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Conservatives may have talk radio...
Townhall.com | 01-07-03 | Dennis Prager

Posted on 02/10/2003 12:26:41 PM PST by Norm640

--liberals dominate where they cannot be intellectually challenged. It is effortless for a college professor to spout leftist rhetoric to naive young people who just graduated from high school. Let them have to defend their radical views in public and they wilt.

That is why many leftist professors refuse to come on my radio show -- they are unused to intellectual debate. They live with, work among, and relate to, fellow leftists. They almost never have to engage conservative ideas. We in talk radio, on the other hand, immerse ourselves in liberal newspapers, debate liberal guests and take liberal callers.

In short, the reason the liberal message is not being heard, despite liberal control of almost all public organs of communication, is that it is incoherent. The message, not a lack of messengers, is the contemporary liberal problem.


TOPICS: Activism/Chapters; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: domination; liberals; media; theleft
I thought this was a nice comment on the core of debating with the Left. My eyes have been opened by debating with the few leftists on this site--they build straw men and never focus on the issue. Then they sneer and run off, claiming victory.

I thought this was written well, and accurately describes why Liberals are so wishy washy on everything (including war--John Kerry votes for war, now is against his own vote).

1 posted on 02/10/2003 12:26:42 PM PST by Norm640
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To: Norm640
That sums it up perfectly!
2 posted on 02/10/2003 12:28:22 PM PST by RAT Patrol
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To: Norm640
Cowardice walks hand-in-hand with Liberalism!
3 posted on 02/10/2003 12:29:43 PM PST by Destructor
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To: Norm640
A good article. We all have the right to question each others veiws, but I don't know anyone on the left that wants to hear an answer.
4 posted on 02/10/2003 12:30:43 PM PST by AndyTheBear
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To: Norm640
Already posted here.
6 posted on 02/10/2003 12:32:15 PM PST by TomServo
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To: Norm640
The essence of this argument is this:

Left-wing ideas are formed behind a wall of protection, in a 'temperature-controlled' environment like hothouse flowers. They can't stand rigorous testing. As more and more of society is subjected to rigorous debate via the emergent conservative media, leftism will disappear.

Left-wing politics is dead. The real (coming) battle is between conservatives and libertarians over moral issues.

7 posted on 02/10/2003 12:37:14 PM PST by HumanaeVitae (The purpose of the 'animal rights movement' is not to humanize animals, but to dehumanize men.)
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To: Norm640
There are leftists on this site?
8 posted on 02/10/2003 12:40:20 PM PST by Egregious Philbin (shhh...)
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To: HumanaeVitae
Left-wing politics is dead

Within the context of reasoned debate this has been correct for a long time, however what I think of as liberal politics is not so much dead, as it is marching on as a kind of undead facism.

9 posted on 02/10/2003 12:44:35 PM PST by AndyTheBear
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To: Norm640
I was once confronted with a situation with a liberal at work. There was a discussion about fathers day and he said "Leave it up to a democrat president to honor our fathers". I let it pass. I will set my trap in due time.

I later ask him regarding our dept budget problem, "Shouldnt we all just give a little money from our paycheck so we can afford new computers? I mean, they wont mind since its for new computers, right?"

He says "Are you kidding me? Thats my cash, im not going to let the company have it for something I cant use!"

I set the bait perfectly. He doesnt see my blindside coming but it is. Oh yes. It will feel like an NFL linebacker crushing the field goal kicker. It will be like my foot upon an ant. The crushing blow of a bowling ball upon a donut..........I say, "Your democracts do that very thing to me every paycheck, yet you have no problems??"

So he says, in natural liberal reaction, "Well, if republicans held office, everyone would be shooting each other!" I shook my head at him in a disappointed manor. Only I am 25 and he is 50.
10 posted on 02/10/2003 12:45:34 PM PST by smith288 ("Don't worry about me. If something happens, I've just gone on higher.")
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To: Egregious Philbin
Seen a few leftists here-once in a while.

What surpirsed the heck out of me is how many "freepers" have been lured to the "Dark Side" in many areas.

case in point (one out of many), this morning's article concerning unwed mother of quintuplets ON WELFARE and homeles (??) while her father, a BRAIN SURGEON, stayed in Africa and supposedly doesn't help??? BS! But read that thread and see the "poor lil thing" posts how we mean-spirited racists have to pay for the hospital bills and all further medical, food, and shelter for this "poor lil duaghter of an african surgeon"
11 posted on 02/10/2003 12:46:26 PM PST by steplock ( http://www.spadata.com)
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To: Norm640
Liberal = lack of intellectual maturity, childlike, emotional.

Conservative = deep intellectual base, mature, thinking.

In the recent era, one can note that the left calls names ("hymeytown", "house slave" just two examples).

The shrill screaming method of Carville plays to emotion; 'this guy is sure upset, so he must be right.' It is acting, and poor acting at that.

Dennis Prager is one of the more insightful thinkers of our time. He expresses ideas very well.

12 posted on 02/10/2003 12:49:36 PM PST by truth_seeker
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To: Norm640
The saddest part of all this is that even though the left is bankrupt, even though it has no real ideas, it will continue to be a potent force politically.

The conclusion I have come to is that huge numbers of people do not vote based on an analysis of the ideas presented to them in a campaign. They do not even vote their own self-interest. They vote their resentments, their envy, their desire to "get someone."

This element in human nature is ineradicable. And so there will always be a left to appeal to it.
13 posted on 02/10/2003 1:55:31 PM PST by ricpic
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To: AndyTheBear
You call it the undead, I call it a corpse. Still a fairly morbid outlook, pardon the pun.

Leftist politics took the fatal blow in 1991, when it's raison d'etre, the Soviet "workers' paradise", collapsed.

14 posted on 02/10/2003 2:29:07 PM PST by HumanaeVitae (The purpose of the 'animal rights movement' is not to humanize animals, but to dehumanize men.)
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To: smith288
So he says, in natural liberal reaction, "Well, if republicans held office, everyone would be shooting each other!"

You might want to mention to him that Teddy Kennedy's car has killed more people than your guns. ;-)

15 posted on 02/10/2003 3:22:23 PM PST by an amused spectator
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To: Norm640
More proof that the leftist media is slowly, but surely losing it's absolute control over what is and what is not news. We are living an historic period in American political history because by the month, the rat media is losing it's influence and consequently, it's ability to serve as the rats' lie machine. Look at how many rat politicians wind up looking like deer in the headlights when, oh so unexpectedly, they are hit with a hard question. Think about how maudlin half-bright made a fool of herself waiting for Russert to let up on her yesterday. There are lots more examples but; you get my drift.When the grip is broken, the rats are finished.
16 posted on 02/10/2003 3:31:20 PM PST by jmaroneps37
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To: Norm640
"My eyes have been opened by debating with the few leftists on this site--they build straw men and never focus on the issue. Then they sneer and run off, claiming victory."

I've seen my fair share of this even amongst people here on FR who call themselves "convervatives". I don't think it is a problem that is exclusive to only "leftists" or "liberals.

17 posted on 02/10/2003 4:34:17 PM PST by Bob Mc
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