JIm It's Time You Demand A Truce In Cruz/Trump War!

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[OneVike]

Jim;

Things have gotten way out of control here as of late. You know as well as most of us, that this war must end and end now, or your forum will end up being nothing more than a joke.

I humbly suggest that you not just request, but demand, that everyone step back and take a serious look at the slanderous comments being made by both camps. Debate is one thing, but what is happening is no longer a debate. This forum is on the verge of a civil war. A war that need not happen. For the good of this great forum, I and many I have talked to on both sides of the war admit things have gone too far.

I am a Ted Cruz supporter, yet I call on all my fellow Cruz supporters to put the knives back in the sheaths, as I ask the same of all you Trump supporters.

This civil war of Freeper against Freeper must end, or the result will inevitably be a complete destruction of this once great forum.

I begin by laying down my weapons as a gesture of good will. From hence forth I will not post any comments that are just knee jerk angry remarks that only serve to fuel the fires of hate and animosity.

We all have a common enemy in this fight, the eventual Democrat Presidential Nominee. I suggest we all remember this, because a house divided upon itself cannot stand, nor defeat the enemy.

I also offer this promise to everyone. Should Trump win the nomination, I promise to fight as hard, and as passionate, for him to become POTUS as I will for Cruz.

[OneVike]

Dittos

[Publius]

A FReeper would try to debate,
Some others would start up the hate.
Jim Rob got so hot
That he wielded the zot,
And now no one remembers their fate.

[Mechanicos]

LAMO

Fact is the loser is attacking Trump 24/7 as his only media hook. Want it to stop shut up the Cuban on Trump and make him run an honest campaign.

[dfwgator]

Nipsey Russell would have been proud.

[Lakeshark]

1. For Cruz to win the nomination now is rapidly becoming a mathematical impossibility.
2. Pointing out the emerging evidence that points to his established (and also perhaps to be established) character flaws is not "slander."
3. Calling for a truce when you are losing is not peacemaking, it is a ploy.

Seconding your post and giving it a BUMP!!!

[OneVike]

Well said

[Ingtar]

Anybody know any good jokes?

Trump, Cruz, and Kasich race into Arizona; Kashich comes in fourth.

[Freedom56v2]

Alot of the problems started to crop up after the Bush cabal joined the Cruz team. Coincidence?

My greatest fear is the GOPe installs Kasich, Ryan or some other globalist as the nominee at the convention. We can’t let that happen. If Trump or Cruz don’t have the delegates at the convention don’t be deluded into thinking they can get the nomination. Rove and his ilk aren’t signing off for Cruz as the nominee even if Bush and others in Cruz’ inner circle are whispering that in his ear.

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Math seems pretty clear to me. If Trump does not get enough delegates to win, it will be brokers/contested—or whatever they wish to call it. If Cruz is the true outsider his supporters think he is, he won’t get voted in on subsequent votes. So I am becoming increasingly certain that we are going to have a Ryan nomination—maybe with Kasich as VP...Exactly what the GOPe and ALL the other candidates want—ANYONE EXCEPT TRUMP :(

[Theophilus]

I'm going to try very hard not to be rude or discouraging to Trump supporters anymore or to retaliate. I'll even compliment Trump when I like what he says as I did today. However, to pledge loyalty is to deny the real and substantial differences that we and the candidates have. For example, if someone really believes Cruz is an adulterous liar, it would be a sin to vote for him. If one did not believe or had no proof of it, it is a sin to slander him for political purposes.

Rather than reject a brokered convention before the fact, why not consider the possibility that there may be some serious conservative people left in the USA that could unite us. I offer Mike Lee, Jeff Sessions, Jim DeMint or even my new outstanding governor, Matt Bevin as a few possibilities.

There have to be others we could agree on outside the GOP if the GOPe steals the nomination.

And another thing. It takes a lot of ambition guts and effort to run for President. But if a candidate for Commander and Chief does not have the same attitude of duty, sacrifice and the pledge of life, fortune and sacred honor that our Armed Forces have, that candidate is not fit. This office is bigger than any personality or ambition.

[Rusty0604]

Lol

[OneVike]

What worries me most is that FR is transforming from a conservative, constitutionalist forum to one which is nationalist, nativist, and statist, even if unintentionally.

You forgot to add, "Populist".

[Responsibility2nd]

You posted this knowing full well there would be Cruz and Trump protagonists.

Further, you know full well that this is how it should be.

[Starstruck]

If a whole lot of people continue posting that they won’t vote for our nominee (Trump/Cruz or whomever) after one has won the primary, a whole lot of people will find themselves sitting it out from FR for the duration

OK. I can accept that. And let me be the first Cruzer to say that if Donald gets his 1237 delegates at the Convention I will not have one negative word to say about him through the General. After he is President he becomes fair game again as would Cruz. Now if someone who hasn't run comes in a steals the nomination all bets are off.

[Vendome]

[Mark17]

😆😀😄😊

[tophat9000]

The problem is not Trump vs Cruz, it is Free Thinkers vs Political Correct purveyors of Orthodoxy. The “movement conservatives”, “true conservatives” are as dedicated to their orthodoxy as “progressives”, “liberals”, “communists”, “facists”, and Muslims.

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I would agree with that but I put it in a different way

conservative movement does have its own “political correctness”

it's like generals that are always prepared to fight the last war they have a theoretical Orthodoxy that out of date
it's World War 2 the Maginot Line type thinking....

I say Reagan was conservative movement's World War One... and we're fighting conservatism's World War Two

and I believe they don't realize Reagan was actually quite adaptable

we're talking an FDR Democrat that became a Conservative Republican

but he was always a pro American...
He recognize and fought the battles that were in America's interest and for the best interests of the American people at that time

I think he recognize the Battle Ground has shifted and be fighting exactly the same forces that Trump is targeting anti sovereignty globalism

Reagan was unorthodox for GOP ideology at the time...and was a true believed in the country and it's people... he was not dogmatic

[King Moonracer]

Correction not needed, quisling is a noun and weasely an adjective. A quisling is a generic traitor and when they are weasely they are suggestive of a weasel.

[ConservativeMind]

Cruz can’t be a felon until he’s been convicted.

So, you can vote for him.

[austinaero]

I’m with you.
I don’t like Cruz and I worked hard in Texas to get him elected to Senate.

However, I know for sure I do not want either Hillary or Bernie as POTUS>

The conflict for me is, if a candidate wins or gets closest to some delegate threshold,,then the GOP rips it away from them,,,who do I support?

If the GOP does that, I’m doing a write in. I can say that win clear conscious because at that point it will be obvious that the GOP doesn’t give a damn if a Dem wins.

If the GOP candidate wins in the first round by majority, it will be much easier to support that candidate.

We’ll just have to wait and see what happens.

[drewh]

dang, you got me there! i guess it could thoeretically happen...