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Our Lady of Fatima – Her Prophecies and Warnings Remain as Essential as Ever!
Archdiocese of Washington ^ | 10-12-15 | Msgr. Charles Pope

Posted on 10/13/2015 8:08:21 AM PDT by Salvation

Our Lady of Fatima – Her Prophecies and Warnings Remain as Essential as Ever!

October 12, 2015

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This week on October 13 and 14th I am in Fatima. Such a profound apparition occurred there, and so accurately prophetic of our times!

Our Lady’s warnings of the consequences if we did not pray and convert have proven to be sadly accurate. She warned of another, more terrible war (World War II). She spoke of great lights in the sky that would serve as a final warning before the terrible war. (They appeared all over Europe just before Hitler invaded Poland, in the form of a stunning display of the Aurora Borealis.) She said that Russia would spread her errors, that the Church would have much to suffer, and she warned of a pope who would be struck down.

A final and belated prophecy from Fatima seems to have come in the form of a letter written by Sister Lucia to Cardinal Carlo Caffara. He had written to her asking for her prayers as he had been commissioned by Pope John Paul II to establish the Pontifical Institute for the Studies on Marriage and the Family. The year was 1981. According to Cardinal Caffara, she wrote back with the following:

[T]he final battle between the Lord and the reign of Satan will be about marriage and the family. Don’t be afraid, she added, because anyone who operates for the sanctity of marriage and the family will always be contended and opposed in every way, because this is the decisive issue. And then she concluded: however, Our Lady has already crushed its head. [*]

Thus, from Fatima comes one accurate prophecy after another. Here we are today, locked in a terrible battle over the most basic units of any civilization: families and the marriages that form them. Fatima, the great prophecy of our time and a summons to sobriety and prayer!

Something else that has always intrigued me about Fatima is the name of the town itself. Fatima is a town bearing the name of the daughter of Mohammed; this is so stunning! Why of all places would Mary appear there? Is it just coincidence? If you think so, you have not pondered that everything about the apparition of Fatima is prophetic.

The great Archbishop Fulton Sheen, in his book The World’s First Love, reflected on its significance and posed a few questions. Please note that the book was written in 1952 and therefore some of the spellings are not the modern ones. Here are some excerpts:

The Koran, which is the Bible of the Moslems, has many passages concerning the Blessed Virgin. First of all, the Koran believes in her Immaculate Conception, and also, in her Virgin Birth … The Koran also has verses on the Annunciation, Visitation, and Nativity. Angels are pictured as accompanying the Blessed Mother and saying, Oh Mary, God has chosen you and purified you, and elected you above all the women of the earth. In the 19th chapter of the Koran there are 41 verses on Jesus and Mary. There is such a strong defense of the virginity of Mary here that the Koran in the fourth book, attributes the condemnation of the Jews to their monstrous calumny against the Virgin Mary.

Mary, then, is for the Moslems the true Sayyida, or Lady. The only possible serious rival to her in their creed would be Fatima, the daughter of Mohammed himself. But after the death of Fatima, Mohammed wrote: Thou shalt be the most blessed of women in Paradise, after Mary. In a variant of the text Fatima is made to say; I surpass all the women, except Mary.

This brings us to our second point; namely, why the Blessed Mother, in this 20th Century should have revealed herself in the significant little village of Fatima, so that to all future generations she would be known as “Our Lady of Fatima.” Since nothing ever happens out of Heaven except with a finesse of all details, I believe that the Blessed Virgin chose to be known as “Our Lady of Fatima” as pledge and a sign of hope to the Moslem people, and as an assurance that they, who show her so much respect, will one day accept her divine Son too.

Evidence to support these views is found in the historical fact that the Moslems occupied Portugal for centuries. At the time when they were finally driven out, the last Moslem chief had a beautiful daughter by the name of Fatima. A Catholic boy fell in love with her, and for him she not only stayed behind when the Moslems left, but even embraced the Faith. The young husband was so much in love with her that he changed the name of the town where he lived to Fatima. Thus the very place where our Lady appeared in 1917 bears a historical connection to Fatima, the daughter of Mohammed.

Missionaries, in the future will, more and more, see that their apostolate among the Moslems will be successful in the measure that they preach Our Lady of Fatima. Mary is the advent of Christ, bringing Christ to the people before Christ himself is born. In any apologetic endeavor, it is always best to start with that which the people already accept. Because the Moslems have devotion to Mary, our missionaries should be satisfied merely to expand and develop that devotion, with the full realization that our Blessed Lady will carry the Moslems the rest of the way to her divine Son. She is forever a “traitor,” in the sense that she will not accept any devotion for herself, bit will always bring anyone who is devoted to her to her divine Son.

A beautiful reflection by Archbishop Sheen and one we can surely hope will come to pass! Relations are much tenser between Christians and Muslims today than in 1952. But Fatima is the apparition that just keeps prophesying.

It is nothing less than astonishing that Mary should appear in a town with the name of Fatima. Surely this is no mere coincidence. As Sheen points out, Heaven does nothing without purpose. It is very clear to me that we are not to pass over this detail. “Our Lady of Fatima” has a different ring to it when we consider that Fatima is more than a place; Fatima is the daughter of Muhammad and the greatest woman in Islam. “Our Lady of Fatima” sounds and feels so different when it is heard in this context of person rather than place. It is hugely significant.

It seems clear that Mary will play an important role in the years ahead as the Muslim/Christian conflict likely grows sharper. Perhaps, as Sheen notes, she will be the bridge that connects two vastly different cultures; the common mother who keeps her children talking. Right now this connection seems little pursued, even (as far as I can tell) by the Vatican.

The Guadalupe connection – I wonder, too, if the history of Our Lady of Guadalupe presents some historical parallels to our current struggle with the Muslim world. In the early 16th Century in Mexico, missionaries had made only meager progress in bringing the Aztec people to Christ. This was a combination of the sometimes rude and cruel treatment of the indigenous people by the Spanish soldiers, and also of the fearful superstition surrounding the Aztec gods. The people were locked in with the fear that unless they fed these gods with horrific human sacrifices, their greatest god, the sun, would no longer shine.

Into this fearful and suspicious setting entered Mother Mary. The miraculous image she left in 1531 was richly symbolic. Her face is that of a mother: gentle and compassionate, unlike the appearance of the frightening Aztec gods, who wore fierce masks. Her features seem to be both Aztec and European, two cultures combined in kindness and peace. Her attitude is one of humble prayer, so she is clearly not a god(dess). She is a merciful mother who consoles and prays for us. She is to be honored but not adored. The black band around her waist means that she is with child and offers Jesus to the people. Her message is about Him. The sun was the greatest of the Aztec gods, so by standing in front of it, Mary shows that she is greater than even their greatest god. To the Aztecs, the moon represented the god of darkness and death. That Mary is standing on the moon is a sign that these powers, too, are defeated by the Son she bears.

Mary brought the breakthrough. Within ten years, over twelve million Mexicans came to Christ and entered the Catholic Church.

This history is paralleled in many ways today in the current tensions with the Muslim World. In many Muslim lands today, conversions are few. Part of the reason for this is a strong aversion to the Western culture from which Catholicism comes. Many Muslims also hold grievances due to alleged American and Western “mistreatment.” Finally, a large factor is fear. In many parts of the Muslim world, leaving the Muslim faith is likely to get one killed. So, it is a combination of a wide cultural gulf, grievances, and fear that keep conversions low. All of this is not unlike the situation in 16th century Mexico.

Is Mary key to this? It took Mary to bridge all these similar gaps between the Aztecs and the Christian missionaries. Might Mary also be that bridge today when similar gaps divide people? Time will tell, but one of her greatest modern titles is “Our Lady of Fatima.” And then there is the crescent moon, upon which Mary stands in the image of Guadalupe. In modern times the crescent moon is the symbol of Islam. By God’s grace, and with love and humility, Mother Mary of Guadalupe was victorious in overcoming the false religion of the Aztecs.

Might this crescent moon on which Our Lady of Guadalupe stands also point to our times and the crescent moon of Islam? Might it indicate that her victories, by God’s grace, are not at an end? Perhaps we can hope that what our Lady of Guadalupe was to the Aztec people of Mexico, Our Lady of Fatima will be to the Muslim people of the world.

As always, I invite your comments and answers to my questions.

Here is “Immaculate Mary,” sung in Arabic:


TOPICS: Apologetics; Catholic; History; Theology
KEYWORDS: archbishopsheen; blessedvirginmary; catholic; fatima; msgrcharlespope; ourladyoffatima; prophecies; warnings
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To: MHGinTN

To state what someone believes is not the same as believing it.

You wrote: “Mo-ham-head claimed the angel Gabriel spoke to him...” Based on this claim, Islam traces its origin to the God of Abraham.

I do not believe that the angel Gabriel spoke to Muhammad. Neither do I believe that Islam originated with the God of Abraham.

It is what they believe; I don’t agree with it.


361 posted on 10/17/2015 3:01:01 AM PDT by rwa265 (This is my commandment, That ye love one another, as I have loved you. John 15:12)
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To: rwa265

Mormons claim to believe in the God of Abraham ... and believe he was once a man and became exalted to current godhood as they also can be promoted. Would you agree that they actually believe in the same God of Judaism/Christianity?


362 posted on 10/17/2015 6:45:14 AM PDT by MHGinTN (Is it really all relative, Mister Einstein?)
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To: Legatus
  1. If I understand correctly you're basing your defense of CCC 841 on islamic belief in the God of Abraham. In other words; they say they worship the God of Abraham, we do worship the God of Abraham, therefore we're worshiping the same God.
  2. Islam is a mixture of Christian heresy and paganism. I think that our non-Catholic brethren here are firmly convinced that there's too much paganism in the heresy for their god to be God. I agree with them.
  3. I realize I'm going out on a limb in disagreeing with the CCC but our differences with islam go beyond whether mohammed was a prophet (we all agree he wasn't). Islam and Christendom disagree on the very nature of God Himself.
  4. I think the argument that tries to include islam in the family of Abrahamic religion misses the point that the Hebrew religion is not a man-made religion, it is founded by God. Islam was not. That alone should have been the red flag that Cardinal Schönborn apparently missed when he was compiling and editing the CCC for pope St. JPII.
    Islam is not mentioned. "The Church's relationship with the Muslims. "The plan of salvation also includes those who acknowledge the Creator, in the first place amongst whom are the Muslims; these profess to hold the faith of Abraham, and together with us they adore the one, merciful God, mankind's judge on the last day."330"
  1. Some were/are confused by CCC 839-841 and I tried to help them get past the stumbling blocks. CCC 841 is not about Islam; it is about Moslems. Can you see the difference ? CCC 841 mentions the people, the profession to hold the faith of Abraham, but there is no endorsement from God on their religion, as you see for the Jews.
  2. The stumbling block I see is thinking about Islam rather than the Moslems. The CCC does not mention Islam.
  3. Which is probably why Islam is not mentioned but the Moslems are
  4. That key distinction is right in the text, and this is where the Catechism differentiates, not only the Jewish faith from the other religion that is not named, but from all other religions so that Catholics see the Jews as intrinsically related to us, elder brethren as it were.
    "Those who have not yet received the Gospel are related to the People of God in various ways."325 The relationship of the Church with the Jewish People. When she delves into her own mystery, the Church, the People of God in the New Covenant, discovers her link with the Jewish People,326 "the first to hear the Word of God."327 The Jewish faith, unlike other non-Christian religions, is already a response to God's revelation in the Old Covenant. To the Jews "belong the sonship, the glory, the covenants, the giving of the law, the worship, and the promises; to them belong the patriarchs, and of their race, according to the flesh, is the Christ",328 "for the gifts and the call of God are irrevocable."329

And to sum it all up :

842 The Church's bond with non-Christian religions is in the first place the common origin and end of the human race: All nations form but one community. This is so because all stem from the one stock which God created to people the entire earth, and also because all share a common destiny, namely God. His providence, evident goodness, and saving designs extend to all against the day when the elect are gathered together in the holy city. . .331 843 The Catholic Church recognizes in other religions that search, among shadows and images, for the God who is unknown yet near since he gives life and breath and all things and wants all men to be saved. Thus, the Church considers all goodness and truth found in these religions as "a preparation for the Gospel and given by him who enlightens all men that they may at length have life."332 844 In their religious behavior, however, men also display the limits and errors that disfigure the image of God in them: Very often, deceived by the Evil One, men have become vain in their reasonings, and have exchanged the truth of God for a lie, and served the creature rather than the Creator. Or else, living and dying in this world without God, they are exposed to ultimate despair.333 845 To reunite all his children, scattered and led astray by sin, the Father willed to call the whole of humanity together into his Son's Church. The Church is the place where humanity must rediscover its unity and salvation. The Church is "the world reconciled." She is that bark which "in the full sail of the Lord's cross, by the breath of the Holy Spirit, navigates safely in this world." According to another image dear to the Church Fathers, she is prefigured by Noah's ark, which alone saves from the flood.334

363 posted on 10/17/2015 7:04:52 AM PDT by af_vet_1981 (The bus came by and I got on, That's when it all began.)
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To: Mark17

Now compare what Catholics have called us in the past. Someone needs to get off their high horse to be sure.


364 posted on 10/17/2015 7:17:56 AM PDT by ealgeone
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To: af_vet_1981
Is not a Muslim a follower of Islam?

Face it dude, you cannot defend what the ccc has written on this.

As I said earlier you're attempt at parsing words is clintonian.

365 posted on 10/17/2015 7:25:22 AM PDT by ealgeone
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To: af_vet_1981
CCC 841 mentions the people, the profession to hold the faith of Abraham, but there is no endorsement from God on their religion, as you see for the Jews.

That seems like a stretch. It's like when anti-Catholics slam the Church and cover by saying "Oh, I don't hate Catholics, I hate Catholicism".

366 posted on 10/17/2015 7:29:58 AM PDT by Legatus (I think, therefore you're out of your mind)
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To: af_vet_1981

Thank you for your efforts in clarifying CCC 839-841. It has added to my understanding of what the writers of the Catechism intended.

Peace,
Rich


367 posted on 10/17/2015 8:12:28 AM PDT by rwa265 (This is my commandment, That ye love one another, as I have loved you. John 15:12)
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To: rwa265
LOL So this is how catholics sustain their magic thinking!
368 posted on 10/17/2015 8:30:48 AM PDT by MHGinTN (Is it really all relative, Mister Einstein?)
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To: MHGinTN

Don’t look at me.


369 posted on 10/17/2015 8:47:42 AM PDT by Legatus (I think, therefore you're out of your mind)
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To: Legatus
That seems like a stretch. It's like when anti-Catholics slam the Church and cover by saying "Oh, I don't hate Catholics, I hate Catholicism".
  1. It would have been easy to add the word "religion" to CCC 841 if Islam were the subject.
  2. Do you deny that the Samaritans profess/professed to worship and adore the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob as Jews, Catholics, and separated brethren also profess to do ?
  3. How many different Gods of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob do you posit ?
  4. Do you mean the antiCatholics are lying to themselves, us, and God when they write that ?
  5. Do you think the antiCatholics profess to worship and adore a different God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob than Catholics and Jews ?
  6. One can see in this thread how the Samaritans were hated and yet I do not know if it was expressed as hating Samaritanism as a cloak.

370 posted on 10/17/2015 9:13:16 AM PDT by af_vet_1981 (The bus came by and I got on, That's when it all began.)
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To: MHGinTN

Did I not once thank you for adding to my understanding of the message of Paul? If I remember correctly, it was in reference to Romans 7 and 8.


371 posted on 10/17/2015 9:20:28 AM PDT by rwa265 (This is my commandment, That ye love one another, as I have loved you. John 15:12)
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To: rwa265

I couldn’t tell you, since I do not gunny-sack praise or scorn. I’m too old to be edified by either.


372 posted on 10/17/2015 9:24:47 AM PDT by MHGinTN (Is it really all relative, Mister Einstein?)
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To: ealgeone
Is not a Muslim a follower of Islam?

Anyone born of a Muslim father, or who ever once says the shehada prayer, under threat or duress notwithstanding, including Protestants like you is considered a Moslem in the Moslem world. Their levels of assent and observance are imposed and vary.

Face it dude, you cannot defend what the ccc has written on this.

And yet I have. Do you hate Moslems more than Jews that you accept CCC839-840 and stumble over CCC 841 ? As I said earlier you're attempt at parsing words is clintonian.

Do you mean this as a synonym for lying ? Does your faith have a form of taqqiyah where it is acceptable to bear false witness when asked ?

373 posted on 10/17/2015 9:29:14 AM PDT by af_vet_1981 (The bus came by and I got on, That's when it all began.)
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To: af_vet_1981
You wrote: Islam is not mentioned. "The Church's relationship with the Muslims.

This is where you went clintonian.

Muslims are those who follow Islam. It doesn't matter if Islam is not mentioned as that is the religion being discussed is you're noting Muslims.

374 posted on 10/17/2015 9:39:59 AM PDT by ealgeone
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To: Legatus
going out on a limb in disagreeing with the CCC but our differences with islam go beyond whether mohammed was a prophet (we all agree he wasn't). Islam and Christendom disagree on the very

CCC841 is not about Islam, read it again. It is about nonChristians, other than the Jews, who look to the one Creator, the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacov. The Moslems, who comprise one fourth of the human beings on this planet, are chief (most numerous/prominent) among this classification. They, like Samaritans, call upon the Gid of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, accept the Bible as holy, honor all the Patriarchs and Matriarchs, do not insult blessed Mary, call Jesus a holy prophet, messenger, and "the Messiah." However, they are nonChristian.

375 posted on 10/17/2015 9:42:21 AM PDT by af_vet_1981 (The bus came by and I got on, That's when it all began.)
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To: ealgeone
You wrote: Islam is not mentioned. "The Church's relationship with the Muslims.
This is where you went clintonian.
  1. Do you intend the expression went clintonian as a synonym for lying ?
  2. Do you have a personal relationship with Jesus or would you deny him ? Thrice ?

376 posted on 10/17/2015 9:47:30 AM PDT by af_vet_1981 (The bus came by and I got on, That's when it all began.)
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To: af_vet_1981
Face it af....you tried a little slight of hand with your definitions and now you've been busted and you're trying to deflect.

I think you're attempts have been exposed enough.

As always, it's a learning experience with you.

Have a good day.

And yes, I do follow Christ....do you??

377 posted on 10/17/2015 9:53:32 AM PDT by ealgeone
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To: ealgeone; af_vet_1981
I'm with ealgeone on this question. Muslims are islam, Catholics are Catholicism, Protestants are Protestantism. Take away the people and the subject becomes academic.

CCC843 says "The Catholic Church recognizes in other religions". There is no switching of gears as if we're going from talking about a people and now religions.

BTW, while we're at it, this heading is CCC839 "Those who have not yet received the Gospel are related to the People of God in various ways." The Jews HAVE received the Gospel, for the most part they've rejected it. This whole section needs a traditional rewrite. Precision doesn't seem to be high on the list of goals this time around.

378 posted on 10/17/2015 9:54:30 AM PDT by Legatus (I think, therefore you're out of your mind)
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To: af_vet_1981
They, like Samaritans, call upon the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, accept the Bible as holy, honor all the Patriarchs and Matriarchs, do not insult blessed Mary, call Jesus a holy prophet, messenger, and "the Messiah." However, they are nonChristian.
379 posted on 10/17/2015 9:55:21 AM PDT by af_vet_1981 (The bus came by and I got on, That's when it all began.)
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To: MHGinTN

I do not remember the details. What I do remember is that your post opened me to a new understanding of Paul’s message in Romans 8:1-2. If I did not thank you then, I do now.


380 posted on 10/17/2015 9:59:21 AM PDT by rwa265 (This is my commandment, That ye love one another, as I have loved you. John 15:12)
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