LEGISLATOR: STOP SCHOOLS FROM FIDDLIN' WITH RITALIN

New York Post ^ | 8/07/02 | MARSHA KRANES

[kattracks]

A Brooklyn lawmaker is worried that schools are inappropriately recommending the psychoactive drug Ritalin as a way to handle high-strung students.

Should school systems be allowed to recommend that children be put on psychoactive drugs?

Three states have barred teachers and other school staffers from recommending that a student be put on Ritalin or any other psychoactive drug - and New York may be joining them.

[The Right Stuff]

I wouldn't put my child on Ritalin no matter who recommended it.

[MedicalMess]

We have a theory here that ADHD and Bipolar disorder is caused by Clostridium difficile and that treatment with Ambrotose (complex sugars) and Flagyl antibiotic may stop the problem. Clostridium perfringens is known to cause sugar absorption problems and difficile is genetically real close to perfringens. Waiting to try it on a few patients. You can imagine what sugar absorption problems would do to the brain.

Check this out at www.glycoscience.com

[philman_36]

Those who oppose the legislation contend that it's negligent for an educator to refrain from helping a child who has a biologically based disease that could, if left untreated, lead to failure, accidents, and other problems.
You would think that there would be a physiological test instead of psychological tests to detect a "biologically based" disease. There aren't any.
INSTITUTE OF AUSTRALASIAN PSYCHIATRISTS
However a specific neuropsychological or physiological test for ADHD does not exist at this stage.
Dramatic Rise in ADHD Sparks Controversy
Snip...Diagnosis of ADHD is subjective and based on a child's behavior at home, school, and in other social settings. Sterman said there is a need for physicians to rely on biological markers instead of behavioral markers.
Snip...A reliable, physiological test would go a long way in refuting the contention that ADHD is a myth. But so far, brain scanning and QEEG technology is still used as a research tool rather than as diagnostic instrument.
Without a reliable tool to diagnose ADHD as a physical disorder, some believe ADHD is not a brain-based disorder, but rather a reflection of societal and family problems in the U.S. culture. But the dispute about whether ADHD is a real disorder gets personal for some whose children have been diagnosed with the disorder.
It's all Psychobabble Rap for America to Breakfast on.

[cva66snipe]

I think it's a gross misdiagnoses of a far more common group of disorders with very simular symptoms. Try Central Auditory Processing Disorders. The symptoms match those of ADD ADHD. But the origin is quite different as is the treatment. Allergies, ear infections, ect is thought to bring on C.A.P.D. This damages the sensory system primarilly the Vestibular System {Inner Ear} which can lead to Cognitive Behavior problems in children and adults.

I would bet as well it is among the leading cause of anxiety disorders in adults but the doctors have forgotten their stuff and simply look over Inner Ear Dysfunctions for SSRI's which makes the person even more worse off. A damaged sensory system doesn't need inhanced especially when the person is limited to single tasking function in that area.

Ritalin usually is of little use for C.A.P.D. as well. Treating the allergy or ear infectionsa to limit further damage is needed. In adults with anxiety disorders produced from this source Benzo's work pretty well in small but consistant of a 24 hour period dosage rather than large ones once or twice a day. You get more benifit from smaller dosages that stay in the bloodstream 24 hours a day. I would recommend a trip to the Audiologist long before a trip to a shrink anyday. Audiologist can diagnose C.A.P.D. shrinks for the most part are clueless.

[philman_36]

Waiting to try it on a few patients.
Don't you mean try it on a few guinea pigs? I mean, if ya'll don't know that is what they will be, not "patients". One man's patient is another man's guinea pig.
JMO.

[backhoe]

From a while back, but still relevant:

Rx Nation- are our children being medicated to death?

[MedicalMess]

It's not so bad being a guinea pig. I'm one. And I have a good two dozen less symptoms for it. One medical firm was able to predict ADHD from inflammatory bowel symptoms and those of fibromyalgia. We have confirmed Clostridium in fibromyalgia. One would need to test for Clostridium antibodies first and then move to PCR-DNA confirmation if such a test is available. We have bowel and serum antibody tests but have not been able to locate PCR-DNA amplification test, which is what we really need.

Clostridium appears to cause a cascade of other infections due to the sugar absorption problems which interfere with inter and intracellular communication. Common secondary infections are staph, candidas, microplasm and chronic salmonella. This in turn leads to complex autoimmune disorders. If we can suppress the pathogen the disorders disappear.

The real guinea pig is the fool that won't go after infection when no other explanation exists.

And forget pulling a white blood count or temperature reading because all these infections are stealth and totally bypass the immune system. To any doctor you look totally normal.

[MedicalMess]

Nope....

ADHD patients are responding to experimental complex sugar replacement, which suggests a sugar absorption problem from a pathogen. Don't believe it?

Think on this one... What if I was to tell you Type II Diabetes was an infectious disease and we could drop persons glucose level 50% in five days with two synergistic antibiotics? And what if this was done in the total apparent absence of any infection anywhere? What if I told you I could regress diabetic neuropathy 12 inches down the leg in the same period of time and keep it down for 4 years with no further treatment? They are both caused by the same bug.

If you understand the significance of what I have just told you then you know what an atomic bomb that I have to drop on the medical profession. We have performed this experiment three times now with 100% consistent results.

[greasepaint]

What is the standard referral fee for the drug-prescribing-
doctor to pay for a adhd 'patient'?
g.

[MedicalMess]

Standard Doctors referral fee.... $25 - $50

[philman_36]

The real guinea pig is the fool that won't go after infection when no other explanation exists.
A real "infection" is pretty easy to find and diagnose. There are plenty of physiological tests that can be performed to detect infection. I was under the impression that ADD/ADHD wasn't an "infection" at all, but was considered a "chemical imbalance" of some sort, thus the need to adjust brain chemicals with medication. A new one on me, to be sure.
Now, I'd go in to have an infection cleared up, but neither I nor my children will be guinea pigs for head shrinks.
Good luck with your "theory" and "research".

[mewzilla]

I have four words: private/parochial/home school.

[Diamond]

Every nightmare in this story has happened to us. We have a 22-year-old son with bipolar disease. Thank you for the information.

Cordially,

[MedicalMess]

You're absolutely right... ADHD is considered a "chemical imbalance".

The chemical imbalance is the effect. What causes/initiated the chemical imbalance? What is different in one person over another that causes an imbalance? You have to work the equation backwards and separate cause from effect.

When they say it's a chemical imbalance that's when you call them on their diagnosis and say, "OK, model your diagnosis".

This is where the crap hits the fan because they have no model. When you ask these people for a step by step walk through of the process that causes this "chemical imbalance" they can't. They haven't got a clue. Everything that occurs in the body is a discrete mathematical/chemical equation. Every systems analyst knows you can't solve a problem without a walk-through. Things start with Step A and proceed toward End Result Z.

Since the simplest explanation is usually the correct one, which is easier to believe: 1) The child has a genetic defect, 2) the child has been poisoned, 3) the child has mutated with an undetected cancer, 4) the child has picked up one of 5000 viruses or 100,000 strains of bacterium, 5) the teacher is an overbearing jackass that has it in for your kid, or 6) hormones?

I pick 5 first followed closely by 4 if the child is young, but 6 if child is 13yrs. or older, based solely on the way the numbers are likely to break.

[Free the USA]

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[philman_36]

Good points.
Another possibility...The child is in a situation they psychologically have problems dealing with early on such as divorce. It gets easier to deal with over time.
So many variables with too little hard data and a whole bunch of quackery IMO.

[crystalk]

This drug amounts to chemical castration of male children, nearly all of whom are being put on it as a condition of attending Satan's schools.

[cva66snipe]

But I say yes and I'm one of the ones I mentioned :>} C.A.P.D. is a Mimic Of ADD ADHD. Only an Audiologist can find it. The behavior is triggered due to the fact you are dealing with persons with Neurological damage who have limited tasking abilities. Harold Levinson MD discovered the connection in the mid 1970's between ADD ADHD symptoms, some symptoms of Dyslexia, and non phobic anxiety disorders. OK here's some links on it.

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These disorders have been here all along. But the trigger to set off the symptoms hasn't. Such things as Nitendo and a lot of TV cartoons are triggers. I am 45 was thought to have ADD ADHD as a kid and now have General Anxiety Disorder. Remember the allergy thread last night? I mentioned being allergic to mold and certain pollens? Well it was really severe as a kid and prolonged to the extent I took allergy shots. I have every classic symptom of a dysfunctional Vestibular System including Titinitus. What I hear certain sounds, certain visual effects set it off to now a seizure type response. I can't even watch most TV shows.

About 6 years ago I found a used book called Phobia Free by Harold Levinson that helped me piece together what my doctors could not. My life long medical history vs my on going anxiety attacks. SSRI's done a number on me but nearly killed my wife who also has Vestibular dysfunction common to quadriplegia. To get a quad to even tolorate sitting up in a chair again a tilt table is used. I'm also gonna Free-mail you another article that is really an eye opener but is no longer avaible on line.

I've seen news articles where school systems are backing off on ADD ADHD because they are realizing C.A.P.D. is far more common. An Audiologist preforms tasking testing and this is where it shows up. BTW Levinson still uses the terms ADD ADHD but still stands by his theory as to Vestibular Dysfunction being a cause.

[cva66snipe]

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