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What could be the biggest battle for property rights this country has ever seen.
Sawgrass Rebellion ^ | August 1, 2002 | Various

Posted on 08/01/2002 11:51:14 PM PDT by comwatch

HENRY LAMB Henry LambCalling All Convoy Freepers


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'Sawgrass Rebellion' launched "Private land owners are being forced off their land by a variety of coersive land-use policies, being imposed under the banner of Everglades Restoration," endangered species protection, open space, Heritage areas, and a host of other programs, all designed to displace people, or severely restrict the use of private property." Henry Lamb,  Executive vice president of the Environmental Conservation Organization.

"We predict that approximately 25,000 people will be forced to leave their homes." Don E. Lester, The 15,000 Coalition Naples, Florida


"WE'VE HAD ENOUGH!!" "We are taking back America and our rights as free citizens. Our hope has a name,  The Sawgrass Rebellion. In October, we will see what it is like to be a member of a family as big as this nation. We are definitely not alone in this fight and the powers-that-be will not be able to ignore the magnitude of our refusal to have our property rights trampled. We must take a stand to protect our land. Will you please join us in Naples, Florida."  Cindy Kemp, Naples Florida Property Rights Action Committee.



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To: sauropod
Of course only with "just compensation" - you didn't read my post very carefully, because my position 9and my suggestion) is all about that, but I won't waste my breath again. I can talk to a wall and get the same reply as with you and yours.
41 posted on 08/02/2002 8:24:00 AM PDT by summer
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To: sauropod
And, as far as W knowing anything - I never said anything about his entire record on land rights; I said he knows the problem of droughts here in FL, which Henry Lamb and you know ZERO about.
42 posted on 08/02/2002 8:25:32 AM PDT by summer
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To: summer
the gov't does have a legal right to take property

Okay, I'll admit that I am not very educated on this subject BUT I find the above statement very scary. You are arguing that the Gov't has the right to force people off there privately owned lands?!? Where does the Gov't obtain this authority? In other words, all land is actually owned by the Gov't. They are just allowing us to use it and can force us off at anytime? Very, very scary.

43 posted on 08/02/2002 8:25:54 AM PDT by KansasGirl
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To: Nitro
If he were in Israel in the trenches, it would almost be enough to get me to join the Palistinians. Almost.
44 posted on 08/02/2002 8:29:34 AM PDT by Blood of Tyrants
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To: comwatch
That photo is a classic for all time! Typical Clinton -- doesn't see, and doesn't care if he can't see. Image is all, but this 'image' backfired.
45 posted on 08/02/2002 8:29:45 AM PDT by WaterDragon
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To: 1Old Pro; Grampa Dave; Black Agnes
ATTENTION: Watch ABC's 20/20 tonight! Here is an email from him on tonight's segment:

This Friday's "Give Me A Break" about the "missing" lynx. The Canada lynx is getting some people very excited. An environmental group burned down a ski lodge in Vail because they thought it might threaten the lynx.

There are tens of thousands of lynx throughout North America, but because the bureaucrats weren't sure there were any in southern Washington state-they commissioned a million dollar study to find out. They placed pieces of carpet soaked with a catnip mixture on trees hoping the lynx would then rub up against them and leave some fur. Sure enough--samples the biologists sent to the lab contained hairs from a Canada lynx!

This is a frightening prospect for people who like using the land. Finding a threatened species can set in motion a series of events that can wreck your life if you're a rancher or farmer or just someone who wants to drive in the woods. It's a reason lots of people in southern Washington are scared of the government's environmental police. As land rights activist Mike Paulson put it, "We basically say if you have an endangered species in your area, we are going to take your livelihood away, we're going to destroy your communities, and we're going to make it very difficult for your families to survive."

That didn't happen this time because it turned out the government's biologist were caught cheating! The lynx hair sent to the lab came from a lynx that lives in a cage, miles away from where the biologists claimed they found the hair. How could this happen? Jim Beers, a Fish and Wildlife biologist for 31 years, says his agency changed from promoting science to pushing what some believe is fanatical environmentalism. Now he says the agency is " staffed with environmental radical activists" who will twist facts until they get the results they want; and what they really want...is to ban people from forests. "Once you establish that there are any lynx in the area, ...the areas in between suddenly become very urgent to not allow road to be built, not allow the ski slopes to come in... not allow grazing... ultimately, not to let you or I drive our wives and kids in for a picnic."

The biologists do have an explanation; they weren't trying to cheat, they say, they were just testing the labs to make sure they could actually identify lynx fur. Beers replies: "That's the same as you telling me that you caught them walking out of the bank with money and they said oh, we were just seeing if the system works here, we were going to return it tomorrow."

Were the biologists fired for cheating? No. How often do governments fire anyone? They were "verbally counseled," but they are still on the job. It makes me wonder what other parts of their science we don't know the truth about.

If we now have the extremists giving orders with the power of government, everyone's freedom is at risk.

Give me a break.


46 posted on 08/02/2002 8:33:17 AM PDT by madfly
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To: summer; sauropod
... the govt does have a legal right to take property ...

Wrong. The 'right' you seem to think government has is in actuality a privilege granted through the exercise of law in Eminent Domain. The govt has to answer in court in order to exercise that privilege.

Rights are owned by people.
Privileges are granted to governments from those rights under the US and States Constitutions, and they are restricted by those self-same documents.

By not understanding those simple truths, you can't understand the underpinnings that Henry Lamb and many others base their opposition on.

47 posted on 08/02/2002 8:45:58 AM PDT by brityank
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To: KansasGirl
See #47.
48 posted on 08/02/2002 8:47:32 AM PDT by brityank
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To: madfly; farmfriend; marsh2; dixiechick2000; Mama_Bear; poet; Grampa Dave; doug from upland; ...
Ping for ABC's 20/20 tonight and John Stossel.
49 posted on 08/02/2002 8:51:58 AM PDT by brityank
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To: sauropod
Hey, you were right! You didn't get a reasoned debate! Surprise! (not!)
50 posted on 08/02/2002 8:55:11 AM PDT by Black Agnes
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To: summer
If Jeb and the eco wackos hadn't already ruined these farmers livelihoods with vast and insane EPA/ESA/COE regulations, they wouldn't need a special 'Protection' act now would they?
52 posted on 08/02/2002 8:58:32 AM PDT by Black Agnes
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To: BillinDenver
Re: G.W. Bush Texas land grab for a baseball stadium : How dare you say "the emperor has no clothes" ;don't you know what happens to speakers of unpopular truths ?
53 posted on 08/02/2002 9:15:54 AM PDT by hoosierham
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To: Nitro
"I would grab a rifle and get in the trench and fight and die," Clinton proclaimed, according to a report by the Canadian Press news service.

Someone paste this all over the world!!!! Slick-Draft-Dodging-SOB-Willie says he's ready to pick up a weapon and defend someone elses country when he hadn't the nuts to defend his own!!!!

EBUCK

54 posted on 08/02/2002 9:25:20 AM PDT by EBUCK
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To: madfly
It makes me wonder what other parts of their science we don't know the truth about.

Any student who's taken Chem 101 has learned how to "fudge" the data recorded in order to achieve the desired results. How a person conducted their lab experiments after becoming familiar with that practice was a reflection on their character.

I guess we know what path these government biologists (& liberals in general) chose.

56 posted on 08/02/2002 10:06:22 AM PDT by Freebird Forever
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To: summer; Black Agnes; countrydummy; madfly; Grampa Dave; KLT; ned13
re: posts 41 and 42. Yet you characterize him as a "whacko."

I personally do not know much about the Florida water situation that you keep referring to, but I DO know about the land grabs and the lying and stealing that the land management agencies do in cahoots with the eco-fascists.

How can i take you or your point seriously when you label Henry Lamb a "whacko?"

Have you BOTHERED to look into (read) such things as the Convention on Biological Diversity, Agenda 21, the Rio Declaration, the Man and the Biosphere Program, the Seville Strategy, the upcoming Rio +10 greenie love fest at Johannesburg later this month, Smart Growth, "sustainable development," etc.

I have. I have read a number of UN documents and many articles by the extreme left eco-fascist crowd. In fact, the eco-anarchists are coming to my town next week. (Baltimore and DC). They have a nationwide tour going on.

What is your response to that? Or, are you like most liberals - they have a small brain and refuse to learn?

'Pod

PS. I WILL take it as an action to learn about this water issue. I also have newspaper articles detailing the effort of some Floridians to turn big chunks of the state into Wildlands core and buffer areas. Suggest you check it out.

57 posted on 08/02/2002 10:32:18 AM PDT by sauropod
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To: Black Agnes; AAABEST; Noumenon
AAA, you should enjoy this food fight. 'Pod
58 posted on 08/02/2002 10:35:06 AM PDT by sauropod
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To: sauropod; summer; Black Agnes
I don't think summer can see the forest for the trees so to speak, I have a real feeling she has been blinded by rhetoric and propaganda that the real wacko's are so good at spinning!

Brit's post #43 I think, speaks volumes!!!!!!!!!! Why does not the government find the technology to use the water that surrounds and I mean surrounds that area instead of "taking" land from private landowners? I would much rather see my tax dollars used for such, instead of destroying families, their homes and their heritages and livelihoods!

Summer, get the tape, a documentary done several years ago by Jessic Lang now deceased, titled, "For the Good of the All".......that should help to really open your eyes!

59 posted on 08/02/2002 10:58:53 AM PDT by countrydummy
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To: sauropod
This is the latest thread on how the Green Eco Terrorists in their Rural Cleansing agendas put 17,000 innocent Oregonians in harms way way with out of control fires. Fires that were/are a direct result of a decade of no roads, no timber harvest of even dead trees and no brush removal in the area burning West of the Illinois River. (Latest thread on the 17,000 Oregonians in harm's way due to Rural cleansing fires due to Green Agendas)
60 posted on 08/02/2002 10:59:18 AM PDT by Grampa Dave
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