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Lucca's Roman past revealed
ANSA ^ | March 30 2006

Posted on 03/30/2006 9:34:39 AM PST by SunkenCiv

Archaeologists have unearthed evidence of a Roman presence long before the traditonal date of Roman settlement in 180 BCE - corroborating Roman historian Livy's account of the great Carthaginian general Hannibal passing through Lucca in 217 BCE... The discovery came after other finds last year which highlighted how Lucca thrived because of its strategic position on the main road that led towards Gaul. Among the treasures turned up were the remains of a well-preserved 2nd-century BC Roman house. Other digs have traced Lucca's beginnings under the Etruscans, a people who once ruled much of central Italy including Rome. Lucca's foundation by the Etruscans became official last March when experts found... a ceremonial goblet dating to the VI century BC... It has long been known that there were Etruscan settlements around the famous walled city but this was the first time an Etruscan object had been found at its heart.

(Excerpt) Read more at ansa.it ...


TOPICS: History; Science; Travel
KEYWORDS: anatolia; etruscans; godsgravesglyphs; hannibal; italy; lucca; roman; romanempire
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1 posted on 03/30/2006 9:34:41 AM PST by SunkenCiv
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To: blam; FairOpinion; Ernest_at_the_Beach; StayAt HomeMother; 24Karet; 3AngelaD; asp1; ...
To all -- please ping me to other topics which are appropriate for the GGG list. Thanks.
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2 posted on 03/30/2006 9:34:58 AM PST by SunkenCiv (Yes indeed, Civ updated his profile and links pages again, on Monday, March 6, 2006.)
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To: SunkenCiv
May I get on you ping list?
3 posted on 03/30/2006 9:39:13 AM PST by MNJohnnie (The lame shall walk, the blind shall see, alas the press remains invincible in their ignorance.)
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To: SunkenCiv

Thank you SO much for posting this. I will be traveling to Italy this summer and Lucca is one of the planned stops.


4 posted on 03/30/2006 9:41:11 AM PST by confederacy of dunces (Workin' & lurkin')
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To: SunkenCiv
"Luca Brasi sleeps with the fishes."
5 posted on 03/30/2006 9:47:37 AM PST by colorado tanker (We need more "chicken-bleep Democrats" in the Senate!)
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To: SunkenCiv
Couldn't help but notice the references to "BCE". "Before Current Era" is what atheists use instead of "Before Christ".
6 posted on 03/30/2006 9:50:01 AM PST by Gay State Conservative
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To: confederacy of dunces
Thank you SO much for posting this. I will be traveling to Italy this summer and Lucca is one of the planned stops.

If you're going to be in southern Italy,don't miss Pompeii...or Capri.They're both fairly close to Naples.

Also note,southern Italy in the summer is hot,hot,HOT!

And humid!

7 posted on 03/30/2006 9:52:47 AM PST by Gay State Conservative
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To: Gay State Conservative

It's what they use in CA universities and colleges now, too. If you do not, your paper is downgraded.

To confederacy - lucky you!


8 posted on 03/30/2006 9:53:21 AM PST by BlessedByLiberty (Respectfully submitted,)
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To: BlessedByLiberty
It's what they use in CA universities and colleges now, too.

Sounds like a First Amendment issue to me,particularly if you're talking State universities.All must be free to use either "BC" or "BCE".

I wonder if the ACLU would take the case?

9 posted on 03/30/2006 9:56:44 AM PST by Gay State Conservative
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To: colorado tanker

My pleasure, have a great time, and (ahem) don't forget to post digital photos of any GGG stuff you encounter. ;')

some sidebars:

I've heard that the Sistine Chapel is closed on Mondays (must be they have to dust).

Michelangelo's "Doni tondo" (The Holy Family with the infant St. John the Baptist) can be seen at the Uffizi in Florence, and may be a good prelude to seeing the ceiling (if you are going to do that).

Luna, Italy:
http://archaeology.about.com/od/lterms/g/luna.htm

"in Gubbio, Italy, Dr. Walter L. Alvarez discovered a thin clay layer with an unusually high concentration of iridium. This layer was found at the Cretaceous-Tertiary (K-T) Boundary."


10 posted on 03/30/2006 10:01:18 AM PST by SunkenCiv (Yes indeed, Civ updated his profile and links pages again, on Monday, March 6, 2006.)
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To: MNJohnnie

You're on. :')


11 posted on 03/30/2006 10:02:00 AM PST by SunkenCiv (Yes indeed, Civ updated his profile and links pages again, on Monday, March 6, 2006.)
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To: Gay State Conservative; BlessedByLiberty; SunkenCiv

We were in Naples a couple of years ago. In February! It was lovely. Didn't get to Pompeii, because we had spent ten days in Rome and I overdrew my husband's patience by spending too much time looking at what he refers to as "rubble". Next time for sure.

This trip will be Pisa, Cortuna, Bologna and Lucca. Can't wait!


12 posted on 03/30/2006 10:42:45 AM PST by confederacy of dunces (Workin' & lurkin')
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To: confederacy of dunces

LOL! Your husband's "rubble" comment reminds me of my sister's visit to Rome. After three days in the city, he told her he was tired of "looking at all this old stuff."


13 posted on 03/30/2006 10:47:08 AM PST by BlessedByLiberty (Respectfully submitted,)
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To: BlessedByLiberty

Hah!

To be fair, I'm a tireless "rubble" explorer. I'm sure it drives most people nuts.


14 posted on 03/30/2006 10:52:33 AM PST by confederacy of dunces (Workin' & lurkin')
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To: SunkenCiv

Oh Civ, that was neat referring back to where the GGG name came from. Thanx!

I'm currently reading a 'narrative' history of Britain, and have just gone thru the Roman period. Your thread makes me want a good 'narrative' history of the roman empire. (I can only read good stories...if it's tooo dry I fall asleep! ;) Anyone have suggestions?


15 posted on 03/30/2006 6:58:34 PM PST by Chani (Life is fatal. The 100% statistic is compelling.)
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To: Chani

Tough call. I've enjoyed a couple, that I'll have to post to you later, because A) I'm at work, and B) I'm drawing a blank. :')


16 posted on 03/30/2006 6:59:31 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Yes indeed, Civ updated his profile and links pages again, on Monday, March 6, 2006.)
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To: Chani

Have you read Colleen McCullough's series?


17 posted on 03/30/2006 7:22:22 PM PST by elli1
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To: elli1

No I haven't but I'll check the name out thanx!


18 posted on 03/30/2006 7:30:07 PM PST by Chani (Life is fatal. The 100% statistic is compelling.)
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To: confederacy of dunces; colorado tanker

Whoops. Somehow I replied to the wrong FReeper. Sorry.

Confederacy of Dunces, please see my original reply:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/1606221/posts?page=10#10


19 posted on 03/30/2006 9:35:08 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Yes indeed, Civ updated his profile and links pages again, on Monday, March 6, 2006.)
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To: Chani
Thanks BTW for the kind remarks. Here are some titles I recommend:
Romans and Barbarians: Four Views from the Empires Edge, 1st Century AD At Empires Edge The Jews in the Roman World
Romans and Barbarians:
Four Views from the Empire's Edge,
1st Century AD

by Derek Williams
At Empire's Edge:
Exploring Rome's
Egyptian Frontier

by Robert B. Jackson
The Jews in the Roman World
by Michael Grant

another edition

20 posted on 03/30/2006 9:45:18 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Yes indeed, Civ updated his profile and links pages again, on Monday, March 6, 2006.)
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