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A word about posting satire
September 29, 2014 | Jim Robinson

Posted on 09/29/2014 3:38:42 PM PDT by Jim Robinson

No, FR is not trying to quash satire. However, it should be clearly labeled as such in the title. Some people seem to think it's great trickling our readers into falling for satire. It's not. A lot of people come to FR and scan the headlines clicking on articles of interest. If they're not familiar with the author or source, they may be misled and may even pass it on to others. No thanks.

If you post satire, please label it as "satire' in the title.

Thanks


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KEYWORDS: adminlectureseries; faq; freerepublic; frsatire; johnsemmens; johnsemmons; rules; satire
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To: trisham

Bad choice of words... lol

Or was it.. SATire????


121 posted on 09/29/2014 4:36:11 PM PDT by freedumb2003 (Zimmerman, Brown, Fast & Furious, IRS harassment, Philly ignorance: holdering in 1st degree)
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To: humblegunner

122 posted on 09/29/2014 4:38:06 PM PDT by Brother Cracker (You are more likely to find krugerrands in a Cracker Jack box than 22 ammo at Wal-Mart)
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To: humblegunner
Had he the power, I should expect an audit.

Well, hg, I find this ironic because, of the two of you, you're the one who appears to want power -- the power to tell everybody what/who is good, bad, readable, etc.

If Jim wants John Semmens gone - after all these years - that's his call. It is not, nor should be, yours, just because you don't care for him or appreciate his writing.

123 posted on 09/29/2014 4:38:53 PM PDT by workerbee (The President of the United States is PUBLIC ENEMY #1)
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To: be-baw
I totally disagree. I’m not a fan of satire or any other mode of communication that is not straightforward and possibly misleading.<\i>

Signed, Brigadier N.F. Marwood-Git (Ret.)

124 posted on 09/29/2014 4:40:10 PM PDT by Oratam
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To: freedumb2003

Gee, I don’t know.


125 posted on 09/29/2014 4:40:12 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: Jim Robinson

Thank you.

This is the problem-when browsing through the “latest posts” list, the identity of the original poster is not present, only the title.

Every post on FR is instantly picked up by Google.

Everyone here should try this educational experiment-at random pick a fairly unique phrase from somewhere on FR and enter that phrase into the Google search engine.

It will appear as a search result, with the thread title, the website name (Free Republic), a post time, the URL, and an excerpt that includes the search phrase (highlighted).

The chance that a satirical piece will be misinterpreted by someone out there in Internet Land is multiplied greatly by this exposure, adding to the belief in some circles that FR is a kook site, or is involved in spreading lies.

You will not see the word “satire” unless you click on the link and scroll up to the top of the thread.

The simple expedient of adding the word “satire” to the thread title avoids all of this.


126 posted on 09/29/2014 4:40:44 PM PDT by Fresh Wind (The last remnants of the Old Republic have been swept away.)
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To: Jim Robinson; John Semmens
One problem is every title here gets indexed by google (title and blurb only show up on google searches). Half our new readers come in from google. If they’re fooled right off the bat, chances are we’ve lost them.

While that is an understandable explanation, I do think Mr. Semmens' contributions of late could have been handled differently. His satire has been a part of FR for years.

127 posted on 09/29/2014 4:41:20 PM PDT by Gabz (Democrats for Voldemort.)
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To: workerbee; John Semmens
Someone (not nec. hg) with a particular dislike to either his writing or to him, personally, is not reason to start having his stuff pulled.

I never asked for nor do I want his stuff "pulled".

I may object to his vanity posts (for that is what they are)
but I've almost never made comments to that effect. Why?

Because he generally isn't directing traffic off-site.

Do I think he's a self-important "look at ME!" wanker?

Oh HELL yes. It's obvious.

But at least he posts the whole mess HERE.

128 posted on 09/29/2014 4:42:24 PM PDT by humblegunner
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To: workerbee

Amen!


129 posted on 09/29/2014 4:43:53 PM PDT by fatnotlazy
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To: freedumb2003

Was it?


130 posted on 09/29/2014 4:44:17 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: Louis Foxwell; Jim Robinson; DoughtyOne; All
To be effective satire should never be obvious. Labeling it as such caters to the superficial, uninformed reader.

By the same token, it should be presented with the understanding that it IS satire. For example, people watch Saturday Night Live or MAD TV for the satire. They watch the nightly news for the lack of it. To slip satire into a format like FRs, where headlines summarize the content in a news format, is a little annoying.

I'm in the habit of looking at the source. If it's an intriguing headline but from Satire News (or whatever that is), WND, etc., I move on where if it had come from a local newspaper or such source, I'd have clicked on it.

131 posted on 09/29/2014 4:44:30 PM PDT by Finny (Thy word is a lamp unto my feet, and a light unto my path. -- Psalm 119:105)
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To: DJlaysitup

That’s funny. So they suck him in huh? LOL, we’ll I’ve been taken in a few times too.

You would think he would back off a little to prevent embarrassment.


132 posted on 09/29/2014 4:46:16 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Obama and the Left are maggots feeding off the flesh of the United States.)
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To: humblegunner
Do I think he's a self-important "look at ME!" wanker? Oh HELL yes. It's obvious.

Some might think this very same thing about someone who is always the 1st or 2nd reply with a snarky scolding to any "suspect" thread, year after year after year....

133 posted on 09/29/2014 4:46:45 PM PDT by workerbee (The President of the United States is PUBLIC ENEMY #1)
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To: humblegunner
Do I think he's a self-important "look at ME!" wanker? Oh HELL yes. It's obvious.

In the meantime, HG kills time:


134 posted on 09/29/2014 4:47:11 PM PDT by freedumb2003 (Zimmerman, Brown, Fast & Furious, IRS harassment, Philly ignorance: holdering in 1st degree)
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To: Gabz

We are handling it differently. Labeling satire in the title is now policy. Thanks


135 posted on 09/29/2014 4:47:16 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!!)
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To: workerbee

Oh, for Pete’s sake. This is all very simple, really. Semmens simply has to indicate in the title of his threads that they are satire. That’s it.


136 posted on 09/29/2014 4:48:40 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: Finny

You make good points.

I don’t always check the source, to my detriment. It has cost me at times.

What I detest more than anything else, is the headline that is so misleading that the body of the story causes the headline to be seen as a complete and total lie, just to get people to read on.


137 posted on 09/29/2014 4:48:42 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Obama and the Left are maggots feeding off the flesh of the United States.)
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To: humblegunner
It's all "look at me!" however you wrap it.

Big or small.

Photo caption jokes or satire threads.

Vanities or in-thread comments.

First to post breaking news.

Witty comments.

Attacking bloggers for sport.

You do it. I do it. We all do it.

You can knock people here for lots of things, but accusing them of "look at me" is over the top. That's what it's all about for all of us.

Enjoy your pudding.

-PJ

138 posted on 09/29/2014 4:49:10 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too (If you are the Posterity of We the People, then you are a Natural Born Citizen.)
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To: trisham

It was just clumsy and quick posting on my part.

I am not good at satire.

Snark, yes, satire, nah.


139 posted on 09/29/2014 4:49:12 PM PDT by freedumb2003 (Zimmerman, Brown, Fast & Furious, IRS harassment, Philly ignorance: holdering in 1st degree)
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To: Drawsing; Louis Foxwell; DoughtyOne; Jim Robinson
....there are a lot of people whose brains are just more analytical/logical/left brain…call it what you like... and find it difficult to process absurdity and see the humor at the same time. Instead of laughing at it, it just makes them angry.

Perhaps. Or perhaps it's because they accepted on good faith and got a joke pulled on them instead. Sometimes funny, sometimes just annoying.

So… this is not a slam on those people. It is just a way we can celebrate our diversity! (That last sentence was satire.)

Satire ... or sarcasm? Though satire is surely sarcasm full-throttle! {^)

140 posted on 09/29/2014 4:50:49 PM PDT by Finny (Thy word is a lamp unto my feet, and a light unto my path. -- Psalm 119:105)
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