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The coming breakup of the United States.
Thomas W. Chittum ^ | Paperback – January, 1997 | Thomas W. Chittum

Posted on 06/28/2015 8:06:37 AM PDT by Desron13

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Scary huh?
1 posted on 06/28/2015 8:06:37 AM PDT by Desron13
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To: Desron13

We’re at a point where the breakup of the US and the breakup of the EU would not be an end of civilization. It would give pockets of civilization that still exist the ability to save themselves.


2 posted on 06/28/2015 8:09:43 AM PDT by grania
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native born white Americans and their militias

Oops....


3 posted on 06/28/2015 8:12:07 AM PDT by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either satire or opinion. Or both.)
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To: Desron13

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4 posted on 06/28/2015 8:16:09 AM PDT by BeadCounter
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To: Desron13

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5 posted on 06/28/2015 8:29:51 AM PDT by jimjohn (You don't get the kind of government you want, or the kind you need. You get the kind you deserve.)
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To: grania

The MSM is extremely squeemish when it comes to casualties. They will scream bloody murder if more than 1000 US soldiers are killed in a conflict.

If another civil war happened, the potential casualties would be horrific—especially given modern weapons. However, if a state or region tried to secede from the US, my $$ says they would be mum about the resulting casualties.

It would be an open question to see how many bodies would pile up before public opinion said “let them go”. Likely, the Federal Government would try a blockade or crippling sanctions to minimize the casualties. Plus, cut off all benefits to people in those areas.


6 posted on 06/28/2015 8:33:26 AM PDT by rbg81
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I just don’t think casualties on the order of what happened in the Civil War would be tolerable in this day & age.


7 posted on 06/28/2015 8:34:26 AM PDT by rbg81
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We now have a clear pathway for retaking the country in only three years. It will not be easy, but frankly it is the last chance that I see in my lifetime.

First, in 2016 we MUST elect a CONSERVATIVE President such as Cruz or maybe Walker (I am keeping an open mind) AND the Republicans MUST hold onto the Senate.

As much as I would like to replace some RINOs in the Senate next year, because of the disproportionate number of Republicans up for election, it will be an uphill battle just to retain control. To retain control, we have to have as good of a year as we did 2010, when all those Senators that will be up for re-election were first elected.

President Cruz or President Walker simply cannot accomplish any of the things that must be done if Chuck Schumer is in control of the Senate. A Conservative President and a Democrat controlled Senate gets us nowhere.

This is my personal litmus test on whether or not keeping a RINO Senator in 2016 is better than replacing him with a Democrat. In the next few weeks or months, at least one and probably more of the following 80 year old Supreme Court Justices will announce their retirement so that Obama can fill their seat: Ginsburg, Breyer and/or Kennedy. Obama will fill their seats with young far left-wing liberals who will be legislating from the bench for the next 30 years.

The Senate MUST Bork ANYONE that Obama picks to fill any of these seats. Do NOT argue that the nominees lacks experience or try to find some hidden defect buried deep in their backgrounds. Simply state (loudly and without hesitation) that the Supreme Court has shifted so far to the far left-wing that it has become a liberal oligarchy that is way outside the mainstream of America and that is disregarding the Constitution and democratic rights of the citizens. No more Obama appointments can be permitted.

The lamestream media and the Democrats will scream bloody murder. Who cares? Make it a campaign issue. Do you want Hillary to appoint far left wing judges who will disregard the will of the American people and write whatever laws that they want or do you want judges who will apply the Constitution and laws that are written? The media keeps telling us that Americans just love same sex marriage, but every single time a referendum has been held, a clear majority has voted against same sex marriage and every one of those votes has now been thrown out by a cable of five unelected dictators.

IMHO, any Republican Senators who join in filibustering Obama’s nominees should be permitted to keep their jobs for another term. Any Republican Senators who vote against a filibuster and in favor of Obama’s nominees are no better than Democrats and should be replaced.

If we can elect a CONSERVATIVE President and retain Republican control of the Senate in 2016, then the next step will be for the Senate to invoke the Reid Rule and abolish the filibuster entirely - for all appointments and legislation. Again, the lamestream media and the Democrats will scream bloody murder, but if we make it this far then they will be entirely irrelevant.

That will give the President and Congress one year to repeal every Obama executive order, every regulation adopted by every agency under Obama, and every law (including Obamacare) that was passed by the Democrats since 2006. They must work fast, so that the economy will have time to rebound before the 2018 elections.

In 2018, it will be the year for consolidating control of state governments and throwing out every RINO we can from Congress.

If we can accomplish these steps, then America will be saved. If not, then our Republic is over.


8 posted on 06/28/2015 8:34:43 AM PDT by Bubba_Leroy (The Obamanation Continues)
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To: Desron13

I wouldn’t say it’s “scary”. Some of the info has merit and war is sometimes necessary. Other parts of his argument are propaganda. Either way, when a race is hopelessly outnumbered and made the fall guy, what you end up with is South Africa.

Not a pleasant picture either way but the ends do justify the means. Our nation and world are no longer what they once were. Understand. Adapt. And be vigilant. The Good Lord will provide. The righteous will prevail if we are prepared to die for that truth. That is where those who lie, steal, and leech will fall. They are devoid of honor and their hearts, albeit blackened, will be their demise.

Chin up. Stay alert. Be prepared.


9 posted on 06/28/2015 8:36:52 AM PDT by Up Yours Marxists
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To: rbg81

Sure, that scale of casualties would be acceptable, as long as they happened on the Free States side. The left is currently just engaged in “cultural cleansing,” but the left always gets to the killing part, in the end. And the media will justify and celebrate it.


10 posted on 06/28/2015 8:38:42 AM PDT by Cincinnatus.45-70 (What do DemocRats enjoy more than a truckload of dead babies? Unloading them with a pitchfork!)
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I just don’t think casualties on the order of what happened in the Civil War would be tolerable in this day & age.

What, precisely, do you consider the death of 50 million babies?

11 posted on 06/28/2015 8:41:52 AM PDT by Louis Foxwell (This is a wake up call. Join the Sultan Knish ping list.)
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To: Bubba_Leroy

Via three decisions last week, Scotus repealed free government.

Future elections can only serve to condone tyranny.


12 posted on 06/28/2015 8:44:51 AM PDT by Jacquerie (Article V. If not now, when?)
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To: BenLurkin

States rights are dead.

The same faggot judge that said marriage was a State issue when striking down DOMA just said marriage is NOT a State issue.

At this point just pray that D.C. is nuked and soon.

Pray hard.


13 posted on 06/28/2015 8:46:43 AM PDT by Rome2000 (SMASH THE CPUSA)
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The thing is, cutting off all benefits would not be the end of the world for an entity with a hard-working population and enough resources to be self-sufficient. They'd also have to have enough of a state identity to work hard toward a common goal. I'd think cutting off Social Security and pensions from other states and entities wouldn't be possible, since those are paid where ever in the world one lives. They aren't an entitlement. Three states that might be able to do it, I'd think, would be Texas, Hawaii and Vermont.

I look at a place such as OH and say "no way". This entity does not function as one state, and I suspect most of the state wouldn't want to fund Cleveland.

I don't know if it would be in my lifetime. But at some point the whole thing has to come tumbling down. I just hope it doesn't bring all of civilization with it. Could happen; look at ISIS. The globalists are still playing that situation for advantage, instead of having disintegrated them last year when it was possible. They're pure evil, and just the kinda' guys that could usher in another dark ages.

I ramble. My point? As horrific as it might be in the process, to save civilization and Christian values, it's going to take some real pain. With that over-view the breakup of the US might be the best of a lot of bad choices.

14 posted on 06/28/2015 8:46:52 AM PDT by grania
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15 posted on 06/28/2015 8:47:34 AM PDT by BlueLancer (Once is happenstance. Twice is coincidence. Three times is enemy action.)
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Ping in case you’re not already on the thread.


16 posted on 06/28/2015 8:53:25 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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Any amount of casualties would be tolerable these days as long as they were the “right people”.


17 posted on 06/28/2015 8:54:25 AM PDT by Clump (Bestowing dignity on sodomy is like bestowing fragrance on a turd.)
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To: Louis Foxwell

What, precisely, do you consider the death of 50 million babies?


I don’t support abortion, but you’re comparing apples and oranges. The women aborting these babies for the most part, don’t want them—or think they don’t at the time. Even if they come to regret the abortion, they will never get to know the person the fetus could have been. On the other hand, no one wants to lose a grown child who they choose to have.

From the parent’s emotion standpoint, there really is no comparison.


18 posted on 06/28/2015 8:55:01 AM PDT by rbg81
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To: grania

Methinks the current plan to head this off is to change the makeup & character of any state that MIGHT consider breaking away. One way to do that is through demographics. Ironically, because of this, I think there is a fair chance that the Southwest might want day try to rejoin Mexico or become Independent.


19 posted on 06/28/2015 8:58:02 AM PDT by rbg81
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20 posted on 06/28/2015 9:01:47 AM PDT by ponygirl (Put. A. Bird. On. It.)
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