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Israeli expert implicates Iraq in US anthrax attacks
Jerusalem Post ^
| Feb. 11, 2003
| DAVID RUDGE
Posted on 02/11/2003 7:37:08 AM PST by yonif
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To: MEGoody
I have long suspected that Iraq was behind the anthrax attacks. Wish we could prove it beyond doubt. When your sheep are being killed and there's only one wolf in the neighborhood, you shoot the wolf. That one doesn't take a whole lot of brains...
To: judicial meanz
Greetings judicial meanz, FReepers, et al:
Expert sources from my hazmat training assert:
(1) Anthrax previously produced by lunatic fringe groups never met weaponized grade of agent. Much like comparing Icarus wings against the space shuttle for aviation.
(2) The 2001 subject agent is a weaponized grade of anthrax. Very few countries in the world are capable of producing this grade of agent.
(3) While no "proof," many skeptics can not dismiss the possibility the subject agent was smuggled into the USA via many means, including diplomatic pouch.
My personal spin. Use the pedophile wannabe Ritter theorem:
Ask Scotty Ritter if Iraq was responsible. If slimy Scotty claims Iraq was not responsible, Iraq most certainly was responsilbe.
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posted on
02/11/2003 9:57:38 AM PST
by
OneLoyalAmerican
(I'm suffering writers cramp for whitty tag lines today.)
To: Semper Paratus
The same FBI who said the LAX shooting was not a terrorist attack.
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posted on
02/11/2003 10:02:56 AM PST
by
yonif
To: martianagent
Greetings martianagent, FReepers, et al:
Speaking of farm animals. Does anyone else wonder how much Mad Cow disease "research" Doktor Germ did?
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posted on
02/11/2003 10:03:08 AM PST
by
OneLoyalAmerican
(I'm suffering writers cramp for whitty tag lines today.)
To: yonif
From
testimony before the House Committee on International Relations, Dec 5, 2001
On the 20th of September, 2001, (
before the anthrax attacks were known) an article, attributed to Uday (Saddam's son), appeared in Iraq's
Babel newspaper that said:
"A virus would attack the raven [America] and it would respond to antibiotics at first, but in later times, would no longer be controlled by antibiotics."
And people wonder why GW has patience.
To: OneLoyalAmerican; patriciaruth; OKCSubmariner; Nogbad; Mitchell; Travis McGee; EternalHope; ...
From Bob Woodward's account of the National Security Council meeting of October 17, 2001,
Bush at War, p. 248:
They turned to the hot topic of anthrax. The powder in the letter mailed to Senator Daschle's office had been found to be potent, prompting officials to suggest its source was likely an expert capable of producing the bacteria in large amounts. Tenet said, "I think it's AQ" meaning al Qaeda. "I think there's a state sponsor involved. It's too well thought out, the powder's too well refined. It might be Iraq, it might be Russia, it might be a renegade scientist," perhaps from Iraq or Russia. Scooter Libby, Cheney's chief of staff, said he also thought the anthrax attacks were state sponsored. "We've got to be careful on what we say." It was important not to lay it on anyone now. "If we say it's al Qaeda, a state sponsor may feel safe and then hit us thinking they will have a bye because we'll blame it on al Qaeda." "I'm not going to talk about a state sponsor," Tenet assured them.
"It's good that we don't," said Cheney, "because we're not ready to do anything about it."
Funnily enough, ten days after this NSC meeting, Bob Woodward was peddling the "rightwing extremist" line in the
Washington Post:
FBI and CIA Suspect Domestic Extremists: Officials Doubt Any Links to Bin Laden.
Hmm. Odd, that. The administration concludes that the anthrax came from al-Qaeda, probably supplied by a state sponsor, but that it is inappropriate to inform the public of that conclusion. Ten days later, Bob Woodward is peddling the right-wing militia story to the public. What could this possibly mean? What could we possibly conclude from this?
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posted on
02/11/2003 10:17:32 AM PST
by
The Great Satan
(Revenge, Terror and Extortion: A Guide for the Perplexed)
To: OneLoyalAmerican
I was also fascinated by the West Nile Virus experiments the Iraqis did, coupled with the genesis of the virus being in close proximity to the UN building, where the Iraqis have a diplomatic presence.
I often wonder, even if it is a supposedly wild strain, if it was a test to find out how it would spread. Or, maybe I need a good box of Reynolds wrap..LOL
To: The Great Satan
Thank you for your post!What could this possibly mean? What could we possibly conclude from this?
Indeed. Sounds like a certain reporter was "on board" with the plan right from the beginning.
To: The Great Satan
Can't we believe that Bob Woodward is schizophrenic, or suffers from multiple personality disorder -- please, please, could we believe that instead? Or at least that something like his "deep throat" literary device was used -- that Mr. Cheney did not actually say what Woodward's literary muse enchanted Woodward's inner ear to hear?
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posted on
02/11/2003 10:35:02 AM PST
by
bvw
To: okie01
Addressing the anthrax to the Democrats makes it more plausible that a "right-wing crazy" was responsible To think of that requires a degree of sophistication about American politics that I think is negated by the attack on American Media. Like Jim Noble (see Post #10) I think that attack points to a guy who is 'lost in space' as far as understanding American culture is concerned. That's a guy who saw that sign, and thought he was attacking the American Media, or at least some big power in it. That's a clueless foreigner at work. Somebody like that would not understand our politics well enough to know right-wing from Shinola. Besides, didn't Fox News get one of those envelopes? The New York Post did as well. In fact the selection of the Post (as opposed to the Times) is another indicator that the guy didn't know what he was doing. He just saw a row of newsstands and picked one. |
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posted on
02/11/2003 10:35:25 AM PST
by
Nick Danger
(these Frenchmen are all cheese and no moose)
To: Alamo-Girl
Sounds like a certain reporter was "on board" with the plan right from the beginning. Woodward was also used to promulgate the immensely useful myth of Powell the hand-wringing peacenik dove on Iraq. See the last chapter of Bush at War. Especially viewed from our current vantage point, the whole gambit seems almost laughably transparent. But, like the man said, nobody ever went broke underestimating the intelligence of the American people.
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posted on
02/11/2003 10:38:09 AM PST
by
The Great Satan
(Revenge, Terror and Extortion: A Guide for the Perplexed)
To: Allan
Bump
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posted on
02/11/2003 10:39:47 AM PST
by
Allan
To: The Great Satan
Thank you for your post!But, like the man said, nobody ever went broke underestimating the intelligence of the American people.
So true, so true...
To: John H K
WASHINGTON ANTHRAX
The Daschle/Leahy anthrax was HIGHLY pure and HIGHLY refined.
William Patrick, a germ-weapon microbiologist said he had learned
details of the federal inquiry from a senior investigator.
DASCHLE ANTHRAX
Patrick described the Daschle anthrax in Nov '01 as:
- high-grade
- free flowing
- electrostatic free
- highly concentrated (a trillion spores per gram)
- remarkably free of extraneous material
Richard Spertzel, microbiologist, former head of Iraqi inspection teams, on Daschle Anthrax in Nov '01:
- weapons quality
- fine particles
- readily dispersible
Al Zelicoff, physician, bio-weapons expert, Sandia on Daschle Anthrax in Nov '01:
- "the keys to the kingdom"
FBI in Nov '01 on Daschle - "much more refined" than NY media samples
- "more potent" than NY media samples
- "more easily dispersed" than NY media samples
LEAHY ANTHRAX
Per
"government sources" in April '02:
- a microscopic fineness
not achieved by U.S. bio-weapons experts - individually coated anthrax spores
To: John H K
2) Why single out Leahy and Daschle as your only government targets if you're Iraq or Al Queda? The only channel they get is CNN?
To: judicial meanz
Greetings judicial meanz, FReepers, et al:
Or, maybe I need a good box of Reynolds wrap..LOL Get the large, industrial size roll, and share with me too!
Before discovering Free Republic; a news story surfaced where a braggadocios Castro asserted Cuba would deliver bio-terror against the USA, through migratory bird routes.
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posted on
02/11/2003 10:58:43 AM PST
by
OneLoyalAmerican
(Le singe de la retraite dine sur le fromage.)
To: Kryptonite
Terror would have been magnified by dumping anthrax from the balcony at a basketball game, a movie theater, shopping mall. Letters to politicians was inconsistent with Bin Laden. He does not leave notes. People just die.
On the other hand, Bin Laden and others surely noted how a little anthrax and two losers in a car could terrorize the country. Who needs anthraw, even? Five or six snipers touring the country could cause total havoc.
To: The Great Satan
And by itself, the anthrax threats demonstrate conclusively that Saddam was the author of 9/11.
I had read several months ago that two of the 9/11 hijackers went to an emergency room in Florida because one of them had a "skin condition."
Many weeks later, after the anthrax attacks led to many articles about pulmonary anthrax and "skin anthrax," the ER doctor who treated the hijacker said that (he now realized) what the guy had on his skin was skin anthrax.
To: aristeides; thinden; honway; piasa; archy; Wallaby
Interesting that they had the Israelis release this first. The ace-in-the-hole begins to surface...
To: judicial meanz
'I have always believed Iraq was behind it.'
>>>>>>>>>>>.
I have always believed this, too and think the administration turned their focus to Iraq in earnest after the anthrax was sent here in the US. I suspect they have always known he was behind it, but to publicly state it [since it was an actual use of weapons of mass destruction provided to terrorists by a nation state]would have required a swift and terrible response. That could have brought us to a 'brink of world war' senario very quickly just from the sheer ferocity and the need for everyone to immediately choose sides - perhaps in the heat of political and religious fervor and too quickly for thoughtful response and good judgement.
I think the administration prefered to handle this with a methodical step by step approach that would allow us to better prepare our Clinton scaled back military and weaponry and handle Iraq on our terms and in our own time.
Our administration has talked many times about Saddam being able to hand off WMD to terrorists without leaving personal 'fingerprints' and I think these statements have not been based on hypothethical situations but on one we have already experienced. Someday I am expecting to see evidence that Atta set this up to happen as a follow up to his demise in the bombing. The only reason it was not worse was because these guys did not have a good understanding of how best to deliver the agent they were able to obtain from Iraq. We were very blessed they didn't.
Next time we will probably not be as fortunate and there will be a next time. This is why we WILL soon deal with Saddam no matter what.
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posted on
02/11/2003 11:48:10 AM PST
by
Route66
(America's Mainstreet)
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