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  • Perdue grabs surprise runoff victory over Kingston in Georgia

    07/23/2014 12:06:24 PM PDT · 59 of 66
    Norseman to Carry_Okie

    If you follow the links on the article all the way back to the description of his meeting with the chamber you’ll find that he supposedly told the Chamber during that shortened meeting something like “I’m the guy you’ve been waiting for for 20 years.”

    When they didn’t immediately come through, he walked out.

    Then he turned the walk-out into a campaign strategy.

    Smart politician, for sure, but where he stands is up in the air if you’re down on the Chamber of Commerce, I guess.

    For myself, I’m not staying home in November if my candidate is endorsed by the Chamber of Commerce because the Left sn’t going to stay home even if their candidates are endorsed by the Communist Party. There is quite a difference in those two endorsements.

  • Family Asked To Leave Southwest Flight After Tweet

    07/23/2014 11:39:26 AM PDT · 51 of 59
    Norseman to bgill

    >> I do NOT board without my children. Period. End of discussion.<<

    So, your options would be:

    1) Stand there insisting upon special treatment making an ass out of yourself, or

    2) Wait and board when your children were entitled to board.

    And you would choose which option?

    We know which one he chose.

  • Family Asked To Leave Southwest Flight After Tweet

    07/23/2014 11:36:45 AM PDT · 49 of 59
    Norseman to ItsOurTimeNow

    The guy was probably being a class-A jerk while demanding privileges he wasn’t entitled to. It would be interesting to see a video of the original encounter.

    Then to threaten a “tweet”. What a dweeb. His kids, particularly the 9-year-old, were probably embarrassed by his actions. Some example he set for them.

    Waiters probably spit in his soup on a regular basis, I’m betting.

    And until we really know how big an ass he really was, we can’t really know whether the gate attendant over-reacted. By then she might have even been questioning whether it was safe to leave him on the plane given his mood and behavior.

    This started with him demanding special treatment and not graciously taking no for an answer. It’s all on him. Every bit of it.

  • Boehner: House Has No Plans to Defund Unconstitutional Acts by Obama

    07/22/2014 10:15:56 AM PDT · 106 of 107
    Norseman to aquila48

    >>... it might be tough because Obama could veto the bill, and shut down the government and blame the republicans.<<

    That’s exactly why the House and Senate should revert to the normal process of passing separate budget bills for each department, and even, I would argue, separate line items within many departments.

    That way, they could send up appropriation bills that the vast majority of the country support, say Social Security appropriations, for example, so that even if Obama vetoed, the Dems in House and Senate would have difficulty supporting the veto.

  • Halbig v. Burwell Would Free More Than 57 Million From The ACA's Individual & Employer Mandates

    07/21/2014 1:59:03 PM PDT · 8 of 8
    Norseman to 2ndDivisionVet

    It’s an interesting article, especially since it illustrates that the winners vastly outnumber the losers if the court rules against the administration.

    At the end of the article it’s also pointed out that those states that did as the Dems wanted and opened state exchanges will come under intense pressure from their constituents to join the other 34 states by dropping their own exchanges. That would free their constituents from being subject to the mandates and tax penalties they alone would be subject to if the decision goes against the administration.

    And that could spell the end of Obamacare, as written.

  • Boehner: House Has No Plans to Defund Unconstitutional Acts by Obama

    07/21/2014 1:47:46 PM PDT · 71 of 107
    Norseman to Graewoulf

    Yes, and do you remember the beating that the GOP was taking in the polls during the shutdown. Besides, the GOP got something out of it, the sequester, and federal spending finally started to drop relative to revenues for a change, so it wasn’t a complete capitulation.

  • Boehner: House Has No Plans to Defund Unconstitutional Acts by Obama

    07/21/2014 1:45:39 PM PDT · 68 of 107
    Norseman to GeronL

    >>I think spending bills originate in the House, although that was back when we used the Constitution<<

    Article 7: All Bills for raising Revenue shall originate in the House of Representatives;

    Budgets are about spending the money available. As long as raising new taxes aren’t involved, I believe the Senate can originate a budget bill. Not that any of this matters. Clearly both houses of Congress have to agree in the end if any bill is to pass, regardless where it originates.

  • Boehner: House Has No Plans to Defund Unconstitutional Acts by Obama

    07/21/2014 1:29:17 PM PDT · 63 of 107
    Norseman to kjam22

    The issue isn’t new funding; it’s budgeting and how to spend funds that are already being raised. I believe the Senate can originate a budget bill, as long as it doesn’t include raising taxes.

    Regardless, the budget has already been approved past the November election, so all of this is moot for now and instead of worrying about what we could do while Reid owns the Senate, it makes more sense to discuss what the GOP should do if they hold both houses of Congress in January. (Hint: First, the Senate should jettison the filibuster rule, following Reid’s lead.)

    That said, if the Senate is still in Reid’s hands then, it’s the “etc.” after “Obammy” in your statement that’s the problem. That “etc.” includes everything else in the federal budget, and not funding it seems to create more problems for the GOP than for Obama. At least that’s been the case thus far.

  • Boehner: House Has No Plans to Defund Unconstitutional Acts by Obama

    07/21/2014 1:22:14 PM PDT · 60 of 107
    Norseman to aquila48

    >>When you boil it down to its essence, the so called “power of the purse” reduces to “government shutdown” given the current makeup of the three branches of government.<<

    Finally, a voice of reason. Thank you.

    The power of the purse will come heavily into play if the GOP takes the Senate in November, provided McConnell drops the current filibuster rule entirely, an action that should be easy to take now that Reid has dropped it unilaterally for approving presidential appointments.

    Besides, this whole issue is moot until after the election anyway, since the current Continuing Resolution will fund the government past that date.

  • Question for Boehner: Will you use the power of the purse to stop Obama’s executive power grabs?

    07/21/2014 1:09:50 PM PDT · 54 of 55
    Norseman to Starboard

    >>I think Reagan set a fine example of how to score points and win. The GOP needs to follow his example.<<

    While I agree that it would be nice to win a few in the House, playing the “power of the purse” game seemed to backfire on the GOP. Recall the beating the party took in polling during the last shutdown, even as Obama kept people out of national parks. The media is a tough opponent when it’s so soundly on the side of the opposition.

    I think the game changes completely if Reid no longer controls the Senate’s agenda in 2015. The GOP will be able to send up individual funding bills that are overwhelmingly approved by the voters and it will be almost impossible for Obama to veto them and still claim it’s the GOP shutting down the government. And even if he does, Dem Senators up for re-election will almost be forced to vote to override early vetoes.

    As for Reagan, I think there are some parallels to the current situation. Reagan wasn’t loved by the establishment; he had to fight for the nomination and he based his fight on conservative (actually, old-time liberal) principles of individual freedoms and responsibilities, coupled with a warning about big government run amuck. Once he secured the nomination he didn’t have to change his message (unlike Romney, for example, who first felt he had to tack right, then back left during the general election). Reagan just kept campaigning on the same principles because they resonate with all but devout leftists and he won.

    I think that’s what’s now happening with respectable tea party supported candidates finally rising to the top of the candidate pool. If one of them wins the nominations he or she will be able to campaign in the general on the same principles. And if successful, a lot will begin to happen, starting with reversing most of Obama’s inane policies and replacing them with policies that emphasize personal responsibility and individual liberty while warning about the dangers of big government.

    The recent poll (Pew, I believe) was illuminating in that regard. Younger voters are now primed for just such an appeal by the GOP, whether they realize it yet or not.

  • Now IRS Reports EVEN MORE Computer Crashes, Doesn’t Know If Emails Still Exist

    07/21/2014 10:31:55 AM PDT · 20 of 39
    Norseman to Red Badger

    This is good news. The more people involved, the more likely it will be that Issa will find one who refuses to lie under oath.

    Furthermore, the more crashes there are, the less people will be willing to accept anything the administration says about the IRS matter.

  • Now IRS Reports EVEN MORE Computer Crashes, Doesn’t Know If Emails Still Exist

    07/21/2014 10:30:33 AM PDT · 4 of 36
    Norseman to cotton1706

    This is good news. The more people involved, the more likely it will be that Issa will find one who refuses to lie under oath.

    Furthermore, the more crashes there are, the less people will be willing to accept anything the administration says about the IRS matter.

  • Question for Boehner: Will you use the power of the purse to stop Obama’s executive power grabs?

    07/20/2014 12:15:56 PM PDT · 52 of 55
    Norseman to Starboard

    >>The Republican “leadership” is long on talk but very short on action.<<

    While I know what you mean by that cliche, and it sounds reasonable, I disagree with it being applied in these circumstances.

    I think the GOP leadership, particularly McConnell and Boehner, are really lacking in the “talk” department. Because of that it’s fallen to people like Cruz, Rubio, and Rand Paul to make the case for GOP principles, principles that I consider the same as tea party principles, which is why there isn’t a splintered Tea Party like there was a Ross Perot movement in the 90’s.

    The problem with taking action is that there isn’t much that can actually be done until the GOP takes the Senate, and/or the Presidency, other than investigate the obvious scandals of this administration. Which means that the best weapon is talk, i.e., attempting to convince the public that the nation is on the wrong trajectory. As hard as that is to do with the MSM firmly aligned with the Left, it’s much harder when your two most powerful leaders are such marginal speakers.

    I’m convinced, for instance, that without his stellar speaking ability we’d never have had a President Obama. His voice and manner of speaking was a key part of getting the job, just as Clinton’s is a key part of the hold he has over much of the American public. Boehner and McConnell don’t have that in them, unfortunately, nor, by the way, did Dole, McCain, or Romney.

  • Question for Boehner: Will you use the power of the purse to stop Obama’s executive power grabs?

    07/20/2014 8:54:35 AM PDT · 44 of 55
    Norseman to jjotto

    >>The question being clarified is whether the House can act unilaterally. It can’t as regards spending, which is contrary to what the author of the article seems to imply.<<

    But the House can act unilaterally in the sense the author of the article proposes. If they don’t pass a spending bill, the government shuts down. However, the House did pass such a bill, and the current CR now extends past the election, so the only sensible discussion of his proposal would assume a post-election scenario, which is what I did.

    He also stated: “Boehner seems … chilly to that idea. Any theories why? Anyone want to hazard a guess as to why, four months before an election, he doesn’t want to commit to a new, protracted government shutdown..”

    In stating that, he was apparently unaware that a budget has already been passed. As for the guess on a theory as to why Boehner doesn’t want to risk a shutdown, the answer is two-part: 1) He can’t; the budget is already in effect, and 2) We’ve seen how the GOP gets beat up when they threaten a shutdown under current circumstances. At least the last time around they got the sequester, but only by being willing to temporarily gut the military budget. (At least I hope it’s temporary.)

  • Question for Boehner: Will you use the power of the purse to stop Obama’s executive power grabs?

    07/20/2014 8:45:55 AM PDT · 41 of 55
    Norseman to Vermont Lt

    >>Nothing will get done until after January. And even then Obama will just veto everything that comes his way.<<

    I know people in here have a pretty low opinion of Representative Boehner and Senator McConnell, but one thing they do have is a good grasp of the mechanics of their offices.

    As I said in the extended post above, it will be possible to structure spending bills in such a way that it will put both President Obama and Congressional Democrats in a very uncomfortable position should he consider vetoing them. And with control of both the House and Senate, they could do it.

    With one caveat: The Senate GOP should follow Reid’s lead and scrap the current filibuster rule altogether. Australia just dropped its carbon tax, a tremendous turnaround of policy, but only 55% of its Senate voted to do so. If they’d have had our Senate filibuster policy, the turnaround wouldn’t have been possible.

  • Question for Boehner: Will you use the power of the purse to stop Obama’s executive power grabs?

    07/20/2014 8:37:23 AM PDT · 37 of 55
    Norseman to jjotto

    Adding to what I said earlier, Harry Reid has not allowed the Senate to vote on hardly anything, to avoid letting the GOP bring up amendments that would pin down how individual Dem Senators voted.

    That would end. As individual spending bills went through both the House and the Senate, Democrats would be forced to vote on many issues that they currently don’t want to vote on, putting them on the record as opposing issues that their constituents favor, or forcing them to align with their constituents.

    This, alone, would illustrate the tremendous shift to the far left that the Democrat leadership, including most of its Senators, has undergone over the past decade or so. It’s my belief that the Democratic leadership is so far to the left of the average American that the party won’t survive such exposure unless it modifies many of its current stances.

  • Question for Boehner: Will you use the power of the purse to stop Obama’s executive power grabs?

    07/20/2014 8:27:29 AM PDT · 34 of 55
    Norseman to jjotto

    >>I believe almost all department funding is written into law for multiple years. <<

    No, Each year budgets are supposed to be presented and voted upon by both the Senate and the House. Some funding might be built in via directed taxes like the highway fund, for instance, but even that is usually spent as directed by annual budgets.

    The problem is political. The reason we keep having Continuing Resolutions (CR) is that the Senate won’t take up individual spending bills. Unless they see a CR they like, i.e., one that continues current spending levels which were dramatically raised to get through the 2009 recession, they just shut down the government, knowing that the MSM and Obama will succeed in blaming the GOP for the shutdown.

    Boehner does understand this, which is why he went for the sequester deal. Obama didn’t believe the GOP would stomach the military cuts included in the sequester, but he was outfoxed by the GOP and as a result he’s now taking credit for an improving budget, due to the sequester actually being implemented (against his wishes.) Such is politics.

    But, if the Senate goes GOP the game changes dramatically. Then, individual departmental budgets can be passed, and within those departmental budgets, individual line items can be budgeted. Furthermore, the GOP can determine the order the departmental budgets are taken up and can even leave some line items for later.

    For example, the budget for the Treasury Department could be taken up, but the IRS line items within Treasury could be left for later, except for essential tax collection efforts. The enforcement budget, which has been severely abused, could be left for later, and possibly severely curtailed, i.e., no more bonuses, and a lot of jobs curtailed. In other words, the GOP could use the budget to punish misbehavior, and encourage good behavior.

    One obvious benefit of going line by line is that a lot of programs would be trashed since a GOP-led Congress wouldn’t fund them at all. Hopefully the federal Department of Education would be one of them. The power of the purse will only really come into play if the GOP takes the Senate, but then it could prove extremely useful, and powerful.

    Of course, the wrinkle here is that Obama could just veto everything. But if he did the MSM would have a harder time painting the GOP as the reason the government is shut down, especially if they send him budgets for uncontroversial, and/or essential departments, and line items within those departments, first.

    As an example of this, fund the forest service fire prevention services at normal levels. Let Obama take the heat for vetoing it as the west burns. The only reason there’d be no funding is because of his veto. Furthermore, Congress would almost certainly override such a veto, especially if fires were burning.

    Incidentally, way, way, way, down the list would be funding for Valerie Jarrett’s secret service detail, or any other perks of her office.

  • Cochran up big in general, McDaniel supporters still mad

    07/19/2014 2:35:17 PM PDT · 45 of 56
    Norseman to duffee

    One interesting thing that came out of the recent press conference, but didn’t seem to receive much attention, was where they said that it’s possible that the fraud in the original Jun 3rd primary kept McDaniel from winning outright.

    I’m assuming that would have to be in the absentee ballot count somehow, since they didn’t have the issue of ineligible Dems voting in that one.

    I agree with you that McDaniel should continue to press his case, as long as he’s convinced he has one.

    I’m also not surprised to see the high support for Cochran from blacks, given that they’ve just been deluged with ads and encouragement to vote for him. I doubt they’ll be getting that same advice for the general election though.

    And finally, what do you want to bet that the farm animals that Cochran admitted to playing with get upgraded from chickens to goats, cows and horses once he’s running against Childers.

    What’s the scoop on the Reform Party candidate? Is he a viable option?

  • IRS gives full account of lost Lerner emails

    07/19/2014 2:15:58 PM PDT · 74 of 91
    Norseman to Chewbarkah

    From the article: “An IT specialist who had been there since 2007 and received regular IT technical training, inspected the laptop and “determined that the hard drive on the laptop was not operating properly.”
    The specialist tried to recover data but “all of the … efforts to recover any data were unsuccessful.”

    That’s what the person who filed the report with the court said, under oath.

    So the next step is to call in that IT specialist who had been there since 2007,” put him under oath and see if his testimony is consistent. He should, for example have an insight as to whether the drive had crashed, or was just wiped clean before he got it. Put him under oath and let’s see exactly what he found when he got his hands on the drive. Who knows? He might even admit under oath that he did the erasing himself. After all, someone did a pretty good job on it somewhere.

  • GOP Leader Rand Paul Visits Silicon Valley

    07/19/2014 9:51:54 AM PDT · 12 of 13
    Norseman to Foundahardheadedwoman

    I think people are going to be surprised at Senator Paul’s effectiveness in gaining votes from unexpected places, while at the same time sticking to conservative principles.

    I also think he will do quite well in the upcoming Presidential race and could end up being the GOP’s nominee in the end.

  • The Barbour Machine’s Mississippi Ad War

    07/18/2014 9:56:04 AM PDT · 18 of 33
    Norseman to El Zoro

    Kamikazi’s only get one chance El Zoro...*s*

  • Supreme Court rules McDaniel will not have access to poll books

    07/17/2014 1:16:10 PM PDT · 65 of 93
    Norseman to Lurking Libertarian

    >>This is a final decision of the Mississippi Supreme Court.<<

    Thanks. Apparently this part of it is over then.

  • Supreme Court rules McDaniel will not have access to poll books

    07/17/2014 1:12:44 PM PDT · 61 of 93
    Norseman to Sybeck1

    So Charles Johnson says to relax, that it’s not over.

    Apparently of the nine judges, two didn’t participate and three didn’t rule either way, so four of them must have found against McDaniel, although I suppose of those voting it could have gone 3-1. The three who didn’t rule either way requested further information, so maybe it’s not over yet.

    If some of you remember the poll book page that was illustrated after the election, verifying identity can be done because each voter had a unique number/bar code assigned to him or her. So redacting SS#, birthdate, phone #, and age shouldn’t be an issue. However, if they can charge for redacting, that is an issue.

  • Press Conference: We Found A Lot! This Is Much Bigger Than MS

    07/17/2014 10:33:14 AM PDT · 17 of 18
    Norseman to Cboldt

    >>One point stated but not emphasized was that McDaniel’s lawyers think McDaniel won the primary outright (got over 50% of the valid ballots), rendering the runoff election unnecessary.<<

    That would be huge, if they can make the case, although having a GOP Senate primary overturned for voter fraud would be a bit ironic since most of us tend to believe that it’s the Dems that perpetrate most of the election fraud.

    It needs to be rooted out, regardless. Maybe purple fingers?

  • Are Black Voters Turning Against Obama?

    07/17/2014 10:22:24 AM PDT · 47 of 72
    Norseman to mrsmel

    Maybe many of them are actually “pizzed” that they still live in deplorable conditions even after they’d helped elect someone who they thought would help them change those conditions?

    Rand Paul understands this, and if he runs for President he will get a lot more votes from black Americans than anyone expects because he’s one of a very few Republican leaders who is making any attempt at all to engage them.

  • House GOP Slashes IRS Tax Enforcement Budget

    07/15/2014 1:01:26 PM PDT · 17 of 18
    Norseman to el_texicano

    >>Now let’s strip the EPA of every dime that dept has. Then they can defund the dept of Eduction<<

    The Education Department would probably be nearly dead last on my list of funding priorities as well, the entire department. Just zero it out and return control of education completely to the 50 state governments. Get the feds out of education.

    And that would be possible with department-by-department funding bills. Just don’t pass a Dept of Ed budget at all.

    As for the EPA, they probably (?) do have some essential functions, although I suspect most of those deemed truly essential could be diverted back to the 50 states as well. To the extent that they perform an essential nationwide service (and limiting the types of toilets or light bulbs or gas cans that can be produced are not among these, by the way), those essential services could be funded as line items in a much-reduced EPA budget. To the extent they were truly essential, the President and/or the Congressional Dems would be under extreme pressure to approve them. The rest of the EPA’s present functions just wouldn’t be funded.

    I think this would work, but I’d appreciate it if others would critique it or offer possible elaborations. It’s germane to the IRS cutback in the article under discussion, but I think they should have gone after it in a different manner, i.e., by breaking the entire IRS budget out of the overall federal budget and then going after the line items that are being abused, rather than the tax collection effort itself.

    Frankly, the 25% reduction effort looks like publicity seeking, rather than an honest effort to rein in the IRS.

  • House GOP Slashes IRS Tax Enforcement Budget

    07/15/2014 10:08:26 AM PDT · 8 of 18
    Norseman to Star Traveler

    >>That’s exactly the move I suggested a while back. <<

    I’d appreciate a discussion on how to go about using the power of the purse if the GOP takes the Senate in November, because I think that’s the biggest leverage the GOP has over President Obama.

    For example, I’ve suggested breaking the omnibus spending bills (and Continuing Resolutions) up into departmental budgets and passing them separately. And beyond that, perhaps breaking out essential functions of the departments and passing budgets for those items first.

    If the President tries to veto, for example, a continuation of Social Security payments, or interest payments on the debt, or military salaries, he will (I hope) be pilloried for such vetoes. And if he does veto them, what are the chances that Congressional Dems up for re-election in 2016 will support him and vote to uphold those vetoes?

    Going at it in that way should establish a pattern of Obama vetoing followed by Dem override votes that might just break the logjam. Plus, that approach has the benefit of putting the low priority items (the Dept of Education comes to mind) at the end of the process, where they might never be funded at all by the GOP.

    The power of the purse is huge, if the GOP can figure out how best to use it. One thing I’m sure of, these huge multi-departmental funding bills won’t do the job.

  • Cochran/McDaniel Update

    07/03/2014 3:30:22 PM PDT · 35 of 35
    Norseman to Political Junkie Too

    >>Even though they know now that many of the votes are illegal because they have the poll books now, they will still count the illegal votes and report them for certification to the state.<<

    Yes, they have to report those votes as part of the count because, technically, they don’t know who they were cast for, McDaniel or Cochran, just that they were illegally cast.

    Given what’s happened though, if they can come up with about 7,000 illegal voters, that should give a judge enough evidence that the election was tainted, and that the result cannot be trusted.

  • Cochran/McDaniel Update

    07/03/2014 3:25:47 PM PDT · 34 of 35
    Norseman to Dr. Sivana

    >>The sheet with the three voters in the Dem party has been brought up (with a picture of the same sheet, I believe) in several other threads. <<

    I don’t think so. The sheet I believe you’re referring to is the one posted the day after the primary that showed three “illegal” votes, i.e., three voters who had “voted” written in both columns, Jan 3rd and Jan 24th.

    If you look at the link I posted, the AP picture there is different. It has three instances where the “voted” in the Jan 3rd column is crossed out and initialed, and then “voted” written in the Jan 24th column. Mr. Perry, pictured, claims that those were mistakes made by the poll worker that were caught and corrected.

    I’m wondering if that one has been discussed anywhere. I missed it if it has. It’s really quite interesting.

  • Cochran/McDaniel Update

    07/03/2014 10:09:33 AM PDT · 25 of 35
    Norseman to Dr. Sivana

    Take a look at the picture on this site: http://watchdog.org/157606/senate-primary-race/

    Has that AP picture been posted anywhere here on FR? If so, I’d like to see the discussion about it. If not, it should be discussed in its own thread, as it’s very interesting. Today is the first time I’ve seen this one, with the three votes crossed off the June 3rd column.

  • Mississippi Churning

    07/01/2014 8:38:56 PM PDT · 37 of 39
    Norseman to Shery

    A decent article, but wow, did you try to read some of the comments? What a bunch of looney tunes...unreadable

  • Childers, Cochran in Dead Heat Among GOP Voters in Chism Poll

    07/01/2014 1:20:11 PM PDT · 31 of 46
    Norseman to deport

    That’s why I added the qualifying remark. Someone else stated that would be the case if Cochran was removed. McDaniel would automatically take his spot.

    Whether it’s true or not, I’m not sure. As you said, perhaps someone in MS familiar with their laws can clear it up?

  • That giant sucking sound: conservatives fleeing the GOP's "Big Tent"

    07/01/2014 1:14:56 PM PDT · 39 of 65
    Norseman to Blood of Tyrants

    >>When the tent gets so big that it overlaps the Rat tent, it’s time to leave.<<

    I disagree. When the leaders act like they’re in the other tent, it’s time to pick new leaders. The tea party movement is pulling the GOP back toward traditional American values like fiscal responsibility and limited government, but some of the leaders are resisting.

    The solution is to dump the leadership, not the party. Cantor was a start, and a darned good one at that. What you’re seeing now are the actions of a very scared few, desperate to maintain control, but they’re losing.

    Recognize the successes thus far and soldier on. Mississippi was a very costly battle for the leadership, and they probably haven’t paid the full price yet.

  • Childers, Cochran in Dead Heat Among GOP Voters in Chism Poll

    07/01/2014 1:06:12 PM PDT · 29 of 46
    Norseman to demshateGod

    Sorry, I thought I was posting that to a different thread. I see I’ve repeated myself...

  • Childers, Cochran in Dead Heat Among GOP Voters in Chism Poll

    07/01/2014 1:05:06 PM PDT · 28 of 46
    Norseman to demshateGod

    When that pollster calls, tell him you’re a conservative and voting for Childers, regardless what you actually intend to do come November.

    If all McDaniel voters do that, Childers will take a convincing lead in the polls, and the GOPe might decide to dump Cochran. At the very least it would scare the hell out of them.

  • Childers, Cochran in Dead Heat Among GOP Voters in Chism Poll

    07/01/2014 1:00:17 PM PDT · 27 of 46
    Norseman to nickcarraway

    A suggestion for MS conservatives who voted for McDaniel.

    Regardless of your actual intent in November, if a pollster calls you, identify yourself as a conservative and tell them you’re voting for Childers.

    If most of you take this simple action when called, Childers will move well ahead in the polls. That will scare the bejeezus out of the powers that be in the GOP and maybe they’ll come to their senses and get Cochran to withdraw from the race. And if he does, McDaniel becomes the candidate on the ballot in November, as I understand it.

    Do this even if your actual intention is to sit home in November, or to hold your nose and vote for Cochran. It can’t hurt, and might make a difference in the near term. Besides, misleading a pollster can be fun.

  • Pastor Charges Cochran Campaign With Illegally Paying For Black Votes (First Mainstream Coverage)

    07/01/2014 11:52:04 AM PDT · 49 of 78
    Norseman to Viennacon

    >>To be clear, if Cochran is disqualified for this, under Mississippi law, McDaniel becomes the nominee automatically.<<

    That’s interesting information. I hope the McDaniel’s campaign has the resources to see that this matter is taken up by the courts sooner, rather than later.

    Or if not the courts, does the MS law specify who would make the determination as to whether or not Cochran should be disqualified?

  • Pastor Charges Cochran Campaign With Illegally Paying For Black Votes (First Mainstream Coverage)

    07/01/2014 10:51:43 AM PDT · 32 of 78
    Norseman to duffee

    I’d let him off with just five tears if he’d vacate....*s*

  • Pastor Charges Cochran Campaign With Illegally Paying For Black Votes (First Mainstream Coverage)

    07/01/2014 10:47:38 AM PDT · 30 of 78
    Norseman to Ray76

    Maybe that would help, but more likely if the story is true is will eventually “get legs” as others dig into it too.

    In a couple of days we’re either going to be reading stories about how badly we were conned, or stories elaborating on the vote buying if the digging results in more evidence.

    One thing’s sure, if the Tea Party/GOPe roles were reversed, the mainstream press would already be sending planeloads of reporters to MS by now. In fact, the Forbes article is even by a guy who reports from the Left, per the note accompanying his story.

  • Pastor Charges Cochran Campaign With Illegally Paying For Black Votes (First Mainstream Coverage)

    07/01/2014 10:30:51 AM PDT · 20 of 78
    Norseman to deport

    they’ve been doing this for years and no one goes to jail. Eventually, maybe they figure no one ever will?

    Plus, they’ve got the DOJ on their side, and our President carrying the ball. What could go wrong?

    Sadly, probably nothing.

  • Pastor Charges Cochran Campaign With Illegally Paying For Black Votes (First Mainstream Coverage)

    07/01/2014 10:26:01 AM PDT · 16 of 78
    Norseman to Ray76

    I don’t care if he was paid if his story is true.

    I think the reason Drudge, and others, are slow to pick this up is because it’s all sourced to one reporter with a new website, and to one pastor providing the “evidence.” Plus there’s the issue of payment.

    And who knows, maybe we’re all being taken for a ride?

    We’ll know soon though, and I’m betting this works out well for McDaniel’s chances, not Cochran’s.

  • John McCain: Cochran's Tactics against Tea Party in MS Worth Emulating

    06/30/2014 9:33:08 PM PDT · 106 of 106
    Norseman to Black Agnes

    I posted my last reply before I found out about the brewing vote-buying scandal.

    I’d say McDaniel’s prospects have suddenly improved if he takes the entire matter to court. The prospect of Cochran conceding “graciously” have also increased, I suspect.

  • John McCain: Cochran's Tactics against Tea Party in MS Worth Emulating

    06/30/2014 9:33:08 PM PDT · 105 of 106
    Norseman to Black Agnes

    I posted my last reply before I found out about the brewing vote-buying scandal.

    I’d say McDaniel’s prospects have suddenly improved if he takes the entire matter to court. The prospect of Cochran conceding “graciously” have also increased, I suspect.

  • John McCain: Cochran's Tactics against Tea Party in MS Worth Emulating

    06/30/2014 8:34:29 PM PDT · 102 of 106
    Norseman to Jack Black

    If I were in MS, I’d be watching the polls for other Senate races going into November and if it looked like Cochran wasn’t going to be needed for a 51 seat majority, I’d certainly consider voting for Childers, for all the reasons you stated, and I’d be hoping he won so as to send a huge message to the Haley Barbour’s of the GOPe.

    But if the Senate majority is up for grabs and it could depend on Cochran holding his seat, then I’d hope that McDaniel’s voters would hold their noses and vote for Cochran, or else just stay home. Otherwise, you’d risk letting Haley Barbour cause you to let Harry Reid stay in charge for another two years. That price is way too high to pay for the satisfaction of sending a message.

    Hopefully, McDaniels will find enough double voters to get a judge to order a remedy. It would be a hoot to see the judge haul a few of the Republicans who coordinated the effort into court and threaten them all with jail time unless they could convince Cochran to concede. After all, under MS law, voting in the GOP primary when you intend to vote Dem in November is technically illegal, so those operatives were encouraging massive illegality that goes beyond the clearly-illegal double voting issue.

  • John McCain: Cochran's Tactics against Tea Party in MS Worth Emulating

    06/30/2014 8:08:30 PM PDT · 99 of 106
    Norseman to Din Maker

    Yes, they voted illegally, but they probably weren’t all black, and the idea came from a few lily-white GOPe operatives. We need to focus on the real problem, and it’s not black voters, it’s the operatives in our own party who directed the effort, and no doubt couldn’t care less if a significant number of the people they were encouraging to vote were doing so illegally. That’s who needs the comeuppance, not black voters many of whom were probably innocent dupes in the matter.

    At least that’s how I see it.

  • John McCain: Cochran's Tactics against Tea Party in MS Worth Emulating

    06/30/2014 3:00:02 PM PDT · 95 of 106
    Norseman to so_real

    I haven’t given up hope on the McDaniel campaign just yet. 1500 double votes is a lot to find in one county, even though it’s one of the more populated counties.

  • John McCain: Cochran's Tactics against Tea Party in MS Worth Emulating

    06/30/2014 2:56:28 PM PDT · 94 of 106
    Norseman to Jack Black

    I think we lose sight of the fact that the GOPe is a token amount of individuals who’ve attained power and who are using it to enrich themselves and their friends.

    The key is to eject this small group from power, not to splinter a major party into two ineffectual parties that can then be outvoted by Democrats. The process is well underway, and as the Cochran race is showing, it’s a necessary process.

    But leaving in the middle of the battle to form a third party won’t accomplish the desired result, unless all one desires is to get even at all costs, and I do mean all costs, because if too many do so, it will cost the country dearly.

  • John McCain: Cochran's Tactics against Tea Party in MS Worth Emulating

    06/30/2014 1:56:38 PM PDT · 87 of 106
    Norseman to Kenny

    McDaniel’s people are reporting that after finishing Hinds County, they have 1,500 instances of double voting. The encouraging thing is that they’re now calling them “invalid double votes” rather than the earlier “irregularities” I believe it was.

    Also, they don’t think they have to gather enough to overcome the Cochran lead if they can also show that other illegal activity occurred on the Cochran side, such as paying for votes, etc.

    http://dailycaller.com/2014/06/30/mcdaniel-unveils-another-strategy-against-thad-cochran/

    They also think there’s a possibility of making some headway when they get to the absentee ballots, where they think “a lot of the effort was concentrated.”

    I don’t think this thing is over yet. Tellingly, county court clerks in many counties are making life difficult for them, suggesting the Cochran campaign is concerned.

  • BREAKING! There May Be Enough Invalidated Votes to Overturn Cochran Victory

    06/26/2014 8:00:51 PM PDT · 432 of 504
    Norseman to Cboldt

    Then there’s the possibility that they’re still counting invalid votes in Hinds County....or have they stated that they’ve completed the count?

  • BREAKING! There May Be Enough Invalidated Votes to Overturn Cochran Victory

    06/26/2014 6:38:52 PM PDT · 398 of 504
    Norseman to House Atreides

    Here’s an interesting line from the original article: “In Hinds County, poll workers used the Democratic primary books for the GOP runoff in an attempt to prevent crossover voters.”

    Given what we’ve discussed thus far, that would make sense. If the Democrat Poll Workers book contains ALL registered voters names, AND lists all voters who voted Democrat on June 3rd, the poll workers would just be instructed to turn away any voter on the list who had voted on June 3rd (because they’d voted in the DEM primary). All the outrage at the photo makes sense and clearly the poll workers didn’t do their jobs, at least in those cases.

    And now the story’s been updated to state that McDaniel’s people have already found 800 votes in Hinds Co that were cast illegally.