Posted on 07/06/2014 12:11:42 PM PDT by EveningStar
W was better than Gore or Kerry would have been, and light years better than Obama, but that doesn’t make him anything special.
His, and his family’s, obsession with Hispanics and his two attempts in 2006 and 2007 to force amnesty on Republican voters who did not want it did more to weaken the party and usher in Obama than anything else.
GHWB trashed much of what Reagan accomplished and W did the same with much of what Gingrich and many Republicans in the ‘90s accomplished in Congress. The Bushes are wastrels who come along and use and misuse the acheivements of their predecessors without ever being honest about their intentions.
The only time we’ve heard from W since his leaving office was a few occasions he chose to insult and hector all the ‘nativists’ and ‘isolationists’ who oppose amnesty for illegal aliens. Not a word from him as Obama squandered all that was accomplished in Iraq, Obama failures that will probably make all the sacrifice of lives and treasure in vain. Not a word from W who set it all in motion and sent hundreds of thousands to Iraq and Afghanistan.
“What ever your views, what you wrote is leftist propaganda.”
Sure; you can’t refute any of it.
.Iraqis still pay every day....And your problem is? The Iraquis should have taken care of it decades ago, as the Mexicans, guatemalans and WE should. Dems argued for it while Clinton was in and knew he would do nothing, the French, Germans and Isreali’s all were convinced he was developing a nuke (but helped him right along). No, you’ll never convince me that Bush woke up one day and said” Let’s go kick Saddam’s ass. It’s all for oil.” How much oil did we we steal, anyway? Never saw a statistic, anywhere. My answer to myself “None.”
I was going to suggest ‘unfriending’ them, but you should put the onus on them. Send a note that they have the option of unfriending you, if they don’t want to see what you post.
Your arguments are plainly untrue.
The US had DOZENS of allies in Iraq.
Several of those allies put troops on the ground and died beside us: Britain, Poland, and Australia are three good examples.
Weapons of mass destruction were found:
http://www.americanthinker.com/2005/03/no_wmds_really.html
The Duelfer report said that from the beginning. Bush had the intellectual honesty to say we did not find “large” stockpiles. Dissidents exaggerated the threat posed from the limited weapons he self evidently had when we invaded in 2003.
It irritates me greatly that “faux conservatives” brandish their authentic conservatism by bashing Bush as fake.
The real problem with American war fighting is that so many of these authentic conservatives are willing to play along with American media distortions like “Bush lied on WMD” and thereby undermining both the success and meaning of our success in war.
America has “lost” all wars since Vietnam because Americans refuse to stand up to the media bullies who say war is always wrong no matter who the enemy is.
I can guarantee you that Saddam Hussein will never threaten the world ever again. It was not a fake war and it is disrespectful to our heroes that fought and died there.
The new Iraqi caliphate Bagdadi told his American captors as he walked out of jail in 2009 that he would see them in New York. The cavalier terror ambition is the direct result of people selling out a great leader: George W. Bush.
Obama is the anti-thesis of Bush. Pretending to hate Bush and Obama is ridiculous. Hatred of Bush is part and parcel of supporting Obama. Too few Bush critics are willing to be specific. Instead, we are treated to grand hyperbole about what a complete loser and liar Bush is.
That is the problem— not President Bush.
George W. Bush could tear of the head of a rooster on stage, drink its blood, and pronounce a voodoo curse on Barack Obama and it wouldn’t make any difference. Some people need to look forward, and not backward.
Both Bushes were moderates even RINOs at times but they were decent men. At least they were decent men. One cannot say that about Al Gore, John Kerry or Barack Hussein Obama.
I know; I was just funning with you.
I never said it was for oil.
The ONLY allies we had were those who put troops on the ground (and they were token forces). Many more countries were willing to put troops into Afghanistan.
“Bush had the intellectual honesty to say we did not find “large” stockpiles.”
What did he find, the remnants of the chemical weapons we sent in the 1980s to deal with Iran?
“The real problem with American war fighting is that so many of these authentic conservatives are willing to play along with American media distortions like “Bush lied on WMD” and thereby undermining both the success and meaning of our success in war.”
There was nothing “conservative” about that staged war; do you think George Washington would have initiated it? The real problem with American war fighting is that the next regime might just about it (regardless of the reasons it was launched).
“I can guarantee you that Saddam Hussein will never threaten the world ever again. It was not a fake war and it is disrespectful to our heroes that fought and died there.”
What has replaced Saddam is a horror visited on Iraqi civilians daily. The midnight retreat was disresepctful to those who fought & died there.
“The new Iraqi caliphate Bagdadi told his American captors as he walked out of jail in 2009 that he would see them in New York. The cavalier terror ambition is the direct result of people selling out a great leader: George W. Bush.”
Odd, considering it was 15 Saudis (our “allies”) that took part in 9/11 - and not a single Iraqi.
Duh!
Me too, alot........first class family all the way!
TARP, The Auto Bailouts, keeping leftists in his administration, not draining Bill Clinton’s D.C. Swamp, Harriet Meyers, John Roberts, the list goes on..
GW gave us Barack Obama indirectly by NOT governing as a Conservative. So I say poo on him!
Tell it to Dick Cheney. Do you object to his and his daughter's recent remarks concerning Obama's failures?
Obama has just facilitated, through his incompetence in the handling of Iraq, he's facilitated the birth of probably the most dangerous terrorist state yet seen. And just who, if anyone, is going to put enough military power into the field to destroy that new terrorist state?
Some people need to look backward and then at the present. Most don't need to look at the future because they know what it will be if this new Islamic State takes root and grows.
W and Cheney and others form the past should be discussing those dangers.
Nothing false about it, the intel was what it was.........
Three years of non-stop investigations into who in the Bush administration "outed" Valerie Plame as being an alleged "covert" CIA agent started the media witchhunt with the second link I posted proving Jack Wilson was an out and out liar.........
Syria's Chemical Weapons Came From Saddam's Iraq
Pentagon announces 500 tons of Uranium shipped from Iraq to Canada
He actually does remind me of a lot of the guys I was in the fraternity with - that’s a good thing....
Refute? It’s a lie.
There were no false pretenses, as you claim.
If you are arguing that you are a leftist or a fool.
The United States NEVER sent chemical weapons to Iraq. That is a hard LEFTIST propaganda point with less than zero evidence behind it.
These are weapons that were not destroyed after the first war with Iraq.
How many Iraqis participated in the first bombing of the World Trade Center in 1993?
The absurd premise that the world is neatly divided into anti-American enclaves that have no connected interaction is ridiculous and the foundational premise of our current dangers. Iraq did attack US jets constantly after the first war with Iraq. Saddam celebrated the attacks on 911 and his agents did help with the first WTC bombing.
I actually don’t think George Washington would have waged the war— and such a question exposes the dangerous ignorance of the Rand Paulians that want to enter a world of denial and false pretense.
I do think that Thomas Jefferson after exasperating every foolish isolationist premise of diplomacy constituted the US Marines to end the Islamic Barbary pirates from attacking US merchant vessels in the Mediterranean. What the US military accomplished then on the “shores of Tripoli” was Regime Change plain and simple. So yes, even colonialists could recognize the foolishness of your premised foreign policy.
They will not leave us alone.
It is dangerous denial to pretend that they will. What the nation needs is not more isolation but a public more willing to support their warriors who do the job their public cannot fathom.
We ought to be grateful that GWB was a courageous enough leader to understand this necessity and not cut and run as the great Reagan did after more than 200 marines were bombed by Islamic terrorists in Lebanon. This nation has no choice but to engage those who every day brag that they will destroy this nation. No amount of denial will ever change that fact.
I agree - the Bush Presidents were and are decent men. Did they make mistakes while in office? Yes. Were they hell bent on destroying American like the POS now in the WH? NO! They both loved this country and our military, but yes, both were lax on border control. However, neither of them initiated such tactics as what zero is doing with the illegal aliens - nor did either of them sic the IRS on the conservatives in America. I liked GWB more than I liked his dad - and shudder to think what this country would have been like under an Al Gore or John Kerry presidency. I didn’t have to hold my nose when I voted for GW either - like I did with McCain and Romney. So, with that I’ll just say - Happy Birthday Mr. President - the last of our real presidents, in fact.
Why the heck did they pick John Kerry? I am pretty sure even at the time, Lieberman would have proven a better competitor against Bush, easily.
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