Posted on 02/06/2006 1:02:10 PM PST by NYer
[Tenn, actually it wasn't PetroniusMaximus who gave the Acts of the Apostles reference for Peter and the "keys"; he was just quoting "Salvation"- see reply #38]
Yes, and in Matt. 28 Christ commanded the twelve to go to all the nations, make disciples, and "teach them to observe all things that I commanded you." I have the same responsibilities that Peter had, according to "the great commission."
Or so it seems to me. What do you think?
I'm always suspicious of Wikipedia. I don't know, there's just something about that site. It's like ANYONE can write an article for them and be considered authoritative. How do they choose their authors?
Sorry, don't mean to be asking you to do the work. I'll go look and see if they say anything about that...
I agree
I second. Beware of Wikipedia.
It is run by libs and you will get burned using facts from there unchecked.
I don't know much about the church of which he speaks (eastern orthodox?) (and I don't mean to be offensive but just to make a comment), but the title is scary... and borders on profane. The closest thing to a "holy mother" that I have would be the Holy Spirit who birthed me into the kingdom.
You are more than welcome. I see a lot of lack of Bible knowledge on this site. Too many people want to quote some man rather than the Bible. It really doesn't matter what any "religious historian" thinks. What matters is what God said and people need to ignore their particular religious indoctronation and get their nose in the Bible.
Thanks for that post.
Constantine didn't "convert" to Christianity.
He co-opted it and buried it for 1200 years.
I rejoice to understand how other believers are more fully sanctified in time through continuing faith.
The the case of the RCC, I understand how Scripture manifests a sanctification process for all believers in God through faith in Christ. Beginning with the mustard seed of salvific faith, the Holy Spirit grows that faith within us. As we remain in fellowship with Him, again through faith, that thinking in our souls is imparted to the spirit by the Holy Spirit to continue our sanctification. Again, through faith this occurs and is translated in the Greek as another form of faith, namely doctrine in our thinking or souls.
As the Church, or body of believers, all who are members of the royal priesthood of God through Christ, we continue to be sanctified through faith and doctrine.
Every believer has equal opportunity for continued sanctification. We are fortunate to have so much doctrine available to us today for our continued study, but just as our forefathers, that study and thinking must always flow through our continued fellowship with God through faith.
I rejoice when I observe indications that many RCC brethren and leadership continue to provide doctrine to their flock.
Those who become preoccupied in judging mistaken perceptions, easily fall out of fellowship, but those who remain in fellowship through faith, are not harmed by those pushing mistaken perceptions, rather their perseverence in faith will be counted for greater rewards at the bema seat.
I can understand how many might be divided in the title and many positions advanced in the article, but that is for nothingness. More blessed are those who remain perseverant in faith. I rejoice when I observe even indications that the perseverant remain in the Church, even when some advance false doctrines, which will not remove those who remain faithful to the Father through faith in Christ.
Among Catholic doctrines, those pertaining to the papacy tend to be the most misunderstood and contested by non-catholics. The following verses show the biblical basis for Catholic teaching on the primacy of Peter, the office of the papacy being established by Christ and allusions to the doctrine of infallibility. These doctrines reached their full development in the life of the Church only after centuries of contemplation and study, in councils and through the actions of the popes. And we should never forget that since the Church is likened by Christ to a “mustart seed” that grows and develops organically from a speck into a large treelike plant, therefore we should not expect to see the Church’s doctrines fully developed and visible in its present form in the pages of the New Testament. What we do find in the New Testament though, is the scriptural record of Peter’s primacy among the Apostles and the seminal outlines of the doctrines pertaining to the papacy.
One compelling biblical fact that points clearly to Simon Peter’s primacy among the 12 Apostles and his importance and centrality to the drama of Christ’s earthly ministry, is that he is mentioned by name (e.g. Simon, Peter, Cephas, Kephas, etc.) 195 times in the course of the New Testament. The next most often-mentioned Apostle is St. John, who is mentioned a mere 29 times. After John, in descending order, the frequency of the other Apostles being mentioned by name trails off rapidly.
When the names of all the Apostles are listed, Peter is always first. Judas Iscariot, the Lord’s traitor, is always listed last (cf. Matt. 10:2-5; Mark 3:16-19; Luke 6:14-17; and Acts 1:13). Sometimes Scripture speaks simply of “Simon Peter and the rest of the Apostles” or “Peter and his companions” (cf. Luke 9:32; Mark 16:7; Acts 2:37), showing that he had a special role that represented the entire apostolic college. Often, Scripture shows Simon Peter as spokesman for the entire apostolic college, as if he were the voice of the Church (cf. Mat. 18:21; Mark 8:29; Luke 8:45; Luke 12:41; John 6:68-69).
The Church that believes the bread and wine turns into the actual blood and flesh of Christ and yet does not believe that God gave us His word. Now that is what is surprising.
why does the church limit God in this regard ?
I think he was in North Africa.
Wow that was quick...didn't take the anti-Catholics long to swarm into this thread.
Hey Genius...I am Orthodox Christian. Rome is not my master. The Decrees of the UnDivided Church is what i refer to.
Ignatius was a Bishop. Endowed with the Holy Spirit, He was not inerrant, but he certainly had a closer understanding of the Savior than you or I.
When I say "Holy Mother Church", I refer to the Undivided Church before 1054 AD. But nevertheless, BOTH the Roman Church and the Orthodox Church maintain the sacraments and the unbroken line from Christ to the present.
That is just a crock.
Constantine is and was a Saint.
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