Posted on 09/14/2014 12:07:39 PM PDT by Gamecock
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There’s no taboo and people “living together” are routinely married everywhere (probably in every church). In the Catholic Church, when they go to prepare for marriage, they are told to live apart until they marry.
I assume the same was the case for these people.
You might like to know that a huge number of early American (mostly Protestant) marriages post-dated the birth of the first child.
These people are just making it right. What’s bad about that?
The formal annulment process is often corrupt and unfair.
The “internal forum” SHOULD have the support of the Pope. There are circumstances such as alcoholism, drug abuse, mental illness and the like, where a formal annulment process only serves to “stir the pot” with unstable people involved. It can cause turmoil and abuse and even death.
There are some self righteous jerks on these Freeper threads who have argued these points with me before. It is my sincere hope that the Pope soon puts the falsely pious in their places!
It would take a powerful lot of arguing for Comrade Fran to put me “in my place.”
Looking at the actual account it looks like there isn’t any actual Christian controversy mentioned here. It’s a matter of criticism from people who either want to be more Catholic than the pope or more biblical than the bible.
He did this with no instruction with regard to Catholic marriage, at all? And how many of these were non-Catholics?
I smell a an ecclesiastical rat, and wow!, does it ever stink.
I grant you that the Pope is a fool on economic matters.
However? The Pope is right on divorce and marriage issues.
Priests have always been marrying couples who were living in sin. And there were plenty back in colonial times, too.
By your reasoning a widow with children can’t remarry in the church? Ridiculous.
So what??
I’m a single mother who was a cradle Catholic but was away from the church for many years. Now that I know my faith & understand why it teaches what it does, I’m back 100%. My boyfriend and soon-to-be fiancé is in a similar situation. He strayed from the church, married a Catholic hater, ended up divorced after 18 months and is not the father of my child. But we now are together, partake in the sacraments, and are talking about getting engaged very soon. We do not live together & abide by church teachings
So again I ask you, so what??
Wouldn’t they simply have to make a confession, do their penance and ask would be right?
I agree with you.
It is my understanding regarding Cann. 1055-1165, an invalid marriage is null ab initio. The formal annulment process merely provides a canonical certification of such nullity.
So if a previous marriage is null ab initio, why must, in every case, a lack of certification thereto impede the valid marriage covenant?
Incidentally, there is no such “taboo.”
Exactly!
And very well put I might add!
Those who think the formal annulment process is the ONLY valid solution to remarriage in the Church also avoid the embarrassing facts:
Nearly everyone knows what they need to say in a formal annulment:
I was still seeing others up to the time we married.
I was immature and did not really mean it or understand it.
I married to get my parents off my back.
I married to move out of an unstable home.
I married for the economic benefits.
ETC!
And if a divorced couple CONSPIRE TO LIE during the formal annulment process? The self righteous seem to have no problem with that common practice at all do they?
Because the annulment process provides an objective judgment.
Of course the “self-righteous” (whoever they are) have a problem with lying.
If a couple actually conspires to obtain a decree of nullity by lying, then they are culpable. Any attempted subsequent “marriage” will be adultery, though they might carry the secret to their graves.
The liberal media and the vast majority of Catholic bashers on FR have no idea what goes into a Catholic marriage.
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