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'Birth pains' have begun (End Days Alert) [Open]
WND ^ | May 16, 2008 | Hal Lindsey

Posted on 05/17/2008 2:52:18 PM PDT by NYer

The world has endured an almost mind-numbing series of shocks in recent weeks, from the unprecedented swarm of tornadoes across the American Midwest to the death and destruction wrought by Cyclone Nargis as it tore a path through Myanmar, better known as Burma.

There were 368 documented tornadoes in the U.S. in January and February of this year, shattering the previous record of 243 over that two-month period, set in 1999. February's total of 232 tornadoes also shattered previous records.

Cyclone Nargis ripped Burma apart, killing at least 128,000, according to Red Cross estimates, and creating some 2.5 million refugees.

Al Gore was quick to blame global warming. In an interview on NPR to plug his appropriately named book on global warming, "Assault on Reason," he told host Terry Gross: "And as we're talking today, Terry, the death count in Myanmar from the cyclone that hit there yesterday has been rising from 15,000 to way on up there to much higher numbers now being speculated. . … And last year a catastrophic storm last fall hit Bangladesh. The year before, the strongest cyclone in more than 50 years hit China – and we're seeing consequences that scientists have long predicted might be associated with continued global warming."

Maybe. But Germany's Institute of Marine Scientists says we're in for a 10-year period of global cooling. There sure seems to be a lot of opposition to what is supposed to be "settled science."

Global warming can't explain away the devastating earthquake that all but flattened a huge portion of western China. The death toll from Monday's quake is approaching 20,000, with twice that number still listed as missing. According to the U.S. Geological Survey, Monday's earthquake was the 25th "significant" earthquake registered so far this year.

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TOPICS: Current Events; General Discusssion; Religion & Science
KEYWORDS: birthpains; birthpangs; burma; endtimes; hallindsey; lastdays; prophecy
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To: SoCalPol
Many folks are so into his type of thinking, one reason they (as so called conservatives)are voting for Obama to fulfil the endtimes.

Oh no, please tell me this isn't true!

41 posted on 05/17/2008 6:45:21 PM PDT by ladyinred
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To: roamer_1
Why did God determine that a flood was necessary in order to set things right? Why destroy all of creation?

[Genesis 6:5-7] And God saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every imagination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually. And it repented the LORD that he had made man on the earth, and it grieved him at his heart. And the LORD said, I will destroy man whom I have created from the face of the earth; both man, and beast, and the creeping thing, and the fowls of the air; for it repenteth me that I have made them.

All of creation wasn't destroyed: [Genesis 6:8] But Noah found grace in the eyes of the LORD.

42 posted on 05/17/2008 6:46:58 PM PDT by Diego1618
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To: Diego1618
All of creation wasn't destroyed: [Genesis 6:8] But Noah found grace in the eyes of the LORD.

But every single thing that drew breath, outside of those upon the ark, was destroyed. A fairly violent form of disagreement, wouldn't you say?

If man was the focus of His ire, why mash it all? why not a lovely little pestilence to kill mankind, but leave the rest? why wreck the place?

43 posted on 05/17/2008 7:04:22 PM PDT by roamer_1 (Globalism is just Socialism in a business suit.)
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To: Diego1618; Jeremiah Jr; bearsgirl90; Lijahsbubbe
Hal sez...

Jesus used a Greek word for the labor pains of a woman about to give birth.

Gen. 25.

24. And when her days to be delivered were fulfilled, behold, there were twins in her womb:
25. And the first came out red, all over like a hairy garment; and they called his name Esau:
26. And after that came his brother out, and his hand took hold on Esau's heel; and his name was called Jacob; and Isaac was sixty years old when she bore them:

So close, and yet...

44 posted on 05/17/2008 7:04:33 PM PDT by Ezekiel
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To: NYer

I actually came on this thread to make a Hal Lindsey joke. It turns out the thread IS a Hal Lindsey joke.

No man knows the day or the hour, but there’s plenty of money in speculating about how it’s all happening SOON!


45 posted on 05/17/2008 7:07:23 PM PDT by Petronski (Scripture & Tradition must be accepted & honored w/equal sentiments of devotion & reverence. CCC 82)
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To: NYer

I’m a disaster prepper of the first order with two years of dried food and a self-contained bugout van prepped and ready to go. But I don’t think the recent series of events meets my threshold. If it did I would be out checking tire pressures as we speak.


46 posted on 05/17/2008 7:10:24 PM PDT by steve86 (Acerbic by nature, not nurture™)
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To: roamer_1
If man was the focus of His ire, why mash it all? why not a lovely little pestilence to kill mankind, but leave the rest? why wreck the place?

[Genesis 1:26] And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.

[Genesis 2:15] And the LORD God took the man, and put him into the garden of Eden to dress it and to keep it.

You ask good questions....and I suppose the answer is: Creation was made for Mankind.... and they were given the stewardship over it. Without Mankind.....there would be no reason for a creation to continue existing.

47 posted on 05/17/2008 7:18:27 PM PDT by Diego1618
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To: Ezekiel
And the first came out red, all over like a hairy garment; and they called his name Esau:

[Genesis 25:23] And the LORD said unto her, Two nations are in thy womb, and two manner of people shall be separated from thy bowels; and the one people shall be stronger than the other people; and the elder shall serve the younger.

I always wondered why this was so hard to understand. Would someone hand them (Muslims) a copy of Genesis? AHHHHH...peace in our time.

48 posted on 05/17/2008 7:31:41 PM PDT by Diego1618
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To: ladyinred

More than a few dim bulbs have posted such.
I wish it were a joke


49 posted on 05/17/2008 7:34:27 PM PDT by SoCalPol (Don't Blame Me - I Supported Duncan Hunter)
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To: Marysecretary
I do believe that end times prophecy lines up with Jewish feasts.

Why?

50 posted on 05/17/2008 7:43:03 PM PDT by Lee N. Field ("Think of it as...an eschatological intrusion." BLAMBLAMBLAMBLAM!! BOOOM!!)
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To: chuckles

Amen chuckles!!!

Jesus is coming very, very soon!

And I’m ready2go :)


51 posted on 05/17/2008 8:14:52 PM PDT by Ready2go (Isa 5:20 Destruction is certain for those who say that evil is good and good is evil;)
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To: Oztrich Boy
2 Peter 3 The Day of the Lord Is Coming

1 This is my second letter to you, dear friends, and in both of them I have tried to stimulate your wholesome thinking and refresh your memory.

2 I want you to remember what the holy prophets said long ago and what our Lord and Savior commanded through your apostles.

3 Most importantly, I want to remind you that in the last days scoffers will come, mocking the truth and following their own desires.

4 They will say, “What happened to the promise that Jesus is coming again? From before the times of our ancestors, everything has remained the same since the world was first created.”

5 They deliberately forget that God made the heavens by the word of his command, and he brought the earth out from the water and surrounded it with water.

6 Then he used the water to destroy the ancient world with a mighty flood.

7 And by the same word, the present heavens and earth have been stored up for fire. They are being kept for the day of judgment, when ungodly people will be destroyed.

8 But you must not forget this one thing, dear friends: A day is like a thousand years to the Lord, and a thousand years is like a day.

9 The Lord isn’t really being slow about his promise, as some people think. No, he is being patient for your sake. He does not want anyone to be destroyed, but wants everyone to repent.

10 But the day of the Lord will come as unexpectedly as a thief. Then the heavens will pass away with a terrible noise, and the very elements themselves will disappear in fire, and the earth and everything on it will be found to deserve judgment.

11 Since everything around us is going to be destroyed like this, what holy and godly lives you should live,

12 looking forward to the day of God and hurrying it along. On that day, he will set the heavens on fire, and the elements will melt away in the flames.

13 But we are looking forward to the new heavens and new earth he has promised, a world filled with God’s righteousness.

14 And so, dear friends, while you are waiting for these things to happen, make every effort to be found living peaceful lives that are pure and blameless in his sight.

15 And remember, the Lord’s patience gives people time to be saved. This is what our beloved brother Paul also wrote to you with the wisdom God gave him—

16 speaking of these things in all of his letters. Some of his comments are hard to understand, and those who are ignorant and unstable have twisted his letters to mean something quite different, just as they do with other parts of Scripture. And this will result in their destruction.

Peter’s Final Words

17 I am warning you ahead of time, dear friends. Be on guard so that you will not be carried away by the errors of these wicked people and lose your own secure footing.

18 Rather, you must grow in the grace and knowledge of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. All glory to him, both now and forever! Amen.

52 posted on 05/17/2008 8:25:28 PM PDT by Ready2go (Isa 5:20 Destruction is certain for those who say that evil is good and good is evil;)
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To: Binghamton_native
Use of the term “Bible thumper” is beneath you.

Obviously you erred in your judgement...

53 posted on 05/17/2008 8:34:10 PM PDT by Iscool
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To: Lee N. Field

Well, we’ve had a bible study regarding end times, and I’ve also heard it on the radio. Perhaps Xenia would know more about that.


54 posted on 05/17/2008 8:55:26 PM PDT by Marysecretary (.GOD IS STILL IN CONTROL)
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To: Lee N. Field

See post 39.


55 posted on 05/17/2008 8:56:04 PM PDT by Marysecretary (.GOD IS STILL IN CONTROL)
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To: chuckles

Interesting. I’m not sure it will be this year, but probably in our lifetime. Of course, I’m OLD so my lifetime is shorter perhaps than yours, LOL. Let’s hope we’re all ready, no matter when it happens.


56 posted on 05/17/2008 8:58:10 PM PDT by Marysecretary (.GOD IS STILL IN CONTROL)
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To: indylindy

I believe that too. Only thing we CAN do to prepare is to press into God, His Word, do what he commands us to do. I won’t say I’m not a bit scared but mostly for unsaved family members. Part of the grave times is weather related, I’m sure, and part of it could be nuclear bombs going off in targeted cities.


57 posted on 05/17/2008 9:00:12 PM PDT by Marysecretary (.GOD IS STILL IN CONTROL)
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To: Diego1618; coffee260
[...] Without Mankind.....there would be no reason for a creation to continue existing.

Gen 7:21 And all flesh died that moved upon the earth, both of fowl, and of cattle, and of beast, and of every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth, and every man:
Gen 7:22 All in whose nostrils was the breath of life, of all that was in the dry land, died.
Gen 7:23 And every living substance was destroyed which was upon the face of the ground, both man, and cattle, and the creeping things, and the fowl of the heaven; and they were destroyed from the earth: and Noah only remained alive, and they that were with him in the ark.
Gen 7:24 And the waters prevailed upon the earth a hundred and fifty days.
(e-Sword: KJV)
Yet he did preserve a remnant, didn't He? Not only of man, but of every other kind aboard the ark... So His intention was clear- He intended to preserve it, yet he still nuked the joint anyway. What gives?


Gen 6:11 The earth also was corrupt before God, and the earth was filled with violence.
Gen 6:12 And God looked upon the earth, and, behold, it was corrupt; for all flesh had corrupted his way upon the earth.
Gen 6:13 And God said unto Noah, The end of all flesh is come before me; for the earth is filled with violence through them; and, behold, I will destroy them with the earth.
(e-Sword: KJV)

The corruption of ALL flesh was wrought by man, and the Nephilim who taught him.

Jesus said ‘As it was in the days of Noah, so shall it be in the coming of the Son of Man.’

There has always been violence, and there has always been evil, and man has corrupted himself throughout history, but never, since Noah, has man possessed the ability to corrupt all flesh. Genetics.

58 posted on 05/17/2008 9:04:50 PM PDT by roamer_1 (Globalism is just Socialism in a business suit.)
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To: 21twelve; Marysecretary
There are seven YHvH commanded Feast Days

Yah'shua re-celebrated Passover where
he lead the "Last supper" (Pesach Seder)
with the bread and wine of the Passover seder.

He died on the the Feast of Unleavened Bread
where all "sin" (leaven) was removed.

He rose from the dead on the Feast of First Fruits,
where the best is offered to Elohim.

The Ru'ach HaKodesh( Holy Spirit) breathed on the
apostles on the Feast of Shavuot (pentecost).

The next Feast to be re-celebrated will be the Feast of Trumpets.

shalom b'SHEM Yah'shua HaMashiach Adonai

59 posted on 05/17/2008 9:07:16 PM PDT by Uri’el-2012 (you shall know that I, YHvH, your Savior, and your Redeemer, am the Elohim of Ya'aqob. Isaiah 60:16)
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To: XeniaSt

Thanks, Xenia.


60 posted on 05/17/2008 9:10:18 PM PDT by Marysecretary (.GOD IS STILL IN CONTROL)
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