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Do Close Special Elections Mean Republicans Are in Trouble?
National Review ^ | 04/21/2017 | Michael Barone

Posted on 04/21/2017 7:31:44 AM PDT by SeekAndFind



TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Georgia; US: Kansas
KEYWORDS: barone; elections; first100days; ga2017; gop; ks2017; pompeo; republicans; specialelections; tomprice
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(HAT TIP DEROY MURDOCK NYPOST 12/26/16)

EXCERPT-----As President Obama concludes his reign of error, his party is smaller, weaker and ricketier than it has been since at least the 1940s. Behold the tremendous power that Democrats have frittered away — from January 2009 through the aftermath of Election Day — thanks to Obama and his ideas:

•Democrats surrendered the White House to political neophyte Donald J. Trump.

•US Senate seats slipped from 55 to 46, down 16 percent.

•US House seats fell from 256 to 194, down 24 percent.

•Democrats ran the Senate and House in 2009. Next year, they will control neither.

•Governorships slid from 28 to 16, down 43 percent.

•State legislatures (both chambers) plunged from 27 to 14, down 48 percent.

•Trifectas (states with Democrat governors and both legislative chambers) cratered from 17 to 6, down 65 percent.

SOURCE http://nypost.com/2016/12/25/obamas-legacy-is-a-devastated-democratic-party/

21 posted on 04/21/2017 7:50:48 AM PDT by Liz (The shutting down of free speech IS a form of hate speech. samtheman)
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To: treetopsandroofs
National Review is most certainly NOT big media in my book. Their "Against Trump" issue showed me that.

I tend to think of these people not as trolls, but as "concern ninnies" who are trying to protect some haughty sense of a lying duplicitous false 'conservative RINO' ESTABLISHMENT. They didn't like having their applecart upset by pissed off American voters - primarily because THEIR rice bowls were ALWAYS brimming over in DC, NY or wherever the hell those fools live, pretending to be conservatives - or Americans.

THIS! is the face of NR for me, and anybody that pretends to be or think like me or flyover America by writing for that electronic do-rag. Go tell somebody stupid enough to believe it.


22 posted on 04/21/2017 7:51:59 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: SeekAndFind

No. If they start losing them, then they’re in trouble.


23 posted on 04/21/2017 7:52:10 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: marstegreg
Is the flow of funds from NY & CA so unlimited that they can afford to dump another $10 million, or more? I don't think so, but I've been wrong before.

At some point, these donors will want to see a return on their investment.

24 posted on 04/21/2017 7:53:20 AM PDT by Night Hides Not (Remember the Alamo! Remember Goliad! Remember Gonzales! Come and Take It!)
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November, 2018 up next. Let's look at the numbers.

HAT TIP VENDOME---23 Dems, 2 indies and 8 Republican seats are up in 2018. The math is improbable, as in not even possible for Dems to make a gain. At least 10 of those seats are very much in jeopardy.

The Dem are going to lose bigly and then the census favors the Republicans in 2020.

Trump for 8 years and with a Republican majority...then Pence for eight years. If you force the nuclear option just once, that becomes the standard for the next 8 years. We will get 4 more bites of the apple on SCOTUS, ensuring wins on almost any issue for the next 16 years of elections and 100 years in the courts.

25 posted on 04/21/2017 7:53:41 AM PDT by Liz (The shutting down of free speech IS a form of hate speech. samtheman)
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To: SeekAndFind

The GA special election isn’t close. Give me a break! Karen Handel will be the next 6th Dist rep.


26 posted on 04/21/2017 7:54:55 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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To: SeekAndFind

No!


27 posted on 04/21/2017 7:55:12 AM PDT by Renegade
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To: SeekAndFind

Let’s Get Real: The Democrats Didn’t even win a Moral Victory in Georgia

National Review ^ | 04/19/2017 | Jeremy Carl
Posted on 4/19/2017, 6:40:24 AM by SeekAndFind

I don’t want to sound like the Baghdad Bob of the 2018 election cycle, but the special election in Georgia’s 6th congressional district was yet another reminder that despite the mainstream media’s relentless narrative attempting to turn the early days of the Trump administration into a story of GOP rout, reality has stubbornly refused to cooperate with them.

Don’t get me wrong—the GOP is absolutely facing headwinds in 2018. And there’s a lot of political ground left to cover in November. I’d certainly rather be in a position of winning districts by increasing margins rather than decreasing ones. Could the GOP lose the House?—Absolutely. But, as I wrote in my recent analysis of the 2018 election cycle, the Senate is not going to go Democratic in this political environment—or even anything close to it.

GA-06 is according to both the Cook PVI and 538.com the most Democratic-leaning seat in GA held by a Republican. There are 46 districts held by the GOP that are more Democratic than this one according to the 538 model. On the surface that would seem alarming for the GOP since the Democrats need win only 25 more seats to get a majority. But most of these are only very narrowly closer than GA-06. And very few of them will be open seats, as this one was. Given the broader context of the race, the political handicappers had already rated this race as a toss-up. The vast majority of allegedly vulnerable GOP seats are rated as no worse than GOP leans.

And GOP candidates look to have won overall by a couple of percent in an election in which they were badly outspent and spent most of their time attacking each other while Ossoff got slobberly wet kisses from the media and a largely free ride from his GOP opponents. Ossoff got tons of love and money from Hollywood, raising and spending well more than $8 million.

Regardless of what happens in the June runoff, Democrats are not going to bottle that same level of energy and attention and put it in 435 districts in November. They needed a victory and they didn’t get it. And at the end of the day, they didn’t even get that close, finishing with 48.1% of the vote.

Ossoff’s voters were certainly energized. Volunteers came from all over the country and 95% of his money came from outside the district. He took a staggering 71% of the early vote, showing that the most passionate Democrats, the same ones screaming at the GOP town halls, are definitely motivated. But there just don’t seem to be enough of them right now to swing the number of elections they need to win. And In Karen Handel the GOP picked probably the strongest candidate to go up against Ossoff in the general election.

As I wrote in my piece on 2018, the Georgia special election was a must-win for the Democrats if they wanted to show they had real political momentum on their side and a clear path to retake the House majority. They didn’t get there tonight. The reports of the electoral death of the GOP continue to be greatly exaggerated.

http://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3545361/posts


28 posted on 04/21/2017 7:58:43 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (Don't bother with fake news about Trump on MMS/FAUX. FR has Trump's Tweets and his real news daily!)
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To: Georgia Girl 2

I agree. This is just another case of some national a-hole trying to put in his 2 cents for a time-relevant column. In the end, the majority R-like voters will coalesce around the one candidate and they will again show Democrats great hay cannot be made out of the errant weed.


29 posted on 04/21/2017 8:07:13 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: marstegreg

RE: The author neglected to mention that Ossoff received most of his 8 million dollars from New York and California.

What really bugs me is this — Why does the amount of money poured in to a candidate matter to voters who know the issues?

Are most people so easily swayed by money poured into political ads that they don’t bother to check the truth for themselves?


30 posted on 04/21/2017 8:09:21 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

It will be very easy for the dems to use ridicule as a campaign technique. The ‘pubs except for the Freedom Caucus cast themselves as hypocritical dishonest useless traitors to their cause. They did it by voting to repeal Obamacare over 50 times when they knew it didn’t count, then attempting to replace it with their own version of it when it counted.


31 posted on 04/21/2017 8:10:16 AM PDT by grania (only a pawn in their game)
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To: Biggirl

I know it is a red state and this is a very red district in a very red state.. Price just won this district in November by 20 points+ It is not going to swing 20+ points in a head to head race 6 months later.

People really need to stop being so easily manipulated by the MSM propaganda.

The reality is an empty seat, any Democrat was going to probably pull 45% in the district in a special election.... The fact Dems spend 6+ Million bucks to GOTV in the district for the special election got them at most about 3% more than a generic D would have gotten without any outside money or help.

Dem will be vanquished easily in the head to head... hopes to sneak one in while the other side is divided didn’t work... and were never likely to work.

Folks really need to stop buying into the propaganda and sky is falling nonsense of the MSM... its all LIES. All of it, did you learn nothing from the entire 2016 campaign season? They are the propaganda arm of the Democrat party.. nothing more.. they aren’t going to tell you the truth.

Truth is simple.. Price won the district by 20+ points 6 months ago, its not going to swing 20+ points even in a special election to give the D’s the seat, especially in a head to head runoff.

Generic D should have gotten 45%+/- since the seat was open and not going against an incumbent... They wound up with 48%... which was probably due to the massive amount of outside money trying to GOTV... and the fact the other side was fractured... in a direct head to head... D won’t get anywhere near a victory... most likely in the 40-45% range and easily vanquished.... A deep red district is NOT going to swing 20 points toward blue in 6 months unless republicans stay home.


32 posted on 04/21/2017 8:11:23 AM PDT by HamiltonJay
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To: Gaffer

I predict Handel gets 53% on June 20th.


33 posted on 04/21/2017 8:12:23 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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To: Theodore R.

Won’t Ossoff have a harder time of it now that he’s a known Carpetbagger? Does Handel have it in her to run a focused and confident enough campaign to get really nasty about making the label stick?


34 posted on 04/21/2017 8:12:44 AM PDT by grania (only a pawn in their game)
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To: Gaffer; treetopsandroofs

One should never always EQUATE not wanting Trump to be the GOP nominee with not wanting him to be President AFTER he becomes the nominee.

Those are TWO DIFFERENT THINGS.

Sure, there are NeverTrumpers in National Review ( Kevin Williamson comes to mind ). But Most of those who did not want Trump to be the nominee in February 2016 VOTED FOR HIM on November 2016, and are OBJECTIVELY looking at his Presidency and hoping he does the right thing.

Mark Levin for instance did not want Trump to be the nominee... but after he won the nomination, he endorsed Trump over Hillary and to this day, wants Trump to succeed, but is never a lackey or a sycophant for everything he does.


35 posted on 04/21/2017 8:13:45 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: marstegreg

And they aren’t going to win one anytime soon, at least not one in any district that isn’t bluer than blue...

A referendum on TRUMP is a LOSS... they tried to turn 16 into that and LOST.... they will keep LOSING... everywhere but the blues of the blue districts....

The ONLY way D’s win a non deep blue district anytime soon is if the folks Trump brought the party begin to feel he isn’t putting america first.... they EVER feel that, they will go back to being disengaged and Dems have a shot outside their strongholds, but as long as the people who Trump brought to the dance feel he is doing what he said (or trying to anyway) and putting america first.... Dems have ZERO shot outside the whacakdoo leftist districts for any sort of win.

That’s the cold hard political reality... not what he NYT is reporting, or the cable news channels... that’s just the cold hard political reality. As long as Trump is doing (or perceived as doing) what he promised to do... Dems have no prayer.. his supporters will keep showing up... and he will keep winning. If however he is EVER perceived as not doing so, they will go back to being disengaged and not show up and then D’s may have a shot.. but at present there is little chance of that.


36 posted on 04/21/2017 8:17:47 AM PDT by HamiltonJay
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To: SeekAndFind

College student resident switching for voting purposes has to stop. We’ve seen it in VA where kids from the northeast come to school here, then switch their registration to their college town because NY/NJ/CT, etc. don’t need their votes for the Dem, whereas VA does (or did).


37 posted on 04/21/2017 8:18:22 AM PDT by EDINVA
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And that blue of MINN is very misleading... as Trump won the state on election day, only early voting held it for Hillary... had the election been a week later, MN would have gone Trump as well...


38 posted on 04/21/2017 8:18:58 AM PDT by HamiltonJay
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To: SeekAndFind

Michael Barone = solid analysis

1. He correctly correlates this Georgia special election to Trump’s 2 point margin of victory last fall. The result of the special election should not have surprised anyone.

2. He correctly points out that Republicans all together totaled 51 percent versus the total of 49 for the Democrats added together. Therefore, the run-off will be determined by turn-out. We turn our people out, we win.

3. He could have, but didn’t point out that the margin of victory scored by Dr. Tom Price last year is not a reliable indicator of which way the district might go in an open election. The advantage enjoyed by incumbents is simply ridiculous. Plus, Dr. Price is one of the very best public servants in the country. No wonder he breezed to re-election in a district the fundamentals of which aren’t particularly favorable for Republicans.

4. Unfortunately, Barone is too enamored with the identity politics of the other side. We have to fight the racism and sexism of that party.


39 posted on 04/21/2017 8:20:05 AM PDT by Redmen4ever
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To: HamiltonJay

Thanks for the input.


40 posted on 04/21/2017 8:24:46 AM PDT by Liz (The shutting down of free speech IS a form of hate speech. samtheman)
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