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The voter rebellion is on! Who should lead: Cruz or Trump? Both?
February 3, 2016 | Jim Robinson

Posted on 02/03/2016 1:57:45 PM PST by Jim Robinson

Q: Why are the voters rebelling?

A: The leftist progressives have been treading on our constitution and our liberty for at least the last 100 years and consequently we've suffered a long train of abuses and usurpations: The income tax (16th amendment), ending state sovereignty/concentrating power at the federal level (the 17th amendment), the Fed, heavy-handed/unconstitutional regulations, socialized retirement, socialized health care, restrictions on religious liberty, legalized abortion, federal mandated homosexual marriage with the heavy hand of the federal government enforcing it over the objections of the states and small business operators, the illegal alien invasion, the subversive Muslim invasion, the last 8 years of lawlessness under a Marxist/Islamofascist usurper, and a totally ineffective Republican opposition party that caves in or actually goes along with much of the above.

The tea party rebellion rose up several years ago to try to fight off the most recent Marxist assaults on our liberty and was quite effective at electing Republican majorities in the House and the Senate and in the majority of the states, but all to no avail.

The professional political elites entrenched within the Republican establishment co-opted our newly elected tea party representatives and or otherwise blunted their efforts and continued allowing the Marxist democrats to have their way over us. Even a rebellion against the Speaker of the House did no good. The new Speaker is as weak as the old Speaker.

And so the situation is ripe for rebellion. And we had a great Christian constitutional conservative tea party leader poised to lead it, Ted Cruz. And we were happy to jump on this young lion's bandwagon and push him through to triumph over the Marxist Democrats.

But the entrenched GOP establishment would have none of it and they (the GOPe and related Super PACS and their allies at FOX News and the cheap labor/open borders lobby) lined up behind the malleable open-borders Jeb Bush whom they could control and amassed a vast 100 million dollar plus warchest with promises of millions more to come. With the help of the "free" press, their anointed one was all but nominated. No way would a first term upstart and senate outcast like Ted Cruz overtake their anointed prince.

But then jumped in an older, long-maned alpha lion who's been around the block a couple times, roaring his way to the top of the hill. Trump's hard-nosed, no-nonsense, non-politically-correct, take no prisoners approach quickly grabbed the attention of the masses of fed-up voters. Trump single handedly slew the establishment's Prince Jeb, the media and the establishment itself and completely rewrote the rules of engagement.

His bold pronouncements that he would build a wall, enforce the law and deport them all was the exact right message at the exact right time and immediately vaulted him to front-runner status. And he added to that that he would end sanctuary cities, end anchor babies and even slap a moratorium on Muslim immigration. Again, exactly what the masses wanted to hear.

Now, many of us feel that these twin invasions (illegal aliens and Muslim infiltrators) were and are existential threats to our national sovereignty and were thrilled to have a mighty warrior like Trump who takes no guff from the media or the establishment to lead the charge.

The media, the establishment and even many so-called conservatives immediately objected with "you can't do that." It's unconstitutional and un-American. It's not who we are as Republicans.

That last one was especially telling. "It's not who we are as Republicans."

Ain't that the truth. And that's our entire problem in a nutshell.

Trump's huge rallies attracted thousands and thousands and his polling numbers soared for months. He was leading in most of the national polls and in most states.

But there was a growing counter-insurgency rumbling beneath the rebellion. Trump's history is strewn with contradictory and potentially fatal landmines. Too many of his past pronouncements and activities were on the NY liberal side and some are too much for Christian constitutional conservatives to bear or forgive. He swears that he's now a pro-life, pro-family Christian, but he has also stated that he's never asked for forgiveness. That's mighty hard for Christians to accept, but who are we to judge what's in a man's heart.

So here we are. The rebellion is roaring. The people are massing. Torches and pitchforks at the ready, but we are divided on who should lead it. And not just divided, we're scratching each others eyes out fighting about it. And as we do, the establishment's second choice (Gang of Eight traitor Rubio) is making inroads.

Personally, I'm all in for the Rebellion no matter who leads it. And I've often stated that Cruz is my favorite because of his constitutional conservative stance, but if Trump wins the nomination I'll enthusiastically support him in the general. Why? Because we cannot possibly allow yet another American-hating communist to follow Obama into the White House to complete the job of totally destroying our free Republic. End of that story. It's a no-brainer and my picture is in the dictionary under that term.

I absolutely love Trump's bold stand against illegal aliens and his call for a moratorium on Muslim immigration and believe it's even stronger than Cruz's past positions. I also love Trump's Reagan-like tax plan. Cruz's flat tax proposal is also interesting. I believe they both want to cut regulations, cut spending, cut government, return education to the states, etc, build a powerful military and fight against terrorism and make America great again.

Cruz is stronger on life and marriage and probably on choosing judges, but Trump says he's a pro-life, pro-family Christian but that's always a gamble anyway. Even Reagan and GWB blew a few judicial nominations.

The important thing here (IMHO) is that we save our nation. I'm not ready to rule out either of these candidates. Cruz is off to a great start and is up by one delegate over Trump and together they're double the GOPe's second choice. But it's a long hard grind ahead.

I say we should let the candidates fight it out and not be so eager to trash either one of our leading candidates. Digging up and publishing dirt and rumors on either is not doing our side any good and is potentially destructive in the long run.

And trashing our fellow FReepers is something that should never be done. This is going to be a long fight and we do not want to lose too many of our friends.

Meanwhile, let the rebellion gain strength. We're all in it together to save our nation. Please save your ammunition and your venom for the true enemy on the left.

Oh, I almost forgot. If you haven't already done so, please get your donation in. We're gonna need it to survive this fight.


TOPICS: Breaking News; FReeper Editorial; Free Republic; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2016election; cruz; elections; freepathon; jimrob; neither; rebellion; trump; uniparty; voter; voterrebellion
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To: vette6387

bubble boy is Christie’s nickname for Amnesty Boy Rubio


81 posted on 02/03/2016 2:28:01 PM PST by Lurkinanloomin (Know Islam, No Peace - No Islam, Know Peace)
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To: DoughtyOne

As the first elected Freeper Regional President of ILLINOIS and connected states I led a proud group of Freepers against the corrupt Clintons.

Today I’m simply shocked that Mr. Robinson is being so haughty in allowing space for all the lying, corrupt, posts from these Cruzebots.

I...at an age of 83...can’t forgive Jim’s letting this happen!
- Mike Cover


82 posted on 02/03/2016 2:29:03 PM PST by vista500 (The Vista 500 ...still pushing for Trump down in Homosasa Florida! Moved here from Chicago in 2006!)
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To: Ulysse
There is shamefully a stupid conservatism , stupidly stuck on its principles

If you have no principles, then you get liberalism. It has never been otherwise.

83 posted on 02/03/2016 2:31:02 PM PST by fwdude
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To: vista500

Got to look at the big picture.

As a Cruz supporter, I have admit that Trump would prosecute Hillary/Kerry / Huma wrong doing more vigorously.


84 posted on 02/03/2016 2:31:24 PM PST by fooman (Get real with Kim Jung Mentally Ill about proliferation)
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To: Jim Robinson
Jim,
You are sadly mistaken if you think Trump is capable of thinking for the benefit of anyone not named Donald J. Trump. I believe him to be an incredibly gifted liar and unworthy of leadership on any conservative principle.

My support for conservative ideals rests with Ted Cruz. Other than immigration, I believe Rubio champions many more conservative ideals than Trump. If Cruz should falter, I could stomach voting for Marco Rubio.

But Donald Trump? Never.

85 posted on 02/03/2016 2:32:20 PM PST by Sideshow Bob
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To: goldstategop; Jim Robinson
Digging up and publishing dirt and rumors on either is not doing our side any good and is potentially destructive in the long run.

You already ignored what Jim Robinson eloquently wrote in his Vanity post! If it was not for Trump, we would not be talking about Illegals and un-vetted Muslims coming from Syria, Iraq, and other trouble spots.

86 posted on 02/03/2016 2:32:27 PM PST by entropy12 (Cruz could double as a wind sock!)
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To: RGF

“I would still like a Trump / Cruz ticket. Trump, with Cruz’ guidance to blow up the place and then Cruz to pick up the pieces.”

Absolutely agree. They need to stop badmouthing each other. And Freepers need to stop badmouthing both of them.


87 posted on 02/03/2016 2:32:39 PM PST by tuffydoodle (Wake up, America.)
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To: Jim Robinson

Thanks. That’s worth a donation to FR from me.


88 posted on 02/03/2016 2:33:25 PM PST by windsorknot
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To: tuffydoodle

And each other.


89 posted on 02/03/2016 2:33:34 PM PST by fooman (Get real with Kim Jung Mentally Ill about proliferation)
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To: Sideshow Bob

Thanks Ted.


90 posted on 02/03/2016 2:34:21 PM PST by Eddie01 (If you burnin' bandwidth with your mind, find time to pay the organ grind - Donate to FreeRepublc)
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To: jacquej

Good analyses and I agree.
I’ve concluded that Trump is the right wrench to throw into the wheels of The Cheap Labor Express.


91 posted on 02/03/2016 2:35:15 PM PST by Lurkinanloomin (Know Islam, No Peace - No Islam, Know Peace)
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To: Jim Robinson
Thanks Jim. I almost posted a vanity; to get say something similar, but you are much more eloquent. I forget which of the founding fathers said it. “We will either hang together or hang separately.”
92 posted on 02/03/2016 2:35:41 PM PST by Idaho_Cowboy (Ride for the Brand. Joshua 24:15)
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To: Jim Robinson

Very well said!

I say both but at this time prefer Trump over Cruz due to the illegal alien and Muslim stance, Rubio scares me to death because of his gang of 8 fiasco.

Amen to stopping the Freeper bashing!


93 posted on 02/03/2016 2:36:33 PM PST by jazusamo (Have YOU Donated to the Freep-a-Thon? https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: Jim Robinson

Only one does not have donor cash attached to him.

There is no rebellion as long as the establishment staye firmly in place.

I am not optimistic about this election. It will be establishment in the end.

Looks like not much left to do as far as voter rebellion.


94 posted on 02/03/2016 2:36:51 PM PST by dforest
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To: Jim Robinson

I’m for Cruz, ok with Trump. Accept no substitutes....


95 posted on 02/03/2016 2:37:46 PM PST by GenXteacher (You have chosen dishonor to avoid war; you shall have war also.)
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To: Jim Robinson
In this current race, Cruz and Trump could compliment each other. IF...they would both cease the more brutal nastiness directed at each other. It would be very satisfying to have either a Trump/Cruz or Cruz/Trump ticket. I can envision a few places for Ben Carson and Sarah in a cabinet. Even a Rick Santorum. But, it really bothers me when FReepers go beyond policy disputes with opposing candidates and become personal with the candidates and each other. It is an emotionally draining couple decades since the Gipper brought class and dignity, honor and fidelity to the White House. I hope that very soon it will return.
96 posted on 02/03/2016 2:38:45 PM PST by Thumper1960 (Cruz/Palin2016)
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To: Jim Robinson

If Trump and Cruz do not knock off the idocy it will be Rubio.

If Cruz and Trump don’t knock off this idiocy, they are going to hand the nomination to Rubio.

I have this cartoon in my mind.

Cruz dressed as a Puritan, and Trump in his standard suit are screaming at each other nose to nose pool side. Meanwhile Rubio, in a speedo, walks away are in arm with a middle aged woman with “GOP Voters” on her skirt, saying “
“There there dear, let just leave the boys to their games.”


97 posted on 02/03/2016 2:38:56 PM PST by MNJohnnie ( Tyranny, like Hell, is not easily conquered)
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To: Jim Robinson
Meanwhile, let the rebellion gain strength. We're all in it together to save our nation. Please save your ammunition and your venom for the true enemy on the left. Oh, I almost forgot. If you haven't already done so, please get your donation in. We're gonna need it to survive this fight.

BIG BUMP ON ALL OF THAT!

98 posted on 02/03/2016 2:39:31 PM PST by The Cajun ( Sarah Palin, Mark Levin, Mike Lee, Louie Gohmert....Nuff said.)
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To: Ulysse
We'll just have to agree to disagree.

No way would I ever consider turning the reins of this country to a man-child who can't control his emotions and runs off screaming every time he's not given favored status!

This from the guy who bragged about his great deal making prowess!

I mean his tweets screaming how he was cheated this a.m.?

Nah, bring him back when he's finished intense therapy and an be trusted alone with scissors, maybe then I'll consider Donald!

99 posted on 02/03/2016 2:39:38 PM PST by zerosix (Native Sunflower)
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To: Jim Robinson

Vote Cruz.


100 posted on 02/03/2016 2:40:40 PM PST by ziravan (Buck the Establishment.)
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