm Lenhart
Yup...ultimately, it's our own fault.

Scouts Out! Cavalry Ho!

86 posted on 06/08/2014 12:22:06 PM PDT by wku man (Veterans, it's up to us to save the Republic...let's roll.)
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To: EveningStar
Here's my suggestion for November Billboards.

If you want Obama Impeached, vote against Senate DEMONCRATS

87 posted on 06/08/2014 12:22:18 PM PDT by OldNavyVet (Looking forward to November elections.)
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To: JimSEA; wagglebee; All

Seems some people need a history lesson on this thread. Lets gice them one..

Hat tip to Wagglebee...

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Ronald Reagan: Let Them Go Their Way
The American Conservative Union ^ | March 1, 1975 | Ronald Reagan

Posted on Thursday, November 09, 2006 5:21:01 PM by wagglebee

Since our last meeting we have been through a disastrous election. It is easy for us to be discouraged, as pundits hail that election as a repudiation of our philosophy and even as a mandate of some kind or other. But the significance of the election was not registered by those who voted, but by those who stayed home. If there was anything like a mandate it will be found among almost two-thirds of the citizens who refused to participate.

Bitter as it is to accept the results of the November election, we should have reason for some optimism. For many years now we have preached “the gospel,” in opposition to the philosophy of so-called liberalism which was, in truth, a call to collectivism.

Now, it is possible we have been persuasive to a greater degree than we had ever realized. Few, if any, Democratic party candidates in the last election ran as liberals. Listening to them I had the eerie feeling we were hearing reruns of Goldwater speeches. I even thought I heard a few of my own.

Bureaucracy was assailed and fiscal responsibility hailed. Even George McGovern donned sackcloth and ashes and did penance for the good people of South Dakota.

But let’s not be so naive as to think we are witnessing a mass conversion to the principles of conservatism. Once sworn into office, the victors reverted to type. In their view, apparently, the ends justified the means.

The “Young Turks” had campaigned against “evil politicians.” They turned against committee chairmen of their own party, displaying a taste and talent as cutthroat power politicians quite in contrast to their campaign rhetoric and idealism. Still, we must not forget that they molded their campaigning to fit what even they recognized was the mood of the majority.

And we must see to it that the people are reminded of this as they now pursue their ideological goals—and pursue them they will.

I know you are aware of the national polls which show that a greater (and increasing) number of Americans—Republicans, Democrats and independents—classify themselves as “conservatives” than ever before. And a poll of rank-and-file union members reveals dissatisfaction with the amount of power their own leaders have assumed, and a resentment of their use of that power for partisan politics. Would it shock you to know that in that poll 68 percent of rank-and-file union members of this country came out endorsing right-to-work legislation?

These polls give cause for some optimism, but at the same time reveal a confusion that exists and the need for a continued effort to “spread the word.”

In another recent survey, of 35,000 college and university students polled, three-fourths blame American business and industry for all of our economic and social ills. The same three-fourths think the answer is more (and virtually complete) regimentation and government control of all phases of business—including the imposition of wage and price controls. Yet, 80 percent in the same poll want less government interference in their own lives!

In 1972 the people of this country had a clear-cut choice, based on the issues—to a greater extent than any election in half a century. In overwhelming numbers they ignored party labels, not so much to vote for a man or even a policy as to repudiate a philosophy. In doing so they repudiated that final step into the welfare state—that call for the confiscation and redistribution of their earnings on a scale far greater than what we now have. They repudiated the abandonment of national honor and a weakening of this nation’s ability to protect itself.

A study has been made that is so revealing that I’m not surprised it has been ignored by a certain number of political commentators and columnists. The political science department of Georgetown University researched the mandate of the 1972 election and recently presented its findings at a seminar.

Taking several major issues which, incidentally, are still the issues of the day, they polled rank-and-file members of the Democratic party on their approach to these problems. Then they polled the delegates to the two major national conventions—the leaders of the parties.

They found the delegates to the Republican convention almost identical in their responses to those of the rank-and-file Republicans. Yet, the delegates to the Democratic convention were miles apart from the thinking of their own party members.

The mandate of 1972 still exists. The people of America have been confused and disturbed by events since that election, but they hold an unchanged philosophy.

Our task is to make them see that what we represent is identical to their own hopes and dreams of what America can and should be. If there are questions as to whether the principles of conservatism hold up in practice, we have the answers to them. Where conservative principles have been tried, they have worked. Gov. Meldrim Thomson is making them work in New Hampshire; so is Arch Moore in West Virginia and Mills Godwin in Virginia. Jack Williams made them work in Arizona and I’m sure Jim Edwards will in South Carolina.

If you will permit me, I can recount my own experience in California.

When I went to Sacramento eight years ago, I had the belief that government was no deep, dark mystery, that it could be operated efficiently by using the same common sense practiced in our everyday life, in our homes, in business and private affairs.

The “lab test” of my theory – California—was pretty messed up after eight years of a road show version of the Great Society. Our first and only briefing came from the outgoing director of finance, who said: “We’re spending $1 million more a day than we’re taking in. I have a golf date. Good luck!” That was the most cheerful news we were to hear for quite some time.

California state government was increasing by about 5,000 new employees a year. We were the welfare capital of the world with 16 percent of the nation’s caseload. Soon, California’s caseload was increasing by 40,000 a month.

We turned to the people themselves for help. Two hundred and fifty experts in the various fields volunteered to serve on task forces at no cost to the taxpayers. They went into every department of state government and came back with 1,800 recommendations on how modern business practices could be used to make government more efficient. We adopted 1,600 of them.

We instituted a policy of “cut, squeeze and trim” and froze the hiring of employees as replacements for retiring employees or others leaving state service.

After a few years of struggling with the professional welfarists, we again turned to the people. First, we obtained another task force and, when the legislature refused to help implement its recommendations, we presented the recommendations to the electorate.

It still took some doing. The legislature insisted our reforms would not work; that the needy would starve in the streets; that the workload would be dumped on the counties; that property taxes would go up and that we’d run up a deficit the first year of $750 million.

That was four years ago. Today, the needy have had an average increase of 43 percent in welfare grants in California, but the taxpayers have saved $2 billion by the caseload not increasing that 40,000 a month. Instead, there are some 400,000 fewer on welfare today

than then.

Forty of the state’s 58 counties have reduced property taxes for two years in a row (some for three). That $750-million deficit turned into an $850-million surplus which we returned to the people in a one-time tax rebate. That wasn’t easy. One state senator described that rebate as “an unnecessary expenditure of public funds.”

For more than two decades governments—federal, state, local—have been increasing in size two-and-a-half times faster than the population increase. In the last 10 years they have increased the cost in payroll seven times as fast as the increase in numbers.

We have just turned over to a new administration in Sacramento a government virtually the same size it was eight years ago. With the state’s growth rate, this means that government absorbed a workload increase, in some departments as much as 66 percent.

We also turned over—for the first time in almost a quarter of a century—a balanced budget and a surplus of $500 million. In these eight years just passed, we returned to the people in rebates, tax reductions and bridge toll reductions $5.7 billion. All of this is contrary to the will of those who deplore conservatism and profess to be liberals, yet all of it is pleasing to its citizenry.

Make no mistake, the leadership of the Democratic party is still out of step with the majority of Americans.

Speaker Carl Albert recently was quoted as saying that our problem is “60 percent recession, 30 percent inflation and 10 percent energy.” That makes as much sense as saying two and two make 22.

Without inflation there would be no recession. And unless we curb inflation we can see the end of our society and economic system. The painful fact is we can only halt inflation by undergoing a period of economic dislocation—a recession, if you will.

We can take steps to ease the suffering of some who will be hurt more than others, but if we turn from fighting inflation and adopt a program only to fight recession we are on the road to disaster.

In his first address to Congress, the president asked Congress to join him in an all-out effort to balance the budget. I think all of us wish that he had re-issued that speech instead of this year’s budget message.

What side can be taken in a debate over whether the deficit should be $52 billion or $70 billion or $80 billion preferred by the profligate Congress?

Inflation has one cause and one cause only: government spending more than government takes in. And the cure to inflation is a balanced budget. We know, of course, that after 40 years of social tinkering and Keynesian experimentation that we can’t do this all at once, but it can be achieved. Balancing the budget is like protecting your virtue: you have to learn to say “no.”

This is no time to repeat the shopworn panaceas of the New Deal, the Fair Deal and the Great Society. John Kenneth Galbraith, who, in my opinion, is living proof that economics is an inexact science, has written a new book. It is called “Economics and the Public Purpose.” In it, he asserts that market arrangements in our economy have given us inadequate housing, terrible mass transit, poor health care and a host of other miseries. And then, for the first time to my knowledge, he advances socialism as the answer to our problems.

Shorn of all side issues and extraneous matter, the problem underlying all others is the worldwide contest for the hearts and minds of mankind. Do we find the answers to human misery in freedom as it is known, or do we sink into the deadly dullness of the Socialist ant heap?

Those who suggest that the latter is some kind of solution are, I think, open to challenge. Let’s have no more theorizing when actual comparison is possible. There is in the world a great nation, larger than ours in territory and populated with 250 million capable people. It is rich in resources and has had more than 50 uninterrupted years to practice socialism without opposition.

We could match them, but it would take a little doing on our part. We’d have to cut our paychecks back by 75 percent; move 60 million workers back to the farm; abandon two-thirds of our steel-making capacity; destroy 40 million television sets; tear up 14 of every 15 miles of highway; junk 19 of every 20 automobiles; tear up two-thirds of our railroad track; knock down 70 percent of our houses; and rip out nine out of every 10 telephones. Then, all we have to do is find a capitalist country to sell us wheat on credit to keep us from starving!

Our people are in a time of discontent. Our vital energy supplies are threatened by possibly the most powerful cartel in human history. Our traditional allies in Western Europe are experiencing political and economic instability bordering on chaos.

We seem to be increasingly alone in a world grown more hostile, but we let our defenses shrink to pre-Pearl Harbor levels. And we are conscious that in Moscow the crash build-up of arms continues. The SALT II agreement in Vladivostok, if not re-negotiated, guarantees the Soviets a clear missile superiority sufficient to make a “first strike” possible, with little fear of reprisal. Yet, too many congressmen demand further cuts in our own defenses, including delay if not cancellation of the B-1 bomber.

I realize that millions of Americans are sick of hearing about Indochina, and perhaps it is politically unwise to talk of our obligation to Cambodia and South Vietnam. But we pledged—in an agreement that brought our men home and freed our prisoners—to give our allies arms and ammunition to replace on a one-for-one basis what they expend in resisting the aggression of the Communists who are violating the cease-fire and are fully aided by their Soviet and Red Chinese allies. Congress has already reduced the appropriation to half of what they need and threatens to reduce it even more.

Can we live with ourselves if we, as a nation, betray our friends and ignore our pledged word? And, if we do, who would ever trust us again? To consider committing such an act so contrary to our deepest ideals is symptomatic of the erosion of standards and values. And this adds to our discontent.

We did not seek world leadership; it was thrust upon us. It has been our destiny almost from the first moment this land was settled. If we fail to keep our rendezvous with destiny or, as John Winthrop said in 1630, “Deal falsely with our God,” we shall be made “a story and byword throughout the world.”

Americans are hungry to feel once again a sense of mission and greatness.

I don ‘t know about you, but I am impatient with those Republicans who after the last election rushed into print saying, “We must broaden the base of our party”—when what they meant was to fuzz up and blur even more the differences between ourselves and our opponents.

It was a feeling that there was not a sufficient difference now between the parties that kept a majority of the voters away from the polls. When have we ever advocated a closed-door policy? Who has ever been barred from participating?

Our people look for a cause to believe in. Is it a third party we need, or is it a new and revitalized second party, raising a banner of no pale pastels, but bold colors which make it unmistakably clear where we stand on all of the issues troubling the people?

Let us show that we stand for fiscal integrity and sound money and above all for an end to deficit spending, with ultimate retirement of the national debt.

Let us also include a permanent limit on the percentage of the people’s earnings government can take without their consent.

Let our banner proclaim a genuine tax reform that will begin by simplifying the income tax so that workers can compute their obligation without having to employ legal help.

And let it provide indexing—adjusting the brackets to the cost of living—so that an increase in salary merely to keep pace with inflation does not move the taxpayer into a surtax bracket. Failure to provide this means an increase in government’s share and would make the worker worse off than he was before he got the raise.

Let our banner proclaim our belief in a free market as the greatest provider for the people.

Let us also call for an end to the nit-picking, the harassment and over-regulation of business and industry which restricts expansion and our ability to compete in world markets.

Let us explore ways to ward off socialism, not by increasing government’s coercive power, but by increasing participation by the people in the ownership of our industrial machine.

Our banner must recognize the responsibility of government to protect the law-abiding, holding those who commit misdeeds personally accountable.

And we must make it plain to international adventurers that our love of peace stops short of “peace at any price.”

We will maintain whatever level of strength is necessary to preserve our free way of life.

A political party cannot be all things to all people. It must represent certain fundamental beliefs which must not be compromised to political expediency, or simply to swell its numbers.

I do not believe I have proposed anything that is contrary to what has been considered Republican principle. It is at the same time the very basis of conservatism. It is time to reassert that principle and raise it to full view. And if there are those who cannot subscribe to these principles, then let them go their way.


88 posted on 06/08/2014 12:24:02 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart (How's that 'lesser evil' workin' out for ya?)
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To: FreeReign

Just an idea:

“American jobs”.


89 posted on 06/08/2014 12:24:36 PM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network (http://www.census.gov/foreign-trade/balance/c5700.html#2013)
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To: EveningStar

the house needs to DO ITS JOB and impeach... then let the senate defend his actions going into the election.

of course, NOT impeaching is a signal to the base that the GOP is fine with everything. at which point, the base won’t come out to vote and the dems win

I guess no matter what they do, 0bama wins. might as well stay home. /sarc


90 posted on 06/08/2014 12:26:28 PM PDT by sten (fighting tyranny never goes out of style)
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To: EveningStar

They’re afraid of their own shadows. I give up. I ain’t voting for anyone.


91 posted on 06/08/2014 12:26:53 PM PDT by b4its2late (A Progressive is a person who will give away everything he doesn't own.)
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To: EveningStar

They’re afraid of their own shadows. I give up. I ain’t voting for anyone.


92 posted on 06/08/2014 12:26:54 PM PDT by b4its2late (A Progressive is a person who will give away everything he doesn't own.)
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To: Tzimisce
"The government can’t “bring back jobs”."

Actually, they can bring jobs back with a lower corporate tax. The U.S. rate is 35% now, thanks to the democrats and Obama. The highest, or within a couple percentage points, of the top 3 in the world. The U.K., for example, has a 20% CTR with a 3% annual growth rate. Ours is growth rate is 2%-2.5%. I agree with Larry Kudlow - reduce it to 10% or even better - 0. All that money would come flooding back. Then you'd see 350K - 400K employment rate per month - like in the Reagan years, unlike the anemic 200K under Obama.

93 posted on 06/08/2014 12:26:55 PM PDT by muleskinner
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To: sten

The Republicants can always make up an excuse not to stop enabling the destruction of our We The People Republic.


94 posted on 06/08/2014 12:27:41 PM PDT by MHGinTN
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To: Cringing Negativism Network
Just an idea: “American jobs”.

Never seen you say that.

You should post that more on all threads.

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95 posted on 06/08/2014 12:28:02 PM PDT by FreeReign
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To: al baby

Well played, sir.

Dmitri approves as well ;)


96 posted on 06/08/2014 12:29:42 PM PDT by exit82 ("The Taliban is on the inside of the building" E. Nordstrom 10-10-12)
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To: EveningStar
It is a sad state of affairs when impeachment is rejected as an option to deal with a lawless president. Damn the Dems and the GOP.
97 posted on 06/08/2014 12:30:12 PM PDT by windsorknot
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To: sten

Exactly right.

They need to drive events rather than react to them.


98 posted on 06/08/2014 12:31:41 PM PDT by Ray76 (True change requires true change - A Second Party ...or else it's more of the same...)
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To: freerepublicchat

it seems the ‘public’ is nothing but drooling, stoned out morons that can be trusted to do nothing more crucial then picking their own noses.

if the entire country was the liberal left, then this would be true. fortunately, it’s not.

the House needs to do its job and impeach.

similarly, they need to come clean on the true reasons for bjclinton’s impeachment (which came out in the Cox report).


99 posted on 06/08/2014 12:31:58 PM PDT by sten (fighting tyranny never goes out of style)
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To: EveningStar

Exactly when *IS* a good time to these spineless weasels?

(not in golf season, not in cocktail party season, not in re-election season, not in go along to get along season, not during an important legislative season, not when we are facing a threat from al qaeda, not after...and not before...)

I think I have the solution to most of our problems:

It is time the citizens of the USA elected representatives, and not career politicians.

Let’s send as many career politicians packing as possible.


100 posted on 06/08/2014 12:34:42 PM PDT by Triple (Socialism denies people the right to the fruits of their labor, and is as abhorrent as slavery)
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